Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[sadoldgit]

Wow!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-supporter-kills-his-own-daughter-after-debate-about-trump/ar-AA1W5DNk?cvid=731e77e0816f48c8f41534b2ab1bf3df&ocid=hpmsn

[badgerx16]

20 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Wow!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-supporter-kills-his-own-daughter-after-debate-about-trump/ar-AA1W5DNk?cvid=731e77e0816f48c8f41534b2ab1bf3df&ocid=hpmsn

If only she had had a gun as well.........

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, egg said: 

In related news,  the downturn in the Nasdaq and stagnation of the other US markets is in stark contrast to the Japanese market. That loss of trust in the US is irreversible. 

Yep, American pretty much can be referred to as a former superpower now, same as Russia. Both nations are still powerful but China is the only superpower in town.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Pam Bondi (US AG) being ripped to shreds in today’s deposition.

Lied under oath several times and been caught out along the way.

Edited February 11 by Willo of Whiteley

[Sheaf Saint]

10 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Wow!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-supporter-kills-his-own-daughter-after-debate-about-trump/ar-AA1W5DNk?cvid=731e77e0816f48c8f41534b2ab1bf3df&ocid=hpmsn

Probably belongs more in the "What is wrong with America?" thread than this one.

The fact that they argued over Trump is largely irrelevant. But the notion that in Texas you can be drunk in charge of a firearm and 'accidentally' kill someone with it without facing any kind of criminal trial is just fucking insane.

[badgerx16]

Going bak to Trump's comment on Bad Bunny, "I didn't understand a word of what he was saying", presumably he has never been to the Opera.

[Wiggles31]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0zdd7yl4vo
 

Another catastrophic decision made. Really makes it feel rather pointless washing out a jar to recycle it. 

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0zdd7yl4vo
 

Another catastrophic decision made. Really makes it feel rather pointless washing out a jar to recycle it. 

The stupid thing is, when a Democrat hecomes the next President he/she can just turn things back 180 degrees and reinstate the sane position.

Who would have thought that appointing a panel of strongly climate sceptic "experts" to review the evidence would lead to a conclusion that the established position is a "scam"?

Edited Friday at 07:43 by badgerx16

[Farmer Saint]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The stupid thing is, when a Democrat hecomes the next President he/she can just turn things back 180 degrees and reinstate the sane position.

Who would have thought that appointing a panel of strongly climate sceptic "experts" to review the evidence would lead to a conclusion that the established position is a "scam"?

What I find really odd is that they won't be able to export their cars to Canada, Mexico etc without those emissions limits, so the R&D will still have to continue and prices will still stay high. There are no real savings available here.

[badgerx16]

ICE now picking up abd detaining Ukrainian refugees in the US.

[Sir Ralph]

Good on Rubio. Calling out the decline of the west again and said they won’t be custodians of managed decline. Doing Europeans leaders job for them

Edited Saturday at 13:39 by Sir Ralph

[badgerx16]

14 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Good on Rubio. Calling out the decline of the west again and said they won’t be custodians of managed decline. Doing Europeans leaders job for them

You're really proud to be British aren't you.

[Sir Ralph]

8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

You're really proud to be British aren't you.

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

Edited Saturday at 13:57 by Sir Ralph

[whelk]

18 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

I bet you are scared in London

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

Good on Rubio. Calling out the decline of the west again and said they won’t be custodians of managed decline. Doing Europeans leaders job for them

And nowhere is the decline more apparent than in the USA.

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

What like?

[Sir Ralph]

13 minutes ago, aintforever said:

What like?

In my opinion a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment, increase in growth of the state and state intervention, key institutions becoming woke and promoting these ideologies, increased reliance of the population on welfare to start with. Being proud of the heritage or tradition of your country is something that, till recently, was something that many of the supposed metropolitan elite would sneer at. Hopefully we are at some form of turning point though but we will have to see. 

Edited Saturday at 15:56 by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

24 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

And nowhere is the decline more apparent than in the USA.

Says you as an American citizen. 

[tdmickey3]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

You should go to Dubai, its great over there apparently 

[Sir Ralph]

8 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

You should go to Dubai, its great over there apparently 

I suppose if you benefit from a ballooning state and welfare budget this is the type of comment you would make.

