1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Kaka is going to Manclechester City for a reported £100,000,000 transfer and £200,000 per week plus a £75,000,000 signing on fee. I don't understand. I just don't understand. How can a footballer be "worth" the same amount as two brand new, fully equiped state of the art hospitals? Sorry folks, but this is perpostrous. The game is rotten. No wonder the United fans god fed up and formed FC United of Manchester. It is a f\/cked up world. Jobs being lost left, right and centre and a footballer is sold for £100 million pounds. Barking mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Agreed, at some point it will all come crashing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I think now is the time for something to be done from the football organisations. How can you have clubs spending £100m on a player when they are something like £800m in debt, if these sugar daddies get bored and bail those clubs will all go bust. Surely the whole point of things such as the FA are to protect the future of the game? It is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 he's lightweight, we wouldn't want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 i dont get why the fuss.. how much would it take to get ronaldo from utd or messi from barcelona...the same as getting kaka from milan.. not as if city are really throwing cash around to be fair considering...they are hardly offering £30m for bellamy at the mo..or £30m for santa cruz... kaka is a one off and is part of a very small group of about 4-5 players that would command such a fee... the game is not rotton...just one club trying to get one player who is easily oneof the very best on the planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 This may get FIFA/EUFA to act and allow clubs to only spend earned income as in Germany/France. Platini is on the case, this will be seen as the straw that broke the camels back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 This may get FIFA/EUFA to act and allow clubs to only spend earned income as in Germany/France. Platini is on the case, this will be seen as the straw that broke the camels back. I doubt it....it would never get past EU law...simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 (edited) i dont get why the fuss.. how much would it take to get ronaldo from utd or messi from barcelona...the same as getting kaka from milan.. not as if city are really throwing cash around to be fair considering...they are hardly offering £30m for bellamy at the mo..or £30m for santa cruz... kaka is a one off and is part of a very small group of about 4-5 players that would command such a fee... the game is not rotton...just one club trying to get one player who is easily oneof the very best on the planet I think you miss the point I am trying to make. In all rational sense Kaka is NOT "worth" more than two brand new hospitals. It doesn't matter a bean whether he is or is not a super-star player or not. £100,000,000 is such an incredible amount of money. This really does bring the whole game into disrepute. And even £30,000,000 is a staggering amount to pay. Christ sake, it is only football. They are not super-men. They are not hospitals. They are not worth it. Edited 16 January, 2009 by 1976_Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I doubt it....it would never get past EU law...simple as that But it could be a condition of playing Association Football - that is in an FA league. It would take a huge jolt to form a parallel institution and league system and I am sure the fans of the Prem clubs would be strongly opposed to leaving the FA league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I think you miss the point I am trying to make. In all rational sense Kaka is NOT "worth" more than two brand new hospitals. It doesn't matter a been whether he is or is not a super-star player or not. £100,000,000 is such an incredible amount of money. This really does bring the whole game into disrepute. And even £30,000,000 is a staggering amount to pay. Christ sake, it is only football. They are not super-men. They are not hospitals. They are not worth it. well in that case...neither is tiger woods, or lewis hamilton or roger federer...we are not talking about city here bring in any old foreigner and paying him over the odds...we are talking about city bringing one of the very best players on the planet in the most popular sport....not as if all of a sudden benjani will get his wages doubled now...this is a one off..and only kaka with 2 or 3 other players would command such a situation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 (edited) I doubt it....it would never get past EU law...simple as that Like I say, already in the rules in France/Germany, Platini and many countries see the finances in the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester Utd, and now Manchester City as an unfair competition. £600m to £800m in debt and technically insolvent but able to finance teams that are better than the opposition in Europe. There is a groundswell to make the English clubs live within their income. This will just speed it up. Platini will surface shortly. Arsene Wenger is already kicking off as he sees his top four place threatened. It would be made a condition of entering the Champions league and Eufa cup. Edited 16 January, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 well in that case...neither is tiger woods, or lewis hamilton or roger federer...we are not talking about city here bring in any old foreigner and paying him over the odds...we are talking about city bringing one of the very best players on the planet in the most popular sport....not as if all of a sudden benjani will get his wages doubled now...this is a one off..and only kaka with 2 or 3 other players would command such a situation.. Except that Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton and Federer are not bought and sold. They earn their money principly through sponsorship deals. If the sponsoring company - Nike in the case of Tiger - does not believe that the player will bring a net income to their companies then they would not enter into the sponsorship deal. And crucially Tiger being paid 100m for a three year deal from Nike does not effect any other golfer whereas paying ludicrous sums to buy players and stupendous wages does have an impact all the way down the game. Perhaps what is needed is a new VAT rate for football transfers. Say 50%. that would put an end to this lunacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 nor Tom Cruise or the spice girls etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Like I say, already in the rules in France/Germany, Platini and many countries see the finances in the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester Utd, and now Manchester City as an unfair competition. £600m to £800m in debt and technically insolvent but able to finance teams that are better than the opposition in Europe. There is a groundswell to make the English clubs live within their income. This will just speed it up. Platini will surface shortly. Arsene Wenger is already kicking off as he sees his top four place threatened. to be fair...the clubs mentioned in serious debt have not a great deal to city buy kaka....:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Forget football for one second - this amount of money for a single individuals services, however good he is, is absolutely f-ing obscene. A fraction of that amount of money could significantly put a dent in the poverty, malnutrition and desease of hundreds of people on the brink of survival around the World, let alone save a large proportion of league clubs in the UK from administration. I believe it is time that the FA levy a tax on ANY club in the Prem down when a transfer fee exceeds a certain amount....say £1m - the tax should then be paid as a dividend to all clubs BELOW THAT DIVISION that demonstrate the best professional traits in the game - i.e. least fouls, sending offs, etc. This would have the double whammy effect of decreasing transfer fees AND cleaning up the modern game and encouraging highly entertaining football for spectators. Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Forget football for one second - this amount of money for a single individuals services, however good he is, is absolutely f-ing obscene. A fraction of that amount of money could significantly put a dent in the poverty, malnutrition and desease of hundreds of people on the brink of survival around the World, let alone save a large proportion of league clubs in the UK from administration. I believe it is time that the FA levy a tax on ANY club in the Prem down when a transfer fee exceeds a certain amount....say £1m - the tax should then be paid as a dividend to all clubs BELOW THAT DIVISION that demonstrate the best professional traits in the game - i.e. least fouls, sending offs, etc. This would have the double whammy effect of decreasing transfer fees AND cleaning up the modern game and encouraging highly entertaining football for spectators. Rant over. spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Except that Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton and Federer are not bought and sold. They earn their money principly through sponsorship deals. If the sponsoring company - Nike in the case of Tiger - does not believe that the player will bring a net income to their companies then they would not enter into the sponsorship deal. And crucially Tiger being paid 100m for a three year deal from Nike does not effect any other golfer whereas paying ludicrous sums to buy players and stupendous wages does have an impact all the way down the game. Perhaps what is needed is a new VAT rate for football transfers. Say 50%. that would put an end to this lunacy so what if he is bought or sold..? it is not our money..infact, it is NEW money coming into football from someones back pocket.. you say 100m to woods does not effect other golfers income..well..what if it does..what if when they pay him 100m the no 2 seed wants something just below that when infact they are way below tiger.. Is it only me that can see that this deal is a one off and would only apply to about 4 players ON THE PLANET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Forget football for one second - this amount of money for a single individuals services, however good he is, is absolutely f-ing obscene. A fraction of that amount of money could significantly put a dent in the poverty, malnutrition and desease of hundreds of people on the brink of survival around the World, let alone save a large proportion of league clubs in the UK from administration. I believe it is time that the FA levy a tax on ANY club in the Prem down when a transfer fee exceeds a certain amount....say £1m - the tax should then be paid as a dividend to all clubs BELOW THAT DIVISION that demonstrate the best professional traits in the game - i.e. least fouls, sending offs, etc. This would have the double whammy effect of decreasing transfer fees AND cleaning up the modern game and encouraging highly entertaining football for spectators. Rant over. the amount footballers have got could have put a dent into poverty 10 years ago.... personally, I think in such uncertain times..we should be greatful that city are going to be bringing on alot of NEW money into the english game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Let the City fans have their glory. It won't last and if the owners pull out in the next few years, they'll be bankrupt quicker than John Prescott can eat a burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 i dont get why the fuss.. how much would it take to get ronaldo from utd or messi from barcelona...the same as getting kaka from milan.. not as if city are really throwing cash around to be fair considering...they are hardly offering £30m for bellamy at the mo..or £30m for santa cruz... kaka is a one off and is part of a very small group of about 4-5 players that would command such a fee... the game is not rotton...just one club trying to get one player who is easily