The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[iansums]

10 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Have a look at what Whitey Grandad just posted on the Other Games thread on the main board from his trip to Argentina - puts the hot dogs at SMS in the shade…

Wow!

[sadoldgit]

Should the mods bin off those who started it by calling me a nonce sympathiser etc? No?Why only me, care to explain?
 

No nic, the mods should bin you off because you are the biggest WUM on the forum and you post laughing emojis on posts about murdered women and children in Palestine, innocent murdered people in America and overt racism by the POTUS.

This is not normal behaviour. These things are not funny nic. Seriously.

You are sick, nic, and the mods would be doing you a favour by preventing you spreading your mental health issues here. Get help.

[iansums]

9 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Should the mods bin off those who started it by calling me a nonce sympathiser etc? No?Why only me, care to explain?
 

No nic, the mods should bin you off because you are the biggest WUM on the forum and you post laughing emojis on posts about murdered women and children in Palestine, innocent murdered people in America and overt racism by the POTUS.

This is not normal behaviour. These things are not funny nic. Seriously.

You are sick, nic, and the mods would be doing you a favour by preventing you spreading your mental health issues here. Get help.

Why keep posting about him? As for biggest WUM on the forum, well it’s a close run thing.

[sadoldgit]

8 minutes ago, iansums said:

Why keep posting about him? As for biggest WUM on the forum, well it’s a close run thing.

Why pick me out when plenty of others do so as well?

[iansums]

18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Why pick me out when plenty of others do so as well?

Fair point. Why do you ALL keep posting about him?

[sadoldgit]

36 minutes ago, iansums said:

Fair point. Why do you ALL keep posting about him?

If you have read any of his posts how do you not know?

He started off by telling us he had the greatest intellect and was the most travelled poster on here and it went downhill from there.

Edited yesterday at 14:17 by sadoldgit

[Turkish]

42 minutes ago, iansums said:

Fair point. Why do you ALL keep posting about him?

He loves the attention that’s why. Biggest narcissist you’ll ever come across 

[Lord Duckhunter]

3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Should the mods bin off those who started it by calling me a nonce sympathiser etc? No?Why only me, care to explain?
 

No nic, the mods should bin you off because you are the biggest WUM on the forum and you post laughing emojis on posts about murdered women and children in Palestine, innocent murdered people in America and overt racism by the POTUS.

This is not normal behaviour. These things are not funny nic. Seriously.

You are sick, nic, and the mods would be doing you a favour by preventing you spreading your mental health issues here. Get help.

Why don’t you just put him on ignore, you weirdo…

[Weston Super Saint]

8 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Why don’t you just put him on ignore, you weirdo…

Or at least claim to and then carry on reading his posts - at least when he does that he only replies to them when he forgets they're supposed to be on ignore.

[sadoldgit]

27 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Why don’t you just put him on ignore, you weirdo…

Why don’t you say the same thing to the others who respond to him in the same fashion? Weirdo.

[sadoldgit]

No surprise to see McSweeney fall on his sword. A political commentator said recently that he offered up a short list of two to Starmer (Mandelson and George Osbourne(?) if I heard that correctly) with his own recommendation being the former. Unless they (the government) are Liz Truss/Boris Johnson grade thick you would imagine that the commission will find this is the case in the enquiry. 
Those of the further left persuasion will be delighted as McSweeney is far too centrist for their liking (as is Starmer). 

Strange that many of the people who are now calling out the Mandelson appointment as a disaster either didn’t say a word at the time or actually supported it. Farage gave it a glowing thumbs up as did several Tories. 
While they are all busy doing “politics” perhaps someone should be looking at the files with a view to finding criminality with regards to sex trafficking, paedophilia, insider trading, disclosure of state secrets etc.

Whatever you think of Keir Starmer, he is a decent, honourable man. I wouldn’t be surprised if he follows McSweeney out of the door soon.

Edited 21 hours ago by sadoldgit
Typo

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

No surprise to see McSweeney fall on his sword. A political commentator said recently that he offered up a short list of two to Starmer (Mandelson and George Osbourne(?) if I heard that correctly) with his own recommendation being the former. Unless they (the government) are Liz Truss/Boris Johnson grade thick you would imagine that the commission will find this is the case in the enquiry. 
Those of the further left persuasion will be delighted as McSweeney is far too centrist for their liking (as is Starmer). 