Edited Saturday at 16:03 by Sir Ralph

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

Apparently you're not allowed to say Happy Christmas anymore

[aintforever]

9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

In my opinion a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment, increase in growth of the state and state intervention, key institutions becoming woke and promoting these ideologies, increased reliance of the population on welfare to start with. Being proud of the heritage or tradition of your country is something that, till recently, was something that many of the supposed metropolitan elite would sneer at. Hopefully we are at some form of turning point though but we will have to see. 

In my opinion our welfare state is something we should all be proud of, taking care of societies most vulnerable is something a good country does. It obviously has its faults but historically it is something the UK should be proud of.

[Sir Ralph]

2 minutes ago, aintforever said:

In my opinion our welfare state is something we should all be proud of, taking care of societies most vulnerable is something a good country does. It obviously has its faults but historically it is something the UK should be proud of.

In principle it’s needed but in my opinion nowhere near the extent that it is now. It’s created in some a mentality of reliance on the state which is not healthy for them or tax payers and negatively impacts overall productivity 

Edited Saturday at 16:08 by Sir Ralph

[aintforever]

6 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

In principle it’s needed but in my opinion nowhere near the extent that it is now. It’s created in some a mentality of reliance on the state which is not healthy for them or tax payers and negatively impacts overall productivity 

I don’t necessarily disagree but you should still be proud of a county that takes care of the most vulnerable. There are plenty of places around the World that don’t, it’s pure luck that we were born in a place as great as the UK that does.

[Sir Ralph]

11 minutes ago, aintforever said:

I don’t necessarily disagree but you should still be proud of a county that takes care of the most vulnerable. There are plenty of places around the World that don’t, it’s pure luck that we were born in a place as great as the UK that does.

Like I said there are some things to be proud of but what I perceive to be the decline over the last 20 years which is what my concern is and what I am becoming less proud of. Do you think the country has declined in the last 20 years or so?

i also agree we should count our blessing and how lucky we are in some respects. However I don’t want my kids to be raised in a country that has declined over recent years. It’s incumbent on us to make sure they have similar opportunities 

Edited Saturday at 16:28 by Sir Ralph

[aintforever]

43 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Like I said there are some things to be proud of but what I perceive to be the decline over the last 20 years which is what my concern is and what I am becoming less proud of. Do you think the country has declined in the last 20 years or so?

i also agree we should count our blessing and how lucky we are in some respects. However I don’t want my kids to be raised in a country that has declined over recent years. It’s incumbent on us to make sure they have similar opportunities 

Of course there is plenty that is worse now than 20 years ago, plenty that is better as well. What I am most proud of about the country (our values of compassion, tolerance, fairness, freedom and democracy) hasn’t really changed though. 

[Sir Ralph]

38 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Of course there is plenty that is worse now than 20 years ago, plenty that is better as well. What I am most proud of about the country (our values of compassion, tolerance, fairness, freedom and democracy) hasn’t really changed though. 

Being tolerant is again in principle a good thing. Being tolerant of certain ideologies is, in my opinion, naive and damaging, particularly where discourse about the acceptablility of those ideologies is shut down. This is where tolerance has been taken to an extreme. This is where we may diverge but that’s fine. 

Edited Saturday at 17:46 by Sir Ralph

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

In my opinion a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment, increase in growth of the state and state intervention, key institutions becoming woke and promoting these ideologies, increased reliance of the population on welfare to start with. Being proud of the heritage or tradition of your country is something that, till recently, was something that many of the supposed metropolitan elite would sneer at. Hopefully we are at some form of turning point though but we will have to see. 

What encouragement for business growth would you like to see?

[Sheaf Saint]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment

This appears to be based on nothing more than your intrinsic dislike for Labour and the age-old Tory attack line of them being "anti-business", rather than any actual facts.

I work for a regulatory body and, believe me, this government is going to great lengths to try and reduce regulatory burden and stimulate economic growth. Whether or not their efforts will succeed remains to be seen, but to suggest they are not encouraging growth is completely false.