oneof the very best on the planet In my opinion it is about the message rather then the money. Each of these clubs are only doing what they are doing because they have someone with a lot of cash able to do it. That money has not come from within the clubs, has not been made in the clubs. It sends out the message that if your not a super rich club with some guy with billions of pounds behind you then you won't get anywhere. It means the leagues become harder and harder for teams to win that don't have that sort of backing. And the worst factor of all is that it could mean the rise of football ticket prices. At a time where people have less money to spend. Any business person knows that every boom has a bust and football brings itself nearer to it everytime things like this happens. As Wenger says how can you have inflated prices in a deflation period? Look at F1. The two are very different but they have a similar situation. The cost of being in F1 goes up so teams who don't have much money eventually get pushed out. You have your main teams Mclaren,Ferarri,Renault. The rest of the teams know that breaking into those top ranks means they have to spend more and more money and even then that doesn't gurantee you will. F1 had its mega bucks days and now it is in decline. Bernie and the people at F1 are trying hard to bring the costs of running in F1 down and make it more competative, more equal. Naturally the big teams don't like that but that is what has to be done, why? because it is all about the spectators. People don't want to watch the same team win week after week with the also rans struggling to make up the numbers. Football has to follow suit or it will just go the same way as F1. People will grow tired of having to pay so much to watch a team get beat by so much. But the clubs have no choice but to charge that because they need the money to try and keep up. That in turn makes the spectacle of it worth less. If you allow a club to pay £100m for a player then it is just a matter of time before it turns to £200m, then £300m. As i mentioned the only reason they are paying that money is because they have 1 guy who has that money, not because the club has the money or has earnt that money. Kaka is a quality player but the message is simple. Who has the most money wins. Football should not be about money in that way. That is why i think they need to bring in the salary cap now. Football has a dark future ahead and it has been a longtime coming. Eventually one of these guys will walk from these clubs. Because they either got bored or died or something, then what happens? Who will foot the massive bills left behind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I see what you mean stmarco...but do you not think that the new money city will bring to the rnglish game that will in one way or another benefit us is a good thing in this current climate... people have been saying these rich people will walk for ages...have not seen a club implode as yet...infact, we have imploded and we are a fecking PLC... also, still waiting for SISU to fold like the predicitions too... you say about teams getting beat by so much..etc...but that has always been the case in the last 15 years or so...not seen that many maulings etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 It is rediculous, but it will be great watching City knock one of the usual 4 out of the Champions League spots. Would be great to see Arsenal, Liverpool or especially Man U go tits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 the amount footballers have got could have put a dent into poverty 10 years ago.... personally, I think in such uncertain times..we should be greatful that city are going to be bringing on alot of NEW money into the english game How are they bringing new money into the English game? The £100 million or whatever it is is going to Milan, with a significant amount to Kaka and his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 How are they bringing new money into the English game? The £100 million or whatever it is is going to Milan, with a significant amount to Kaka and his father. I may have missed it...but I think they will/are going to be bidding for players in this country too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 (edited) This situation is the very core of the problem facing 'so called' English football. The devide between the big and the pretenders is so huge it is, in most cases, insurmountable. It is all that is wrong with our game - the playing field is tilted totally towards the 'money man' that the game is being ripped away from fans. Accepted - it is only a game - however as somebody rightly pointed out, when a 'windbag kicker' (no matter how good he be) costs more than a bloody hospital, and gets paid in a week what a nurse will never earn in a lifetime - then something is horrendously wrong. As for the FA - they probably care very little - they get their chunk of the money - the bigger to whole - the larger the slice. We have very little scrupples left in this country when it comes to money in football - you don't have to look very far to see that. For me the sooner that some authoritive body step in the better. Yes we have the best league in the world. But while other countries play largely home grown talent - we do nothing of the sort - 'our' game should be branded as the 'European Premier League'. Let's face it most of the talent is not English. How on earth do we provide both teams for the European Champions League Final but fail to qualify for the European Championships as a Nation - flooded with continental (nay, global) talent (costing mega bucks) which is slowly sucking the life blood out of English football. When last did England (or any home nation for that matter) win anything - when did we even get close? The sooner the bubble bursts - the better - we can all make a fresh start on an even playing field and bring some fans back to 'our' once great game. Edited 16 January, 2009 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I may have missed it...but I think they will/are