The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

And the fact it’s a senior labour figure, not some career diplomat nobody has heard of. Add in the fact that it involves Epstein & appears that Starmer ignored others with reservations, it could well be pretty serious for Starmer.
 

Labour are a bit queasy about changing leaders, I’ve no doubt the Tories would be looking to ditch someone who had a first 12 months like this. It’s been an absolute shit show, nobody can have  thought he’d be this useless. 

I don't think he'll be in charge for the next election -something that was inconceivable when they got in.

[iansums]

7 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

This is with a massive run up. They had been holding lots of meetings to firm up their strategy before getting into power.

They had a strategy?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 minutes ago, iansums said:

They had a strategy?

They were going to hit the ground running with it. Rather than crash into the ground, and burst into flames with no sign of it.

[AlexLaw76]

1 year in...Adults something something

 

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

1 year in...Adults something something

 

Jesus, your like those annoying mates who say a joke that's not funny and no-one responds, so then they repeat it multiple times until someone has to tell you they heard it the first time, and it wasn't funny then.

#martino

[Lord Duckhunter]

11 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

1 year in...Adults something something

 

Tim Shipman said yesterday that they are reminding him of the Tories in 2022, only difference is, they’d been in power 12 years, not 12 months….😂😂

[Holmes_and_Watson]

12 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

1 year in...Adults something something

 

More that the factions already inherent in all groups are vying for control. Labour's left and right have been at war for ages now.

I read a passing headline suggesting that the frontrunners for deputy are more on Starmer's side of things.

So no surprise to see those on the wrong side of their political purge look to reset the balance.

Also no surprise to hear moans from backbenchers, who always feel unloved because they're not running things. Knives out for Morgan McSweeney as someone they as behind d things they don't like.

Starmer presenting his opponents with open goals when economic growth has faltered gives them plenty of encouragement.

[Wade Garrett]

We all knew that Rayner and Mandelson wouldn’t last.  We all know that Starmer won’t last.  My fear is someone on the left will take over and fuck things up even more than they are now.

Ideally, somehow, an election will be called early.  I’m not sure what in what scenario this could happen though.

These chumps make the Tories look competent.

[hypochondriac]

8 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

We all knew that Rayner and Mandelson wouldn’t last.  We all know that Starmer won’t last.  My fear is someone on the left will take over and fuck things up even more than they are now.

Ideally, somehow, an election will be called early.  I’m not sure what in what scenario this could happen though.

These chumps make the Tories look competent.

Zero chance there's an early election. No way are they giving up power voluntarily. Like you say, we need to cross our fingers that any damage they do during the rest of their tenure is not too terrible. Long way to go still.

[aintforever]

Whilst I despise them, I wouldn’t actually be bothered if Reform win the next election. If we get PR it will be curtains for the two main parties, the Red v Blue bollocks needs consigning to history.

[Gloucester Saint]

On 12/09/2025 at 14:28, hypochondriac said:

I don't think he'll be in charge for the next election -something that was inconceivable when they got in.

Streeting or Burnham

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Streeting or Burnham

I've always liked Burnham. He might be shit but likability and perceived authenticity counts for a lot. If he can win a seat I reckon he'd be a good shout.

Edited 22 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I've always liked Burnham. He might be shit but liability and perceived authenticity counts for a lot. If he can win a seat I reckon he'd be a good shout.

At least he doesn’t come across as an absolute prick which is makes him better than most of them. Thats how bad it’s got, all we’re wanting a bloke who isn’t a complete cock to be PM

[Farmer Saint]

Burnham because he's proper left.

[Farmer Saint]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

At least he doesn’t come across as an absolute prick which is makes him better than most of them. Thats how bad it’s got, all we’re wanting a bloke who isn’t a complete cock to be PM

We haven't had one since John Major TBF.

Maybe a bit harsh on May actually.

Edited 22 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Farmer Saint said:

We haven't had one since John Major TBF.

Maybe a bit harsh on May actually.

Was just about to say May. She was just a bit of an oddball.

[Turkish]

13 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

We haven't had one since John Major TBF.

Maybe a bit harsh on May actually.

May was quite genuine but was given a hospital pass the rest of them are cocks

[iansums]

9 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Burnham because he's proper left.

Streeting, because Burnham is proper left. I have a lot of time for Streeting, very impressed by him.

[badgerx16]

16 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Burnham...

It's under way.

Edited 5 hours ago by badgerx16

[Wade Garrett]

20 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I've always liked Burnham. He might be shit but likability and perceived authenticity counts for a lot. If he can win a seat I reckon he'd be a good shout.

Covering up for the grooming gangs pretty much rules him out.