The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[tdmickey3]

5 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

 

Almost funny

[Sir Ralph]

1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Depends where you went - Sussex, Essex, possibly LSE of old (not now) known to be left wing. Exeter, Royal Holloway, Warwick - the biggest student societies were Conservatives and the academic payroll reflect this.

I went to a northern red brick uni.

[badgerx16]

I can still remember the Medical Virology lecture where the lecturer said "Forget measles and polio, let's consider the application of Marxist ideology in the pathology lab".

 

The political influence of a higher education institute may affect an individual for perhaps 2 elections post graduation, but surely after that their voting preference is going to be more influenced by the "offer" in manifestos and lived experience.

Edited yesterday at 12:56 by badgerx16

[AlexLaw76]

Starmer’s position of “sharing your anger” about his mate is a bit much.

Also, what is the point of security vetting if a pretty blatant lie can make any findings irrelevant 

[Sir Ralph]

40 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Bullshit you went to Uni 😂

I know, bit like your "job" I suppose. 

Edited yesterday at 13:04 by Sir Ralph

[whelk]

My missus just said she didn’t understand why everyone is making such a thing over this, has she missed something? Obviously the desperate to be outraged will but I generally couldn’t give a fuck either. 

[egg]

One of his MP's saying his position is untenable. Hard to disagree. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czx3lq460n6t?post=asset%3Af788cad8-ca7a-4ec9-bd6b-3f1ab037579e#post

 

[hypochondriac]

15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Starmer’s position of “sharing your anger” about his mate is a bit much.

Also, what is the point of security vetting if a pretty blatant lie can make any findings irrelevant 

Indeed. My impression was that links were found and then they just took Mandy's word for it and disregarded what was found. 

[egg]

Just now, whelk said:

My missus just said she didn’t understand why everyone is making such a thing over this, has she missed something? Obviously the desperate to be outraged will but I generally couldn’t give a fuck either. 

It's a judgement thing for me, and that leads to trust & confidence. 

[whelk]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Indeed. My impression was that links were found and then they just took Mandy's word for it and disregarded what was found. 

Have you got your sandwich board out decrying the greatest scandal the world has ever known yet?

[Farmer Saint]

16 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I know, bit like your "job" I suppose. 

"Jobs" plural, liar.

[whelk]

Just now, egg said:

It's a judgement thing for me, and that leads to trust & confidence. 

Fucking naive to think this is exceptional stuff. Don’t disagree shit judgment but the average Joe won’t care much

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Have you got your sandwich board out decrying the greatest scandal the world has ever known yet?

He's got his wife out in her hijab wearing it for him.

[egg]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Have you got your sandwich board out decrying the greatest scandal the world has ever known yet?

It's the "biggest scandal since Profumo" which tickled me. Feck me. 

[egg]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Fucking naive to think this is exceptional stuff. Don’t disagree shit judgment but the average Joe won’t care much

The knives are out for Starmer, so I think it's a kind of last straw thing. If he'd been performing well, I think the reaction wouldn't have been as extreme. 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, whelk said:

Have you got your sandwich board out decrying the greatest scandal the world has ever known yet?

Will it be a load of nothing if the PM ends up resigning? 

[rallyboy]

You can't have a party leader appointing someone who ends up in jail, they have to go.

That's why Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage both resigned when they did it....

[whelk]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Will it be a load of nothing if the PM ends up resigning? 

As Egg says the knives are out. This in isolation isn’t much of a thing….to me. A shot appointment but only an Ambassador 

[whelk]

0.9% GDP growth predicted by BofE for next year. Staggering to have this despite all the Marxist legislation passed. Maybe Ralph’s mates are just shit at their jobs and should settle for something less demanding more suited to their skills?

[Farmer Saint]

Just now, whelk said:

0.9% GDP growth predicted by BofE for next year. Staggering to have this despite all the Marxist legislation passed. Maybe Ralph’s mates are just shit at their jobs and should settle for something less demanding more suited to their skills?

Mate, they're all in Dubai quivering from inheritance tax worries.

[whelk]

As an aside I don’t get the anger towards Sir Ralph. He has some differing views to me but nothing that riles.

