sfc1976 Posted 15 July, 2016 Share Posted 15 July, 2016 Islam certainly makes great claims of itself. It states that it is the last and final religion, and provides a 'total' solution for every aspect of your life. As the late Christopher Hitchins said, because of this it 'cannot bend it can only break' so tends to react with violence when threatened. When this is combined with the standard lethal monotheistic notion of a perfect human being and a perfect book you simply cannot have a peaceful outcome. To remove religion from the scale of global terrorist violence we see today is naivety bordering on stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100% Saint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 The so called Islamic State manipulate small parts of the Qur'an & Islamic teachings to use as an excuse to needlessly kill & to try and 'rule the world'. Most religions could be used & manipulated to try and justify their barbaric actions. ISIS have bombed mosques on many occasions & many of their members are as much as a devout Muslim as you or me, with very few following the teachings & traditions like simple things such as not drinking or even eating meat that isn't halah. They should take religion out of the matter, as they just use & abuse the teachings of Islam, something that Muslims around the world, are feeling the brunt of with the huge blacklash which has been wrongly brought upon many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 (edited) Anyone who thinks an entire religion of 1.6 billion people worldwide is to blame for the actions of the 1% of Extremist Muslims who distort the peaceful worlds of Islam is a f@cking moron as far as I'm concerned. Are the IRA representative of all Christians/Catholics? Are the KKK? No, didn't think so. Don't be such f@cking close-minded idiots, Islam is a peaceful religion. It's this f@cking ignorant EDL/BNP/UKIP rhetoric that caused people to vote to leave the EU and all the hate-crimes that have gone with it. Lies, deceit and Islamophobia. Edited 16 July, 2016 by BlakeySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Anyone who thinks an entire religion of 1.6 billion people worldwide is to blame for the actions of the 1% of Extremist Muslims who distort the peaceful worlds of Islam is a f@cking moron as far as I'm concerned. Are the IRA representative of all Christians/Catholics? Are the KKK? No, didn't think so. Don't be such f@cking close-minded idiots, Islam is a peaceful religion. It's this f@cking ignorant EDL/BNP/UKIP rhetoric that caused people to vote to leave the EU and all the hate-crimes that have gone with it. Lies, deceit and Islamophobia. Islam is a peaceful religion. Apart from issues like equal rights for women, blasphemy and equal right for gays. At best, those people should be locked up, at worst, beheaded! As said on another page, this is pretty universal and the average Muslim makes Le Pen look like Jeremy Corbyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Islam is a peaceful religion. Apart from issues like equal rights for women, blasphemy and equal right for gays. At best, those people should be locked up, at worst, beheaded! As said on another page, this is pretty universal and the average Muslim makes Le Pen look like Jeremy Corbyn You mean like protestant England 60 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Islam is a peaceful religion. Apart from issues like equal rights for women, blasphemy and equal right for gays. At best, those people should be locked up, at worst, beheaded! As said on another page, this is pretty universal and the average Muslim makes Le Pen look like Jeremy Corbyn I have loads of Muslim acquaintances and not one think like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Re immigration to France , during the days of the French empire , when they took over various countries around the world , all the people of these countries were granted French citizenship. This allowed them to live in France which is why there are large groups from other countries in France . As you know these people have not on the whole done well economically over the years which has led to groups of disaffected people with links to various other countries . Colonialism is also one of the reasons GB is not universally loved around the world as well . There is now emerging a new world order where the west does not dominate the world anymore so life will never be the same (despite UKIP thinking we can return to the good old days) The new borderless europe has turned out to be a bit of a mistake security wise , not sure they would have stopped the Jackal these days ! ( I know it's fiction) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Ah politics. Wouldn't it be better on another part of the forum? Most people seem to think that there are nothing but misguided opinions, so really, this worthy thread is doomed to descend into pointless bickering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 I have loads of Muslim acquaintances and not one think like that. I'm sure they tell you their detailed views on everything http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/04/12/why-the-icm-poll-of-british-muslims-shows-we-need-to-defend-our/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Islam