Strange that many of the people who are now calling out the Mandelson appointment as a disaster either didn’t say a word at the time or actually supported it. Farage gave it a glowing thumbs up as did several Tories. 
While they are all busy doing “politics” perhaps someone should be looking at the files with a view to finding criminality with regards to sex traffiking, paedophilia, insider trading, disclosure of state secrets etc.

Perhaps Starmer will apologise for believing Farage's endorsement tomorrow. 🙂

Do try and and not mention your usual suspects in every post SOG. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Strange that many of the people who are now calling out the Mandelson appointment now as a disaster either didn’t say a word at the time or actually supported it. Farage gave it a glowing thumbs up as did several Tories. 
While they are all busy doing “politics” perhaps someone should be looking at the files with a view to finding criminality with regards to sex traffiking, paedophilia, insider trading, disclosure of state secrets etc.

What a load of old pony. This is down to Starmer 100%, trying to deflect it to Nigel or the Tories is pathetic. Maurice Glasman, the only labour politician invited to Trumps inauguration, claims he was told to basically shut up, when he advised.”Withdraw Peter Mandelson. He is the wrong man at the wrong time in the wrong place.” If Starmer saw that memo, his position is untenable…

Edited 21 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter

[Holmes_and_Watson]

9 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

What a load of old pony. This is down to Starmer 100%, trying to deflect it to Nigel or the Tories is pathetic. Maurice Glasman, the only labour politician invited to Trumps inauguration, claims he was told to basically shut up, when he advised.”Withdraw Peter Mandelson. He is the wrong man at the wrong time in the wrong place.” If Starmer saw that memo, his position is untenable…

Since McSweeney is credited for being behind Starmer, this will be a big blow for him personally and professionally. He will also be seen as a more isolated, vulnerable figure to the various circling parties looking for his job.

But Starmer can throw as many people under the bus as he likes. He can try and pretend he's sorry for believing Mandelson's lies. As opposed to accepting responsibility and apologising for that. Even if McSweeney says it was all him, and Starmer nodded it through, only goes so far.

But all the documentation, and trails, should be getting reviewed. The extent of Starmer's involvement will be in there, as well as where others fell on the issue. Whether or not, we'll get to know it, might be an issue though. At least Starmer didn't get to choose what to review/release, as was his first plan.

[AlexLaw76]

I’m sure she will be consistent, like all those in / around Government

 

Edited 20 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I’m sure she will be consistent, like all those in / around Government

 

Weren’t a few on here whinging about an unelected prime minister too? 

[pingpong]

13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I’m sure she will be consistent, like all those in / around Government

 

Starmer won an election didn't he? 

[Weston Super Saint]

21 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Starmer won an election didn't he? 

And when he is replaced his replacement won't have won an election, just like Sunak, which is the point.

[harvey]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

No surprise to see McSweeney fall on his sword. A political commentator said recently that he offered up a short list of two to Starmer (Mandelson and George Osbourne(?) if I heard that correctly) with his own recommendation being the former. Unless they (the government) are Liz Truss/Boris Johnson grade thick you would imagine that the commission will find this is the case in the enquiry. 
Those of the further left persuasion will be delighted as McSweeney is far too centrist for their liking (as is Starmer). 

Strange that many of the people who are now calling out the Mandelson appointment as a disaster either didn’t say a word at the time or actually supported it. Farage gave it a glowing thumbs up as did several Tories. 
While they are all busy doing “politics” perhaps someone should be looking at the files with a view to finding criminality with regards to sex trafficking, paedophilia, insider trading, disclosure of state secrets etc.

Whatever you think of Keir Starmer, he is a decent, honourable man. I wouldn’t be surprised if he follows McSweeney out of the door soon.

Starmer decent and honorable????....! 🙄.Jesus!

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

3 minutes ago, harvey said:

Starmer decent and honorable????....! 🙄.Jesus!

Where would you place him in terms of decency and honour with his current peers?

Edited 20 hours ago by JohnnyShearer2.0

[Weston Super Saint]

36 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Where would you place him in terms of decency and honour with his current peers?

He's probably below Theresa May, just above Liz Truss.

[ChrisPY]

4 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

He's probably below Theresa May, just above Liz Truss.

That’s tonight’s wank sorted.

[pingpong]

53 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

And when he is replaced his replacement won't have won an election, just like Sunak, which is the point.

Why would he be replaced? Have i missed some big news? 

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, pingpong said:

Why would he be replaced? Have i missed some big news? 

It certainly seems that way! About a week of it ...

