Israel

[whelk]

14 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm not being funny, I have consistently berated Netanyahu, his cronies and the IDF, and not once have I been accused of anti-Semitism on here, or in public.

In his head the forum is littered with far right Muslim hating nazis ie anyone who doesn’t share his view on anything

[aintforever]

7 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

When they industrialise mass murder, building dedicated extermination camps and organising railway schedules to prioritise the transportation of thousands in cattle cars, many of whom are gassed immediately on arrival at their new "labour camp". When they dig pits into which extermination squads shoot and dump thousands of victims, then they are approaching Nazism.

Try watching Schindler's List, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas, or any of the other films covering the Holocaust. Read about Babyn Yar, or the other actions of the Einsatzgruppen. Whilst the IDF are committing terrible acts, and there seems to be a tolerance of them by the Israeli government, they are way short of Hitler and the Final Solution.

I’ve have read plenty about the holocaust thanks, probably more than you. I’m not for once suggesting that the Israeli government is as bad as the Nazis or what they are doing is anywhere near as bad as what happened during the holocaust. I just saw similarities with the ghettos in how they are starving children to death.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm not being funny, I have consistently berated Netanyahu, his cronies and the IDF, and not once have I been accused of anti-Semitism on here, or in public.

 

2 hours ago, whelk said:

In his head the forum is littered with far right Muslim hating nazis ie anyone who doesn’t share his view on anything

That. And also SOG never being able to separate the Israeli government from Jewish people in his attacks, believing in a hierarchy of racism where he said it's only anti semitism when you mention the holocaust, saying that the hostages were safer with Hamas than with the IDF and trying to score points when civilians were killed on a safe route.

We also have a thread where his views went right past the extremes of Palestinian supporters in this country, past Palestinian activists and past Palestinian politicians who apologised for saying things SOG agreed with. 

That's just off the top of my head, and they aren't things I'm trying to remember. A "poor me" or a post completely ignoring points people have been saying to him for years, should have the context of his history here.

[east-stand-nic]

12 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

 

That. And also SOG never being able to separate the Israeli government from Jewish people in his attacks, believing in a hierarchy of racism where he said it's only anti semitism when you mention the holocaust, saying that the hostages were safer with Hamas than with the IDF and trying to score points when civilians were killed on a safe route.

We also have a thread where his views went right past the extremes of Palestinian supporters in this country, past Palestinian activists and past Palestinian politicians who apologised for saying things SOG agreed with. 

That's just off the top of my head, and they aren't things I'm trying to remember. A "poor me" or a post completely ignoring points people have been saying to him for years, should have the context of his history here.

I think his justification for beheadings was the best. It is quick and clean ... Better than being blown up by an Israeli bomb. 

[badgerx16]

47 minutes ago, aintforever said:

I’ve have read plenty about the holocaust thanks, probably more than you. I’m not for once suggesting that the Israeli government is as bad as the Nazis or what they are doing is anywhere near as bad as what happened during the holocaust. I just saw similarities with the ghettos in how they are starving children to death.

With regard to your last point, this is a Boer child detained by the British duting the second Boer War;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War_concentration_camps#/media/File:LizzieVanZyl.jpg

Concentration camps in which civilians starved existed long before the Nazis.

Edited 1 hour ago by badgerx16
removed image, only look if you are not easily upset

[badgerx16]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20n9yzxyyvo

"A cast member at the Royal Opera House unfurled a Palestinian flag on stage during a curtain call on Saturday night."

[whelk]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20n9yzxyyvo

"A cast member at the Royal Opera House unfurled a Palestinian flag on stage during a curtain call on Saturday night."

I’d have more respect if they doused themselves in petrol and set themselves on fire. Show some commitment!

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

 

Concentration camps in which civilians starved existed long before the Nazis.

And they should be confined to history, what Israel is doing is just inhumane.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-malnutrition-children-blockade-israel-1.7524680

[badgerx16]

12 minutes ago, aintforever said:

And they should be confined to history, what Israel is doing is just inhumane.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-malnutrition-children-blockade-israel-1.7524680

1) But that does not make them Nazis.

2) And the bigger shame is that 'the west' is seemingly doing nothing to stop it.