Israel

[Weston Super Saint]

8 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

If I was going to be killed I’d rather it was over quickly and not drawn out in agony. Wouldn’t you?

Say we were back in the Middle Ages and you had been caught fiddling with one of Henry V111’s wives. You are given a choice of being hung, drawn and quartered or beheaded. It’s a no brainer (almost literally in the latter case) surely?

 

I’d rather not be killed at all of course, but we are speaking metaphorically 😉

Jesus wept.

[Weston Super Saint]

Can anyone explain what Hamas Hamas's end game is supposed to be and why they continue to hold on to the hostages?

Whilst they have hostages, Israel will continue to bomb, maim and kill with the backing of the US. Release all the hostages and that stops - maybe not, but if it continues after that point any International sympathy for Israel will disappear.

I just can't see what Hamas are trying to achieve, but maybe I've missed something?

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

If I was going to be killed I’d rather it was over quickly and not drawn out in agony. Wouldn’t you?

Say we were back in the Middle Ages and you had been caught fiddling with one of Henry V111’s wives. You are given a choice of being hung, drawn and quartered or beheaded. It’s a no brainer (almost literally in the latter case) surely?

 

I’d rather not be killed at all of course, but we are speaking metaphorically 😉

Can you ask them to change your medication, you’ve fucking lost it you. 

[iansums]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Can anyone explain what Hamas Hamas's end game is supposed to be and why they continue to hold on to the hostages?

Whilst they have hostages, Israel will continue to bomb, maim and kill with the backing of the US. Release all the hostages and that stops - maybe not, but if it continues after that point any International sympathy for Israel will disappear.

I just can't see what Hamas are trying to achieve, but maybe I've missed something?

Ultimately, the destruction of Israel, all Jews and then the rest of the non-believers. They want an ongoing war/hostilities with Israel and couldn't care less about the 'Palestinians'. It always makes me smile when I see or hear 'free Palestine', exactly how would that pan out with Hamas in charge? The Palestinians certainly wouldn't be free.

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, EssEffCee said:

Fucking hell 😂

If anything, IS are quite humanitarian opting for the quick and painless option. Good on them. 

[iansums]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

If anything, IS are quite humanitarian opting for the quick and painless option. Good on them. 

Reminds me of Michael Palin in Life of Brian, “beheading?…….good”

[sadoldgit]

A history lesson for those who think that decapitation is only an Islamist thing.

The last official execution by guillotine in France was in September 1977. The use of the guillotine was only officially ended when France stopped the death penalty in 1981. That is 44 years ago. Some of you were alive at the time.

But, hey, those pesky Muslims eh?

[Turkish]

Just now, sadoldgit said:

A history lesson for those who think that decapitation is only an Islamist thing.

The last official execution by guillotine in France was in September 1977. The use of the guillotine was only officially ended when France stopped the death penalty in 1981. That is 44 years ago. Some of you were alive at the time.

But, hey, those pesky Muslims eh?

What on earth are you going on about now?? Beheading are okay because the French used to do them in the 70s? 😂😂

 

Have the weekend off, you've lost it.

[Lighthouse]

4 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

A history lesson for those who think that decapitation is only an Islamist thing.

The last official execution by guillotine in France was in September 1977. The use of the guillotine was only officially ended when France stopped the death penalty in 1981. That is 44 years ago. Some of you were alive at the time.

But, hey, those pesky Muslims eh?

Yeah, teenagers at a music festival are basically the same as a guy who was lawfully convicted of abducting, torturing, raping and murdering multiple women.

Another new low reached in this thread.

[sadoldgit]

11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Yeah, teenagers at a music festival are basically the same as a guy who was lawfully convicted of abducting, torturing, raping and murdering multiple women.

Another new low reached in this thread.

No one said that though did they? We were talking about the use of decapitation. You have sunk to a hypochondriac level of conflation. Another new low.

[sadoldgit]

Here’s a thought for those still supporting Netanyahu. Using his logic, whenever you criticise Keir Starmer and his government, you are anti-British.

[hypochondriac]

52 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What on earth are you going on about now?? Beheading are okay because the French used to do them in the 70s? 😂😂

 

Have the weekend off, you've lost it.

Who's worse, someone who goes around beheading people or Ched Evans? Ched never considered the women's feelings. At least IS made the suffering end nice and quick. 

Edited 8 hours ago by hypochondriac

[aintforever]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Can anyone explain what Hamas Hamas's end game is supposed to be and why they continue to hold on to the hostages?

Whilst they have hostages, Israel will continue to bomb, maim and kill with the backing of the US. Release all the hostages and that stops - maybe not, but if it continues after that point any International sympathy for Israel will disappear.

I just can't see what Hamas are trying to achieve, but maybe I've missed something?

I agree it doesn't seem to make sense apart from the fact that Israel will kill, maim and bomb regardless of the hostage situation. It looked like a deal was done and the hostages were on their way but as soon as Trump announced his plan it gave Israel the green light to pretty much kill who they want. Their aim now is simply to ethnic cleanse so they can steal more land and build Trump's resort.

