The Reform Thread

[whelk]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

One again you have missed my point entirely. No. In fact I suspect you know full well what my point is and you know I am 100% correct but because of your silly bias views and ways, you will never bring yourself to accept I of all people am indeed correct. A very sad way to live. I am genuinely sad for you. 

Boohoo politicians don’t care for me boohoo. Don’t be sad for me, my life is just fine. Unlike you I don’t project my discontent on the govt not delivering personally for me. 
You don’t seem to understand these deep societal issues such as immigration, wealth inequality, aging populations etc are a challenge in all western countries and not simple to fix as Reform would have you believe.

And it is borne out in this forum that you seem unable to process information - brandishing many as looney lefties whereas if you were more alert you’d have a better grasp of what Gloucester, Egg, Badger and others posters views were. Not as convenient for you though and as I said you and SOG are different sides of the same coin. He screams far-right at every one, you scream lefties.

[revolution saint]

I scream for ice cream

[whelk]

How predictable the king of the air miles thick as fuck would use a laughing emoji that troubles him so much.

How’s the diet pal?

[Gloucester Saint]

Reform’s King of DOGE is not keen on picking up dog 💩 it seems. And I suspect more personnel blow-ups in the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c991epp257lo

[whelk]

So Warwickshire council now has an 18 yo leader. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93knke95peo

 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

So Warwickshire council now has an 18 yo leader. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93knke95peo

 

Scary, and not that far from here. He might be the most mature 18 year old ever, and it’s true that he can legally drive, vote, smoke, drink alcohol. But that’s light years from controlling a multi-million pound budget with thousands of staff delivering key public services that we rely on which in some cases are the difference between life and death, and the sheer complexity coming with that. Very difficult to scrutinise effectively for us let alone a lad that age who hasn’t lived yet really. 

Edited 26 June, 2025 by Gloucester Saint

[whelk]

16 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Scary, and not that far from here. He might be the most mature 18 year old ever, and it’s true that he can legally drive, vote, smoke, drink alcohol. But that’s light years from controlling a multi-million pound budget with thousands of staff delivering key public services that we rely on which in some cases are the difference between life and death, and the sheer complexity coming with that. Very difficult to scrutinise effectively for us let alone a lad that age who hasn’t lived yet really. 

Absolutely no way at 18 he can have the wisdom to run an organisation that size.

Still this is what you get when you get the moronic ‘well the others haven’t sorted it’ view. 
 

Doctors haven’t cured me so I am going to the mad woman for a dose of leeches

[whelk]

BBC really should invite him on Question Time for people to see how he performs 

[rallyboy]

The talking stops, now we get to see Reform actually running things, showing us how competent they really are.

Should be interesting.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

3 hours ago, whelk said:

So Warwickshire council now has an 18 yo leader. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93knke95peo

 

Vote reform, get resignations all over the place. This is why they won't get near government. 

[rallyboy]

Is there a news blackout on negative stories about Reform?

The BBC, who have done more to promote Reform than anyone, was wall-to-wall Farage when they won local seats, but today, nothing - glossing over that Reform have failed at the first hurdle and already lost two out of two.

If it were Labour or Conservative losing seats immediately, it would be headlines.

#balance

 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, rallyboy said:

Is there a news blackout on negative stories about Reform?

The BBC, who have done more to promote Reform than anyone, was wall-to-wall Farage when they won local seats, but today, nothing - glossing over that Reform have failed at the first hurdle and already lost two out of two.

If it were Labour or Conservative losing seats immediately, it would be headlines.

#balance

 

Tim Davie at it again https://bylinetimes.com/2025/06/09/bbc-news-tim-davie-robbie-gibb-reform-voters-nigel-farage-trust/

Question is when the tabloids realise the Tories are a busted flush with Badenoch and 85% of their voters have gone or are going to Reform unless those papers turn on Farage. Penny hasn’t dropped yet and get the sense the Telegraph might go Reform. Maybe the Sun. Mail is the bigger one though readership-wise, albeit a fraction of what it used to be.

[ecuk268]

Back down to 4 MPs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78n1dxl8wwo

[whelk]

51 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Back down to 4 MPs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78n1dxl8wwo

A bullying, woman beating fraudster. Time for a change!