going to be bidding for players in this country too... They have - but the money they paid for Bridge pales into insignificance in respect to this latest deal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 They have - but the money they paid for Bridge pales into insignificance in respect to this latest deal.... indeed..but they will get other prem players no doubt..which will be new money going around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 They have - but the money they paid for Bridge pales into insignificance in respect to this latest deal.... And that was just an Arab giving money to a Russian - it doesn't benefit England or the game at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I doubt it....it would never get past EU law...simple as that In what way won't it get past EU law? If France and Germany (members of the EU) can have caps, then why can't the UK? Actually, it could be that France and Germany use EU law to challenge the UK system - unfair competition and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 With Man City sitting in 20th place in the Premier League table and only 2 points above the relegation zone it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Kaka might be playing his football in the CCC next season . :smt044:smt044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 In what way won't it get past EU law? If France and Germany (members of the EU) can have caps, then why can't the UK? Actually, it could be that France and Germany use EU law to challenge the UK system - unfair competition and all that. because in england (and probably spain and italy) money rules in football and im sure someone would find a way to stop that from happening.. would we be fooked seeing as we are in debt..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 because in england (and probably spain and italy) money rules in football and im sure someone would find a way to stop that from happening.. would we be fooked seeing as we are in debt..? I think the rest of Europe will soon get ****ed off if English clubs continue to dominate by getting into massive debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I think the rest of Europe will soon get ****ed off if English clubs continue to dominate by getting into massive debt. but....it has been done in italy then spain...we never complained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 In what way won't it get past EU law? If France and Germany (members of the EU) can have caps, then why can't the UK? Actually, it could be that France and Germany use EU law to challenge the UK system - unfair competition and all that. It's not a cap, the clubs have to exist within their income. Certainly not to in France, would lead to relegation, either Bordeaux or Marseilles fell foul of the rule a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 With Man City sitting in 20th place in the Premier League table and only 2 points above the relegation zone it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Kaka might be playing his football in the CCC next season . :smt044:smt044 Improbable as it might seem, that could actually be very good for our game in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 indeed..but they will get other prem players no doubt..which will be new money going around.. And where do you think that money comes from in the long run? Not from rich Arabs or Russians but from the man/woman on the street who can no longer afford to go religiously. The money paid for people like Kaka inflates the market for everyone else (all the way down to clubs in the CCC and lower) - the clubs without the big money backers have to try (fruitlessly) to compete and that means high ticket prices. Yet another boneheaded DDD argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 (edited) And where do you think that money comes from in the long run? Not from rich Arabs or Russians but from the man/woman on the street who can no longer afford to go religiously. The money paid for people like Kaka inflates the market for everyone else (all the way down to clubs in the CCC and lower) - the clubs without the big money backers have to try (fruitlessly) to compete and that means high ticket prices. Yet another boneheaded DDD argument. how is it bonehead when I THINK that this is a one off deal....would be no different should real ACTUALLY bid for ronaldo or if anyone is stupid enough to bid for messi... this is not a city thing...just what it takes to get one of the player in a very exclusive club... IMO..the only other players that would command a situation like KAKA is.. ronaldo gerrard messi those players would take £100m to get (unless of course their club want to sell and/or they are running out of contract) Edited 16 January, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Look, this talk of Man City bringing new money into the English games is just a load of old horse dung. No offense intended DellDays, but it doesn't work that way. Its like the old chestnut of shipping jobs overseas is 'good' for the British economy in the long run. ******. And it is perfectly possible for one of the big clubs to go bankrupt. If the glaziers or Gilletes or Abromviches of this world decided to cut their losses and run then their clubs would almost certainly fail as they are NOT sustainable businesses. Especially in a recession. There is already talk of TV money being less as people cancel SKY contracts in order to pay the gas bill instead. Man U has something like £850 million of debt. That is a lot for a new owner to swallow. It is, and always will be, the fans who will be expected to pick up the bill at the end of the day. Just like the tax payers have to bail out the greedy banks. It stinks. Money is the root of all evil and in football it is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Look, this talk of Man City bringing new money into the English games is just a load of old horse dung. No offense intended DellDays, but it doesn't work that way. Its like the old chestnut of shipping jobs overseas is 'good' for