From what I understand, the second phase of the deal that was agreed was to free all the hostages, a permanent ceasefire and involved Israel removing all their troops from Gaza. The hostages should be at home with their families but Israel chose to carry on killing, I expect because Trump's plan would be harder if phase two had been completed.

Edited 7 hours ago by aintforever

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

No one said that though did they? We were talking about the use of decapitation. You have sunk to a hypochondriac level of conflation. Another new low.

Technically, the beheading 'discussion' was mainly you and your whataboutery to try and show that beheading is OK actually, not that bad.

[Farmer Saint]

4 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

If I was going to be killed I’d rather it was over quickly and not drawn out in agony. Wouldn’t you?

Say we were back in the Middle Ages and you had been caught fiddling with one of Henry V111’s wives. You are given a choice of being hung, drawn and quartered or beheaded. It’s a no brainer (almost literally in the latter case) surely?

 

I’d rather not be killed at all of course, but we are speaking metaphorically 😉

Look, please let's not go down fucking straw man's on how we'd like to be killed. It's not making the point you want it to, I promise you.

Love from someone who thinks the Israeli forces are utter cunts (as are Hamas). 

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, iansums said:

Ultimately, the destruction of Israel, all Jews and then the rest of the non-believers. They want an ongoing war/hostilities with Israel and couldn't care less about the 'Palestinians'. It always makes me smile when I see or hear 'free Palestine', exactly how would that pan out with Hamas in charge? The Palestinians certainly wouldn't be free.

The problem is, and this is down to the way it's been dealt with, I would expect most Palestinians would now want Hamas in charge considering the utter demolition of their strip. Previously it was a case of unfair elections and corruption that kept them in charge. Whatever happens, whether it's called Hamas or Hezbollah, or whatever rises from the ashes, the Palestinian's will (perhaps rightly now) want the destruction of Israel. I think that's why Israel have acted like they have, as this gives them carte blanche to take control of the area because of the future threat they will now have to endure.

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

No one said that though did they? We were talking about the use of decapitation. You have sunk to a hypochondriac level of conflation. Another new low.

If there was an Olympic whataboutery competition, you would beat Trousers to the gold medal.

 

Nobody, I mean NOBODY, was claiming that decapitation was an exclusively "Islamist thing", and using legal execution of convicted murderers in comparison to the slaughter of innocent people by terrorists is cringe worthy. Some people sentenced to death in Court have been shot by firing squad, but that doesn't in any way equate to the victims of the HAMAS attacks who were machine gunned.

Edited 7 hours ago by badgerx16

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

A history lesson for those who think that decapitation is only an Islamist thing.

The last official execution by guillotine in France was in September 1977. The use of the guillotine was only officially ended when France stopped the death penalty in 1981. That is 44 years ago. Some of you were alive at the time.

But, hey, those pesky Muslims eh?

Guillotine versus someone literally sawing off your head with a semi sharp blade. Are you fucking kidding?

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Guillotine versus someone literally sawing off your head with a semi sharp blade. Are you fucking kidding?

He needs to stop digging.

[whelk]

SOG has completely turned into a mad cunt. Imagine if it was one of his daughters at the peace festival beheaded whilst others filmed and laughed. His eulogy would be “at least she had a quick peaceful death with no fear. You got to admire those Hamas cunts they don’t draw it out, not like soldiers bombing terrorist hideouts”

 

[Farmer Saint]

6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

He needs to stop digging.

He does. The way Hamas killed those people was fucking barbaric.

[whelk]

19 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Guillotine versus someone literally sawing off your head with a semi sharp blade. Are you fucking kidding?

He tries to group himself with others but he an apologist for Islamic terrorists they are not. At pains to forgive their barbarism in his desperation. Sad and ill person

Edited 7 hours ago by whelk

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Here’s a thought for those still supporting Netanyahu. Using his logic, whenever you criticise Keir Starmer and his government, you are anti-British.

Are you drunk? You’re making absolutely no sense. For all of your embarrassing moments on here of which there are many, this is something Special 

Edited 6 hours ago by Turkish

[egg]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Here’s a thought for those still supporting Netanyahu. Using his logic, whenever you criticise Keir Starmer and his government, you are anti-British.

I'm not sure who is on here now. Hypo was but won't say what his view is now, but I'm not sure who else may be.

Regardless, and whilst I share your view that the behaviour of the IDF/Israeli government is abhorrent, some of your comments recently are frankly batshit and you'd do well to think before posting imo. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not sure who is on here now. Hypo was but won't say what his view is now, but I'm not sure who else may be.

Regardless, and whilst I share your view that the behaviour of the IDF/Israeli government is abhorrent, some of your comments recently are frankly batshit and you'd do well to think before posting imo. 

🎣

[egg]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

🎣

I'm assuming your refusal to condemn the IDF behaviour means you support it. Feel free to correct me if I assume incorrectly though. 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, egg said:

I'm assuming your refusal to condemn the IDF behaviour means you support it. Feel free to correct me if I assume incorrectly though. 