[whelk]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

In principle it’s needed but in my opinion nowhere near the extent that it is now. It’s created in some a mentality of reliance on the state which is not healthy for them or tax payers and negatively impacts overall productivity 

A lot of benefit is paid to people who work but get minimum wage and topped up by the govt. Likes of Mike Ashley can sell cheap trainers cos he pays his workers fuck all. Good for growth eh

 

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

This appears to be based on nothing more than your intrinsic dislike for Labour and the age-old Tory attack line of them being "anti-business", rather than any actual facts.

I work for a regulatory body and, believe me, this government is going to great lengths to try and reduce regulatory burden and stimulate economic growth. Whether or not their efforts will succeed remains to be seen, but to suggest they are not encouraging growth is completely false.

I didn’t mention Labour. You said that. I made a non political party statement. The decline is also not just business related in my personal opinion 

This is a cross party failure over the past twenty years. I agree that Labour are trying to reduce regulation to encourage business in part but have contradicted themselves in other parts by increasing taxes on business and business owners to fund increased state and welfare spending, thereby increasing the attractiveness for investment and reducing it in other parts.
 

As I said, I didn’t mention Labour speciifically it’s a cross party failure that has allowed the decline

Edited Saturday at 20:10 by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

A lot of benefit is paid to people who work but get minimum wage and topped up by the govt. Likes of Mike Ashley can sell cheap trainers cos he pays his workers fuck all. Good for growth eh

 

Welfare helps some people that need it, such as the example you referred to, but it’s gone too far and supports people who abuse it and don’t want to work. The increase in welfare benefit is a move in the wrong direction. In this forum my view may be in the minority but in normal circles it is well publicised so not a controversial one and an approach that a number of well supported political parties will be promoting as they are voted for by hard working tax payers. A successful economy does not allow welfare reliance for certain parts of society to occur to this extent, hence the reference to decline in this respect. Obviously it’s fine for us to disagree on his point.

Edited Saturday at 20:18 by Sir Ralph

[tdmickey3]

4 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I suppose if you benefit from a ballooning state and welfare budget this is the type of comment you would make.

😂

[egg]

...

Broken link. 

Edited Sunday at 07:39 by egg

[east-stand-nic]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/914305674593975

https://www.facebook.com/reel/903137992183258

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1581553716323594

https://www.facebook.com/reel/885500494125828

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2669360290065328

Very responsible behavior, trying to release someone arrested from the SUV. Had that of been a right wing person, you lot would be all over it, yet here, it will deemed as OK and all good and bad by the Trump ICE people. Couldn't make it up. 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1971850513396756

But didn't Khan just unveil Ramadan lights yesterday?

Nope, not the same at all. 

Edited Monday at 06:16 by east-stand-nic

[tdmickey3]

9 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/914305674593975

https://www.facebook.com/reel/903137992183258

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1581553716323594

https://www.facebook.com/reel/885500494125828

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2669360290065328

Very responsible behavior, trying to release someone arrested from the SUV. Had that of been a right wing person, you lot would be all over it, yet here, it will deemed as OK and all good and bad by the Trump ICE people. Couldn't make it up. 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1971850513396756

But didn't Khan just unveil Ramadan lights yesterday?

Nope, not the same at all. 

Facebook 🤣

[sadoldgit]

Someone doesn’t understand the difference between deporting those who legally should be deported in an orderly fashion and shooting dead US citizens on the street without justification.

Edited yesterday at 15:53 by sadoldgit
Not only doesn’t he know the difference, he thinks it is funny.

[badgerx16]

Judge blocks Trump adminstration's attempt to erase awkward history;

 

[moonraker]

On 14/02/2026 at 13:33, Sir Ralph said:

Good on Rubio. Calling out the decline of the west again and said they won’t be custodians of managed decline. Doing Europeans leaders job for them

The one that is declining in the west for certain is US influence and power.

[moonraker]

On 14/02/2026 at 19:57, Sir Ralph said:

Welfare helps some people that need it, such as the example you referred to, but it’s gone too far and supports people who abuse it and don’t want to work. The increase in welfare benefit is a move in the wrong direction. In this forum my view may be in the minority but in normal circles it is well publicised so not a controversial one and an approach that a number of well supported political parties will be promoting as they are voted for by hard working tax payers. A successful economy does not allow welfare reliance for certain parts of society to occur to this extent, hence the reference to decline in this respect. Obviously it’s fine for us to disagree on his point.