is a peaceful religion. Apart from issues like equal rights for women, blasphemy and equal right for gays. At best, those people should be locked up, at worst, beheaded! As said on another page, this is pretty universal and the average Muslim makes Le Pen look like Jeremy Corbyn I have loads of Muslim acquaintances and not one think like that. These people you know Toadhill Saint are cherrypicking their religion then, which in effect is making up their own religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 These people you know Toadhill Saint are cherrypicking their religion then, which in effect is making up their own religion. How many Muslims do you acquaint with? Have you ever discussed any of this with a Muslim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Anyone who thinks an entire religion of 1.6 billion people worldwide is to blame for the actions of the 1% of Extremist Muslims who distort the peaceful worlds of Islam is a f@cking moron as far as I'm concerned. Are the IRA representative of all Christians/Catholics? Are the KKK? No, didn't think so. Don't be such f@cking close-minded idiots, Islam is a peaceful religion. It's this f@cking ignorant EDL/BNP/UKIP rhetoric that caused people to vote to leave the EU and all the hate-crimes that have gone with it. Lies, deceit and Islamophobia. Well said; and a word for Batman - stick to opinions about Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Well said; and a word for Batman - stick to opinions about Football. Back in the real world.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Back in the real world.......... How were the beans and scrambled eggs this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 How were the beans and scrambled eggs this morning? Probably the best put-down you have produced to date. Don't listen to what others say Give us a 'hashtag' follow up. You are good at those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Probably the best put-down you have produced to date. Don't listen to what others say Give us a 'hashtag' follow up. You are good at those He didn't even call you "pal", that's always his killer phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 My sympathy and condolences for the bereaved and this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Anyone who thinks an entire religion of 1.6 billion people worldwide is to blame for the actions of the 1% of Extremist Muslims who distort the peaceful worlds of Islam is a f@cking moron as far as I'm concerned. Are the IRA representative of all Christians/Catholics? Are the KKK? No, didn't think so. Don't be such f@cking close-minded idiots, Islam is a peaceful religion. It's this f@cking ignorant EDL/BNP/UKIP rhetoric that caused people to vote to leave the EU and all the hate-crimes that have gone with it. Lies, deceit and Islamophobia. Both Islam & Christianity are not remotely peaceful. Followers of those religions cherry pick the bits they like from them and sweep under the carpet the bits they don't like. They are in effect creating their own religion by doing such cherry picking. In Christianity the punishment for breaking a lot of the 10 commandments is to be stoned to death. That is conveniently ignored by most Christians. Islam has similar punishments laid out in scripture, if you choose to ignore it you are cherry picking and creating your own religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 As regards the Club's response perhaps it should be left to Puel. I would hope it would be a traditional 2 minutes silence before the first match . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Both Islam & Christianity are not remotely peaceful. Followers of those religions cherry pick the bits they like from them and sweep under the carpet the bits they don't like. They are in effect creating their own religion by doing such cherry picking. In Christianity the punishment for breaking a lot of the 10 commandments is to be stoned to death. That is conveniently ignored by most Christians. Islam has similar punishments laid out in scripture, if you choose to ignore it you are cherry picking and creating your own religion. Or maybe you are being thick and don't seem to have a clue about Christianity. Keep preaching though brother and no need to feel embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Brown Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Anyone watched the film Life of Brian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Islam is a peaceful religion. Apart from issues like equal rights for women, blasphemy and equal right for gays. At best, those people should be locked up, at worst, beheaded! As said on another page, this is pretty universal and the average Muslim makes Le Pen look like Jeremy Corbyn Didn't realise till today how stupid you are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 July, 2016 Share Posted 16 July, 2016 Didn't realise till today how stupid you are... Christ, you're stupid! :-) Sorry mush, you led with your chin. I couldn't possibly say if i agreed with you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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