[Farmer Saint]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

As an aside I don’t get the anger towards Sir Ralph. He has some differing views to me but nothing that riles.

It's the constant lying, deflection and unwillingness to answer questions honestly.

Oh, and the fact that he supports and defends grifters, racists, paedophiles and rapists that irks.

Edited yesterday at 13:34 by Farmer Saint

[hypochondriac]

21 minutes ago, whelk said:

As Egg says the knives are out. This in isolation isn’t much of a thing….to me. A shot appointment but only an Ambassador 

Why are the knives out? Loads of nothings added together?

[Sir Ralph]

41 minutes ago, whelk said:

0.9% GDP growth predicted by BofE for next year. Staggering to have this despite all the Marxist legislation passed. Maybe Ralph’s mates are just shit at their jobs and should settle for something less demanding more suited to their skills?

Cut from 1.2%. 0.9% growth isnt brilliant. Oh, unemployment is up, weird, cant work out why...

Edited yesterday at 14:08 by Sir Ralph

[iansums]

45 minutes ago, whelk said:

As an aside I don’t get the anger towards Sir Ralph. He has some differing views to me but nothing that riles.

It's pathetic really isn't it. TDMickey getting all upset when Ralph simply answers his question telling him how he'd vote. Some (not all) of you on here need to show a bit more respect for people with a different opinion.

[Sir Ralph]

11 minutes ago, iansums said:

It's pathetic really isn't it. TDMickey getting all upset when Ralph simply answers his question telling him how he'd vote. Some (not all) of you on here need to show a bit more respect for people with a different opinion.

Which is why I say some of them live in an echo chamber. They only want to hear their left wing views and nothing else - everyone else is an idiot to them. Like you say not everyone but there are a few like that. A characteristic of them is they get abusive.  It is pathetic.

Edited yesterday at 14:27 by Sir Ralph

[Farmer Saint]

14 minutes ago, iansums said:

It's pathetic really isn't it. TDMickey getting all upset when Ralph simply answers his question telling him how he'd vote. Some (not all) of you on here need to show a bit more respect for people with a different opinion.

TBF, there's been much normal discussion over the past few weeks - and there has been one main reason for that. I'll give you a guess as to what that reason was.

TBF, a lot of us have Ralph on ignore now, but unfortunately others quote him so we do see his drivel every now and then.

Edited yesterday at 14:31 by Farmer Saint

[tdmickey3]

17 minutes ago, iansums said:

It's pathetic really isn't it. TDMickey getting all upset when Ralph simply answers his question telling him how he'd vote. Some (not all) of you on here need to show a bit more respect for people with a different opinion.

 

Getting upset on a forum, maybe you do but its funny to even think about that happening

Edited yesterday at 14:34 by tdmickey3

[east-stand-nic]

19 minutes ago, iansums said:

It's pathetic really isn't it. TDMickey getting all upset when Ralph simply answers his question telling him how he'd vote. Some (not all) of you on here need to show a bit more respect for people with a different opinion.

Left libtards cannot show respect for other opinions. Mental Mickey is the worst of them by far as you can see. I figure he is a very angry teenager.

[Sir Ralph]

 

4 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Left libtards cannot show respect for other opinions. Mental Mickey is the worst of them by far as you can see. I figure he is a very angry teenager.

Its farmer, SOG and Mickey. Others, you may have differences or spats but it doesnt tend to get personal or abusive. Saying people are racist, advocate sex crimes / criminals and the death of innocents is frankly embarrassing but an often reverted to strategy, all because you hold a different view. Today is a great example.

Edited yesterday at 14:42 by Sir Ralph

[iansums]

7 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

 

Getting upset on a forum, maybe you do but its funny to even think about that happening

It's rude to point

[hypochondriac]

33 minutes ago, iansums said:

It's pathetic really isn't it. TDMickey getting all upset when Ralph simply answers his question telling him how he'd vote. Some (not all) of you on here need to show a bit more respect for people with a different opinion.

100%. Not everyone BTW whelk is generally reasonable even if he fancies taken the piss on occasion. Some others can't handle different opinions.

[hypochondriac]

nic is a bit of a cunt though tbf.

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

100%. Not everyone BTW whelk is generally reasonable even if he fancies taken the piss on occasion. Some others can't handle different opinions.