[trousers]

2 hours ago, ChrisPY said:

That’s tonight’s wank sorted.

 

[AlexLaw76]

More resignations 

for Soggy - Is the new broom still sweeping clean?

[trousers]

13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

More resignations 

for Soggy - Is the new broom still sweeping clean?

I fear the Starmer defenders might run out of 'Whataboutery' cards this week...

[Turkish]

50 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

More resignations 

for Soggy - Is the new broom still sweeping clean?

The grown ups are leaving the room.....

[iansums]

16 hours ago, ChrisPY said:

That’s tonight’s wank sorted.

Coffee spilt!😀

[AlexLaw76]

17 minutes ago, Turkish said:

The grown ups are leaving the room.....

Off that we are not getting a minute-by-minute in this.

 

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Off that we are not getting a minute-by-minute in this.

 

I expected 50 updates every time I look back on the lounge including dozens of links with short comments, but nothing. Very odd 

[Gloucester Saint]

27 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Off that we are not getting a minute-by-minute in this.

 

To be fair to the Labour voters/supporters on here, they didn’t seem to want Mandelson returning in the first place, it was a very poor decision on top of a string of politically inept judgements, seemingly inadequate due diligence and Starmer has done what PMs have done since WW2 when they’re in the clag and cut the people around them who were fermenting a wing of their party, which McSweeney especially seemed to be.

There will clearly be a leadership contest by the summer. They’ve not had any nuclear Truss/Black Friday epic fails but a leaky, piecemeal approach to governing which will grated on most people I suspect.

Not really a lot anyone else can anyone can add to that 🤷 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

More resignations 

for Soggy - Is the new broom still sweeping clean?

With SOG waiting for the guardian to give him a thought, we can at least know what No 10 is doing through their Comms Director....oh.... I guess he wasn't keen on the messages he had to deliver...

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

To be fair to the Labour voters/supporters on here, they didn’t seem to want Mandelson returning in the first place, it was a very poor decision on top of a string of politically inept judgements, seemingly inadequate due diligence and Starmer has done what PMs have done since WW2 when they’re in the clag and cut the people around them who were fermenting a wing of their party, which McSweeney especially seemed to be.

There will clearly be a leadership contest by the summer. They’ve not had any nuclear Truss/Black Friday epic fails but a leaky, piecemeal approach to governing which will grated on most people I suspect.

Not really a lot anyone else can anyone can add to that 🤷 

Due to the bots in bold, it was the waste of a massive opportunity to secure the centre/ right of labour, centre ground and left of the Conservatives as they were having an identity crisis of the right. It was going to take time, and with lots of internal fighting, but it's been a bit squandered. 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Due to the bots in bold, it was the waste of a massive opportunity to secure the centre/ right of labour, centre ground and left of the Conservatives as they were having an identity crisis of the right. It was going to take time, and with lots of internal fighting, but it's been a bit squandered. 

Labour left is an absolute waste of space as well, just as bad and wasteful as the Conservative ERG, or what remains (pun unintended) of it. 

[Gloucester Saint]

Sarwar about to call for Starmer to go. Can’t see how he survives this. 

In a way it would probably help Labour as the Mail (especially) and other red tops have been gunning for him since day 1 because he prosecuted and banged up the rogue elements of their profession, which has been further fuelled by plenty of unforced errors.

Not to say that his successor will get a red carpet laid out but they won’t have that specific baggage either, and the other parties have all admitted they are a process of transition themselves. I’d advise them to go for Streeting.

Edited 1 hour ago by Gloucester Saint

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

More resignations 

for Soggy - Is the new broom still sweeping clean?

I don’t know. I’m waiting for The Guardian to tell me what to think.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Sarwar about to call for Starmer to go. Can’t see how he survives this. 

Well, if anyone knows about being utterly ineffectual, it's Sarwar. 

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Off that we are not getting a minute-by-minute in this.

 

You normally get your updates from X

[iansums]

22 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I don’t know. I’m waiting for The Guardian to tell me what to think.

Do they also tell you who can vote?

[sadoldgit]

18 hours ago, harvey said:

Starmer decent and honorable????....! 🙄.Jesus!

He is. 

[iansums]

I see Starmer's press secretary Tim Allen also resigned this morning. Going to be really tough for him now, not having Buzz Lightyear to advise him.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

I don’t know. I’m waiting for The Guardian to tell me what to think.

It'd be funny if it wasn't true