AndyNorthernSaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Just home from work expecting to see details of Portaloo losing his job. I thought if he didn't go now he never will. What other club would keep him in a job? We have no game next weekend so a perfect time to get someone in who knows this league and has time to work with current squad on shooting practice, marking at set pieces and motivation as well as getting some loan players in before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Unfortunately he won't go as he is Rupes puppet!! He would rather us get relegated than admit he was wrong!! Port's got the safest job in football!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Just home from work expecting to see details of Portaloo losing his job. I thought if he didn't go now he never will. What other club would keep him in a job? We have no game next weekend so a perfect time to get someone in who knows this league and has time to work with current squad on shooting practice, marking at set pieces and motivation as well as getting some loan players in before the window closes. There lies your answer,unfortunatley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 JP is too proud to resign, Lowe is too proud to admit he was wrong and sack him. He's going to be here for the long haul, Rupert Lowe will just keep falling back on the no money to replace him bull**** and people will beleive him while saying what an impossible job he has, which he hasn't, our squad is good enough to survive if we had a semi decent manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I can only see trouble ahead then and more trouble at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 JP is too proud to resign, Lowe is too proud to admit he was wrong and sack him. He's going to be here for the long haul, Rupert Lowe will just keep falling back on the no money to replace him bull**** and people will beleive him while saying what an impossible job he has, which he hasn't, our squad is good enough to survive if we had a semi decent manager. I could cry ](*,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 JP is too proud to resign, Lowe is too proud to admit he was wrong and sack him. He's going to be here for the long haul, Rupert Lowe will just keep falling back on the no money to replace him bull**** and people will beleive him while saying what an impossible job he has, which he hasn't, our squad is good enough to survive if we had a semi decent manager. So we can afford to pay up his contract and then appoint someone who will probably want more money? Brilliant news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graymalkin33 Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I had the very same feeling today..... but i was glad to see he has NOT gone. We cant keep changing managers when the wind changes. Didnt we have 3 managers in our relegation season.... doesnt that tell you something..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 So we can afford to pay up his contract and then appoint someone who will probably want more money? Brilliant news. but we can afford to pay for Pullis, Peckhart, Robertson, Wooton, Smith, Gasmi, Forcast etc plus our big summer signing Morgan S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 but we can afford to pay for Pullis, Peckhart, Robertson, Wooton, Smith, Gasmi, Forcast etc plus our big summer signing Morgan S. Yes we can and now the picture is forming. Jan is Saints as Fergie is to Man Utd and Wooton is to Saints as Lampard is to Chelsea. They are all bargain basement. It is all we can afford. Our players and manager are evenly matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If I was the chairman i'd sell anyone in the squad to make some money to change the manager, something needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 So we can afford to pay up his contract and then appoint someone who will probably want more money? Brilliant news. When will you get your brain in gear...we cannot afford NOT to get rid of the manager, it is the only way we can hope to stay solvent in this division with the Shareholders we have running the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Yes we can and now the picture is forming. Jan is Saints as Fergie is to Man Utd and Wooton is to Saints as Lampard is to Chelsea. They are all bargain basement. It is all we can afford. Our players and manager are evenly matched. How much is it going to cost to sack JP get a new manager new players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 How much is it going to cost to sack JP get a new manager new players? We've got sellable assets. Sell Surman/Lallana and get a new manager and give him total control of first team stuff and use any money left over to get some experience in on loan. Need a manager in who can united the dressing room, get people like Skacel and Euell wanting to play for us again. Someone to work on the players fitness and confidence and we will be fine even with Surman and Lallana sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Yes we can and now the picture is forming. Jan is Saints as Fergie is to Man Utd and Wooton is to Saints as Lampard is to Chelsea. They are all bargain basement. It is all we can afford. Our players and manager are evenly matched. we could afford any realistic available manager.. all out of work to.. heck, even boothrooy was asking for a job on the radio the other day.. if they dont go to us....or turn us down, who will it be for...blackpool.?..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If I was the chairman i'd sell anyone in the squad to make some money to change the manager, something needs to be done. If I was Chairman and as despised as Lowe is, I'd resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 When will you get your brain in gear...we cannot afford NOT to get rid of the manager, it is the only way we can hope to stay solvent in this division with the Shareholders we have running the club Firstly, thanks for the insult re my brain. I appreciate it. Secondly, perhaps you do not understand the basic way in which money works. Imagine this scenario. You have £5 in the bank yet you employ me to do a job. I haven't broken any rules of the comapny yet you now think I am not the man for the job. You seek legal advice and it says that to get rid of me requires me to have done something amounting to gross misconduct or you have to pay me off. I don't know how long his contract is but if it is 2 years, then you have to stump up 2 years pay. You go back to the bank account and see that you still only have £5 in there, "but we can't afford NOT to get rid of him", you tell the bank manager, who looks you in the eye and says, "Oh do work it out thicko." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 we could afford any realistic available manager.. all out of work to.. heck, even boothrooy was asking for a job on the radio the other day.. if they dont go to us....or turn us down, who will it be for...blackpool.?..lol Stupid thing is, if he wasn't so bloody stubborn, he could use this situation as a real positive. Admit the mistake now or more likely in Lowe's case get Jan to resign, appoint a hardy manager who knows what it takes to survive in this division and take the plaudits when we survive. He can't actually lose anything!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 to be fair we have a big game coming up tomorrow and if he goes it will be after that. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Seriously crazy that he has not been sacked.. Would ANY other club put up with such spectacular incompetance...NO We will be relegated if he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Firstly, thanks for the insult re my brain. I appreciate it. Secondly, perhaps you do not understand the basic way in which money works. Imagine this scenario. You have £5 in the bank yet you employ me to do a job. I haven't broken any rules of the comapny yet you now think I am not the man for the job. You seek legal advice and it says that to get rid of me requires me to have done something amounting to gross misconduct or you have to pay me off. I don't know how long his contract is but if it is 2 years, then you have to stump up 2 years pay. You go back to the bank account and see that you still only have £5 in there, "but we can't afford NOT to get rid of him", you tell the bank manager, who looks you in the eye and says, "Oh do work it out thicko." You do not have to pay him off immediately, you ca continue to pay the guy on a weekly monthly/ basis or let him take you to a tribunal. If you look at the results they are enough to get rid of the guy on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 You do not have to pay him off immediately, you ca continue to pay the guy on a weekly monthly/ basis or let him take you to a tribunal. If you look at the results they are enough to get rid of the guy on the cheap. So we now have enough money to keep paying him and also pay another manager which we install to take over. We must be loaded. Lets try and get Jose in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 to be fair we have a big game coming up tomorrow and if he goes it will be after that. Who are we playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 How much is it going to cost to sack JP get a new manager new players? One hell of a lot less than the consequences of relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 So we now have enough money to keep paying him and also pay another manager which we install to take over. We must be loaded. Lets try and get Jose in. I'm only guessing here but knowing Lowe I'd guess that Portaloo is on a rolling 12 month contract, with that being the case i see no reason why we can't appoint a manager now, and keep Portaloo on as coach, after all he's only our head coach anyway so it's not like we're sacking him. Explain to our new manager that he'll be working with Portaloo as his number 2 until his contract expires at the end of the season when we his contract wont be renewed, then the new man can bring in his own number 2. Hopefully Portaloo would be to proud to accept this situation and would hand in his resignation! On the other hand, how much will it cost us to stay as we are and get relegated?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fen Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 JP is too proud to resign, Lowe is too proud to admit he was wrong and sack him. He's going to be here for the long haul, Rupert Lowe will just keep falling back on the no money to replace him bull**** and people will beleive him while saying what an impossible job he has, which he hasn't, our squad is good enough to survive if we had a semi decent manager. Agreed, If Lowe sacks Jan then he's confirming to everyone he's messed up again, which we all know he has royally. Just when we throught we could build on staying up last season Wilde and Lowe turn up with this master plan and take this club even lower. The squad is good enough maybe one or two decent loan signings might help (not the crap we have got in so far this season bar Jack Cork who didn't even want to stay). With the right manager we could stay up, however time is running out every game which passes and we have a vital game with Norwich which we really do need to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 The ony way Jan will go is if he resigns. Thats why the fans need to target him with abuse as games as i don't think he'd be difficult to break. I like Jan as a person but he need to do whats right for this club an thats to leave. If he wn't then the fans need to pressure him n to it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I had the very same feeling today..... but i was glad to see he has NOT gone. We cant keep changing managers when the wind changes. Didnt we have 3 managers in our relegation season.... doesnt that tell you something..... Yes, that Lowe should never have got rid of a perfectly capable manager (Sturrock) in the first place and replace him with an incompetent amateur. At least Lowe learned from that monumental mistake. Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Lowe won't sack JP. He would have to admit he was wrong. The only way JP will be removed is if the worms, who put 6% Lowe in charge, turn. Oily Guy Askham, Spinless Mike Wilde, Andrew 'the fag' Cowen etc etc, need to point out to Lowe what he needs to do. Don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StubbSaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If I was the chairman i'd sell anyone in the squad to make some money to change the manager, something needs to be done. changed your tune now then , you slagged me off for calling him a dutch joker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I can only see trouble ahead then and more trouble at SMS. I may start going more - I love watching violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 So we can afford to pay up his contract and then appoint someone who will probably want more money? Brilliant news. You can fire people for gross incompetence, wouldn't be difficult to prove in this case. Wouldn't cost a penny. Anyway as we all know JP is paid peanuts thats why he was soooo much a better option than NP, so it wouldn't cost much to get rid. Whatever it would cost will pale into insignificance to the cost of relegation to Division 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 (edited) If I was the chairman i'd sell anyone in the squad to make some money to change the manager, something needs to be done. I agree with that Andy, After having a loan player like Jack Cork who then moved on - " losing " any good player is the same as them breaking a leg (!) namely, they aren't there to select. If we sold anyone and made money, it would help our financial survival which is the primary concern this month. Even if we had players like the classy, but injured - Michael Svensson or the highly paid but equally invisible Jason Euell - where is that man ? We might just as well be without them as they are no good to the club unless they are out their giving their 99% every match. However, I don't see RL changing his manager - where else could he get anyone for that price ? We probably paid Doddsy more than JP is getting. Any new manager would demand money for players and import his veteran cronies from his past life. Most of the unemployed managers around are on the dole for one reason. They could only manage ONE club, usually the one they started with and since then they've all been utter failures- name who you like; One hit wonders - all of them ! ..........and certain not to be any use to us right now. I think we have no choice but to stick with JP - Rupert Lowe would surely not sack yet ANOTHER manager.! I'd be prepared to see almost anyone leave just now - except Kelvin Davis as I don't think either of the other lads are any sort of replacement for him. Edited 19 January, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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