Confession?

[iansums]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

100%. Not everyone BTW whelk is generally reasonable even if he fancies taken the piss on occasion. Some others can't handle different opinions.

I always find that egg is a good....erm....egg

[hypochondriac]

6 minutes ago, iansums said:

I always find that egg is a good....erm....egg

Sadly I can't share those sentiments. 

[trousers]

49 minutes ago, iansums said:

Some (not all) of you on here need to show a bit more respect for people with a different opinion

Please, no.... Where else would I go for my playground bickering entertainment...? Pound for pound, it's the best spectator sport in the world... 

Edited 23 hours ago by trousers

[badgerx16]

45 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

 

Its farmer, SOG and Mickey. Others, you may have differences or spats but it doesnt tend to get personal or abusive. Saying people are racist, advocate sex crimes / criminals and the death of innocents is frankly embarrassing but an often reverted to strategy, all because you hold a different view. Today is a great example.

What about consistently accusing others of enabling/condoning child abuse, as does the poster to whom your post was a reply ?

Edited 23 hours ago by badgerx16

[whelk]

13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Sadly I can't share those sentiments. 

You are both decent posters

[east-stand-nic]

44 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

nic is a bit of a cunt though tbf.

Using your own words....don't bring me into your conversation dickhead. 

[tdmickey3]

49 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

nic is a bit of a cunt though tbf.

 

4 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Using your own words....don't bring me into your conversation dickhead. 

I don`t always agree with hypo but on this occasion he is spot on

[Sir Ralph]

4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

 

I don`t always agree with hypo but on this occasion he is spot on

Maybe focus less on others and reflect on what people said about you. You only agree with anyone on anything when it fits in with your narrow minded view of the world and other people.

[tdmickey3]

5 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Maybe focus less on others and reflect on what people said about you. You only agree with anyone on anything when it fits in with your narrow minded view of the world and other people.

🤣

You might be bothered about what people say about you, but I don`t care what people say about me especially on a forum.

TBF Farmer summed you up earlier today so I guess you are upset by what people say but to be honest he was spot on we have all seen your posts

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Tracker here on what's been done:

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

Its odd, as going by reddit, people are saying that Labour is going to the right! 

[Sir Ralph]

6 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

🤣

You might be bothered about what people say about you, but I don`t care what people say about me especially on a forum.

TBF Farmer summed you up earlier today so I guess you are upset by what people say but to be honest he was spot on we have all seen your posts

I'm not upset as I dont attach much weight to what people like you and he say. However, I have more self awareness so when people that are more balanced say something about me I will take that onboard. Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though. A lesson for me on this forum though, as Mark Twain said: Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience

Edited 22 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I went to a northern red brick uni.

Marketisation has made universities completely different to when we studied there regardless when they were part of the public sector landscape which is not the case these days. The decisions they make now are about attracting students, both domestic and international (as these pay much higher fees) and research funding, both public and commercial, plus spin outs. No time to act on any historic inclinations around ideologies, because with no capital grants around these days, they have to raise significant funds to repay borrowings on new buildings/labs and re-invest. Effectively, they are large not for profits with marketisation elements.

In smaller and medium-sized towns, expansion has probably been too much and you get a clash of gown and town, but generally they’re an important part of local economies. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

Please, no.... Where else would I go for my playground bickering entertainment...? Pound for pound, it's the best spectator sport in the world... 

Considering the specific part of the spectator sport that brought us here... 🙂

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

Using your own words....don't bring me into your conversation dickhead. 

I was talking about you not to you. 

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

I'm not upset as I dont attach much weight to what people like you and he say. However, I have more self awareness so when people that are more balanced say something about me I will take that onboard. Enjoy keeping your head in the sand though. A lesson for me on this forum though, as Mark Twain said: Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience

I will put you on ignore then so I can take Mark Twain’s words by not arguing with you, one of the stupid people he mentions

[Weston Super Saint]

4 hours ago, egg said:

It's a judgement thing for me, and that leads to trust & confidence. 

Nah.  Starmer should be celebrated for this.  He sent an utter cunt to be the ambassador for a country full of wankers.  He put the right person in the right job to suck up to Trump.