So how would achieve your vison in a single parliament? Would you put as much effort and commitment into tackling tax avoidance? far more money to be had there.

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, moonraker said:

The one that is declining in the west for certain is US influence and power.

Absolutely. The lack of self awareness by everyone in Trump’s administration is staggering. Given that he and the rest of Trump’s cronies are actively dismantling democracy in the US and turning it into Trump’s own banana republic is not lost on most of the rest of the world.

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, moonraker said:

So how would achieve your vison in a single parliament? Would you put as much effort and commitment into tackling tax avoidance? far more money to be had there.

I think he agrees with tax avoidance TBF...it's only benefits cheats that he doesn't agree with.

[tdmickey3]

Just now, Farmer Saint said:

I think he agrees with tax avoidance TBF...it's only benefits cheats that he doesn't agree with.

He wants to keep children in poverty too

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, moonraker said:

So how would achieve your vison in a single parliament? Would you put as much effort and commitment into tackling tax avoidance? far more money to be had there.

Tax 'avoidance' is completely legal, unless / until the laws are changed, which, with a fucking stonking majority should be pretty simple to achieve if the Government wants to.  Perhaps this tells us the Government agree with tax avoidance?

Tax 'evasion' on the other hand....

[badgerx16]

Part of the Save America Act wants to bring in compulsory voter ID. It is claimed that over 20 million US citizens do not have any of the required forms of ID necessary to register to vote under the proposed new regulations.

For instance, at least half of Americans do not have a passport.

Edited 2 hours ago by badgerx16

[badgerx16]

........

 

Edited 2 hours ago by badgerx16
posted in error

[Sir Ralph]

4 hours ago, moonraker said:

So how would achieve your vison in a single parliament? Would you put as much effort and commitment into tackling tax avoidance? far more money to be had there.

HMRC are already putting measures in place for tax evasion and have increased spending and officers to do so (and rightly so). As this is an issue the government have increased spending to address it. I’m not an expert in this so I don’t know exactly how they will do this.

I’m more concerned with increasing welfare spending. Unlike tax evasion which they addressed by increasing spending, with welfare, despite abuse of the system and too much spending,  they increased the welfare budget!. Whilst the usual crowd on here suggest I’m some sort of extremist, back in the real world of working people this is a commonly held view. Rather than change the angle of the discussion do you think welfare spending is excessive and should not have been increased? 

Edited 1 hour ago by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

3 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

He wants to keep children in poverty too

You always get so angry when I mention about reducing the welfare budget. What is your objection to it? Do you not think there is abuse and wastage or is this objection more from a self interest perspective? Its useful to understand as the constant objection with no explanation (a typical trait of yours) is boring.

Edited 1 hour ago by Sir Ralph

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, Sir Ralph said:

You always get so angry when I mention about reducing the welfare budget. What is your objection to it? Do you not think there is abuse and wastage or is this objection more from a self interest perspective? Fine if it is but just helpful to understand 

Angry 😂 not at all mush just making sure others know exactly what kind of person you are……. Vile

The welfare budget has no effect on me at all but I have compassion for those less fortunate especially children 

[egg]

34 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

HMRC are already putting measures in place for tax evasion and have increased spending and officers to do so (and rightly so). As this is an issue the government have increased spending to address it. I’m not an expert in this so I don’t know exactly how they will do this.

I’m more concerned with increasing welfare spending. Unlike tax evasion which they addressed by increasing spending, with welfare, despite abuse of the system and too much spending,  they increased the welfare budget!. Whilst the usual crowd on here suggest I’m some sort of extremist, back in the real world of working people this is a commonly held view. Rather than change the angle of the discussion do you think welfare spending is excessive and should not have been increased? 

"Cut welfare" is an easy headline. You're just making noise.

You need to explain what you actually mean. No child benefit? No benefits for people who can't work? No benefits to help people who are between jobs and actually looking for work? No state pension? Etc.