the British economy in the long run. ******. And it is perfectly possible for one of the big clubs to go bankrupt. If the glaziers or Gilletes or Abromviches of this world decided to cut their losses and run then their clubs would almost certainly fail as they are NOT sustainable businesses. Especially in a recession. There is already talk of TV money being less as people cancel SKY contracts in order to pay the gas bill instead. Man U has something like £850 million of debt. That is a lot for a new owner to swallow. It is, and always will be, the fans who will be expected to pick up the bill at the end of the day. Just like the tax payers have to bail out the greedy banks. It stinks. Money is the root of all evil and in football it is no different. well....for years people have been saying a "big club will go"...yet to see anyone get close...probably because somewhere there are people stupid enough to put silly money into a club... I see what you are saying..but even last year...the talk of sisu lasting 5 mins is clearly way off the mark...let alone mega businesses like man u etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 ...after all, look at Pompey. Their owner has 'invested' over 90 million quid in the club and now needs out in a hurry. There is a very real sense that pompey might go under. And I know we all joke about it but I wouldn't want to see our arch-rivals suffer that way any more than I would want our club to. In fact our debt of £25 million, but with a great asset of the stadium means that, ironically, SFC is actually quite 'well off'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 ...after all, look at Pompey. Their owner has 'invested' over 90 million quid in the club and now needs out in a hurry. There is a very real sense that pompey might go under. And I know we all joke about it but I wouldn't want to see our arch-rivals suffer that way any more than I would want our club to. In fact our debt of £25 million, but with a great asset of the stadium means that, ironically, SFC is actually quite 'well off'. true..but they had had a bid for pennant accepted and signed behadgj (sp)....could have quite easily NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Football is rotten to the core now. SKY came along and ruined it. Gone are the days when clubs like Saints could challenge for the premiership title and that makes the whole top division boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I swear to god I will never watch another prem football match if this transfer goes through. Utterly fvcking ridiculous. With the world's economy on its knees, how in the hell is a footballer worth £100m? In what twisted version of reality do millions of people starve every day yet someone gets paid £200,000 a week just to kick a bit of leather around a field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I swear to god I will never watch another prem football match if this transfer goes through. Utterly fvcking ridiculous. With the world's economy on its knees, how in the hell is a footballer worth £100m? In what twisted version of reality do millions of people starve every day yet someone gets paid £200,000 a week just to kick a bit of leather around a field? yet...i bet you will watch an england game..where becks plays...how much does he get paid by a third rate club..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 It's all relative. I wouldn't work in Manchester for that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 yet...i bet you will watch an england game..where becks plays...how much does he get paid by a third rate club..? In actual fact, I can't remember the last time I even watched an England game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Here is an interesting thought. How come Rugby hasn't gone the way of football? Some of the egg-chasing clubs have good attendances but you don't hear of £100m rugby players do you? It all comes down to SKY. Well I hope that Murdoch gets a bloody nose and loses a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 (edited) Supposedly much of the debt that is associated with Premiership clubs is deemed as 'sustainable' - i.e. there is a method for recouping the balance. Generally through TV, Advertising and Merchandising. The problem is that many of the Sugar Daddies have now actually provided 'personal loans' to clubs, Roman has 750 million owing if he leaves Chelsea, Al Fayed will be looking for 125 million to leave the Cottage. And there are many more in similar positions - so if (when) one walks the club more or less folds. The only up side that I can see is how on earth do you make back your 750 million. Let's be honest all you can do is sell lock, stock and barrel - in which case you are going to get bottom dollar because everybody knows your intention is to run. Therefore if Roman Abramovich decided to take the money and run - I think he would be looking at a massive loss on his 'loan'. Edited 16 January, 2009 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 ... and look at Newcastle. Matey can't find a buyer for his club and he has dropped the price! He has put in something like £200m quid. It appears that the whole game is financially unviable in its current form. The crash is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Here is an interesting thought. How come Rugby hasn't gone the way of football? Some of the egg-chasing clubs have good attendances but you don't hear of £100m rugby players do you? It all comes down to SKY. Well I hope that Murdoch gets a bloody nose and loses a lot of money. Just imagine - what would happen to Sky TV if it lost the rights to cover premiership football. It would basically rip the heart out of the company, who subscribes to Sky for their entertainment or movies these days - not a large percentage of viewers I'm sure. Sky have to keep pumping money into football because effectively it is their 'bouancy aid' and without that - they probably sink quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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