Happy for you to provide evidence of my support for Netanyahu. 

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

Look, please let's not go down fucking straw man's on how we'd like to be killed.

I already made up my mind when I saw Mr and Mrs Smith. I’ve been trying to get Angelina on board but she’s not replying to my tweets.

[egg]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Happy for you to provide evidence of my support for Netanyahu. 

There's 95 pages mate, feel free to quote where you have spoken out against the Israeli government actions. 

To clarify, do you think their current/recent behaviour is wrong? It's a simple yes or no. 

[egg]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

I already made up my mind when I saw Mr and Mrs Smith. I’ve been trying to get Angelina on board but she’s not replying to my tweets.

And who says there's not a good way to go. 

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

And who says there's not a good way to go. 

Hypo - Be honest, if this was the method slated on the assisted dying bill, you’d be supporting it.

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, egg said:

There's 95 pages mate, feel free to quote where you have spoken out against the Israeli government actions. 

To clarify, do you think their current/recent behaviour is wrong? It's a simple yes or no. 

"I'm not sure who is on here now. Hypo was" 

That's your words and your statement not mine. It's not for me to prove something that you have said. "Hypo was" supporting Netanyahu. Put up or shut up. 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

Hypo - Be honest, if this was the method slated on the assisted dying bill, you’d supporting it.

I'd sign up to receive the assistance myself. 

[egg]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

"I'm not sure who is on here now. Hypo was" 

That's your words and your statement not mine. It's not for me to prove something that you have said. "Hypo was" supporting Netanyahu. Put up or shut up. 

You're tedious. The thread is littered with your refusal to condemn the IDF actions. If I'm wrong, quote your own words.

If you are now joining others and condemning them, you can say so. Obviously you can't if you support their behaviour though. 

Put up or shut up. 

[whelk]

Anyone up for bamboo shoots growing up your arse as a death of choice?

[Lighthouse]

3 minutes ago, whelk said:

Anyone up for bamboo shoots growing up your arse as a death of choice?

That’s in between rabies and calling the mother in law a fat whore in my preferred order of ways to depart this life.

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, egg said:

You're tedious. The thread is littered with your refusal to condemn the IDF actions. If I'm wrong, quote your own words.

If you are now joining others and condemning them, you can say so. Obviously you can't if you support their behaviour though. 

Put up or shut up. 

Hilarious. In what way is not engaging in a conversation about the IDF with you supporting Netanyahu? It isn't and you can't point to any post of mine that says I have. I'd rather you didn't lie about me. 

Edited 6 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Turkish]

17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I already made up my mind when I saw Mr and Mrs Smith. I’ve been trying to get Angelina on board but she’s not replying to my tweets.

Always thought she looked like she needed a good wash. Although preferable to being beheaded 

[egg]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Hilarious. In what way is not engaging in a conversation about the IDF with you supporting Netanyahu? It isn't and you have can't point to any post of kine that says I have. I'd rather you didn't lie about me. 

You've been an IDF apologist throughout. Various countries are now speaking out and describing the IDF behaviour as unacceptable. I'm merely trying to establish if you still refuse to condemn a murderous regime (of which Netanyahu is a part). My instinct is that your view hasn't changed. 

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

You've been an IDF apologist throughout. Various countries are now speaking out and describing the IDF behaviour as unacceptable. I'm merely trying to establish if you still refuse to condemn a murderous regime (of which Netanyahu is a part). My instinct is that your view hasn't changed. 

You're trying to bait me into a tedious argument with you by making up lies that I support Netanyahu. I haven't and I don't and your statement about me is false. 

My views are well established and haven't changed since my first post on this topic on page 10.

Edited 6 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

SOG has completely turned into a mad cunt. Imagine if it was one of his daughters at the peace festival beheaded whilst others filmed and laughed. His eulogy would be “at least she had a quick peaceful death with no fear. You got to admire those Hamas cunts they don’t draw it out, not like soldiers bombing terrorist hideouts”

 

He’s had a tough week. First off his comments about Asian women not being able to write English now this bizarre rant which has is just nutjob level and kind of makes any jibes about Nic being mental as pretty hypocritical, which it was any given his previous meltdowns about mental health. For someone that spends so much time trying to convince people he’s one of the good guys in life he seems to fail at it with alarming regularity 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He’s had a tough week. First off his comments about Asian women not being able to write English now this bizarre rant which has is just nutjob level and kind of makes any jibes about Nic being mental as pretty hypocritical, which it was any given his previous meltdowns about mental health. For someone that spends so much time trying to convince people he’s one of the good guys in life he seems to fail at it with alarming regularity 

Looks like I picked the wrong week to catch up on some forum threads. SOG has deteriorated badly, and he held appalling views before.

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

Anyone up for bamboo shoots growing up your arse as a death of choice?

That's a Friday night for some people.

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Always thought she looked like she needed a good wash. Although preferable to being beheaded 

Guillotine or knife?

[Turkish]

24 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Guillotine or knife?

Depends who’s holding the knife. If it’s a Muslim then there fine, French fells on the guillotine it’s in out