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, ecuk268 said:

Back down to 4 MPs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78n1dxl8wwo

'In statement, McMurdock said his business dealings had been assessed by "appropriately qualified professionals" and "absolute compliance was confirmed".'

It was a free for all as banks and governments dodged together rules to apply, keeping companies going without the requirement of lots of paperwork as proof.

Cue tons of fraudsters dusting off old companies, networks of companies and recently set up ones with delusions on future earnings. 

So, just because he got the money doesn't mean for a second he's not completely at it. Nearly all knew exactly what they were doing. His background in banking makes it certain he did.

3 hours ago, whelk said:

A bullying, woman beating fraudster. Time for a change!

And of course, this tells you all you need to know about him.

https://news.sky.com/story/reform-mp-james-mcmurdock-was-jailed-for-repeatedly-kicking-girlfriend-court-records-show-13258311

[whelk]

4 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

'In statement, McMurdock said his business dealings had been assessed by "appropriately qualified professionals" and "absolute compliance was confirmed".'

It was a free for all as banks and governments dodged together rules to apply, keeping companies going without the requirement of lots of paperwork as proof.

Cue tons of fraudsters dusting off old companies, networks of companies and recently set up ones with delusions on future earnings. 

So, just because he got the money doesn't mean for a second he's not completely at it. Nearly all knew exactly what they were doing. His background in banking makes it certain he did.

And of course, this tells you all you need to know about him.

https://news.sky.com/story/reform-mp-james-mcmurdock-was-jailed-for-repeatedly-kicking-girlfriend-court-records-show-13258311

21 days prison for just shoving his girlfriend. Law was out to get the poor innocent fellow

Edited 5 July, 2025 by whelk

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

21 days prison for just shoving his girlfriend. Law was out to get the poor innocent fellow

Exactly. Just a "teenage indiscretion."

Pay no mind that his recollection bears no resemblance to what he was convicted for.

[rallyboy]

If anything, he's the victim here, just like poor Tommy - and that mad arsonist women who wanted hotels burned down in the middle of a riot.

 

[egg]

11 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Exactly. Just a "teenage indiscretion."

Pay no mind that his recollection bears no resemblance to what he was convicted for.

Indeed "I'm so very remorseful of the the thing I now dispute that I did". Yeah, proper remorse that is mate. 

[badgerx16]

Reform "like a stuck record"

 

[whelk]

9 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Reform "like a stuck record"

 

lol at @east-stand-nic who has a hard on for this ‘fresh approach’ to politics

[rallyboy]

Would the Reform voters in Staffordshire like to buy any magic beans?

I won't call them a bunch of fuckwits as calling stupid people stupid would be patronising, and they are the victims of a scam.

Not for the first time I suspect, in most cases.

[east-stand-nic]

11 hours ago, whelk said:

lol at @east-stand-nic who has a hard on for this ‘fresh approach’ to politics

Blimey, I really have got to you and under your skin haven't I. Perhaps I should back off making you look like a fool so much. I fear you may have a breakdown.

[whelk]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

Blimey, I really have got to you and under your skin haven't I. Perhaps I should back off making you look like a fool so much. I fear you may have a breakdown.

In fact I am so thick you have never once taken a point I have made and debated it. Not because you can't. No sir. What an utter dope you are. 

Learn. It's called debate.

[badgerx16]

Farage has stated, as a fact, that "sex offenders and rapists" are included in the people permitted to come to the UK after the MoD data leak. When asked on Times Radio about where the evidence for this claim is, Sarah Pochin MP said it was obvious because Afghan men hold women in lower regard than white British men.

Edited 17 July, 2025 by badgerx16

[Farmer Saint]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Farage has stated, as a fact, that "sex offenders and rapists" are included in the people permitted to come to the UK after the MoD data leak. When asked on Times Radio about where the evidence for this claim is, Sarah Pochin MP said it was obvious because Afghan men hold women in lower regard than white British men.

Wow.

And posh white women take it up the arse if were gonna do racial stereotypes.

 

In all seriousness, if she wants to become that dumb, racist bint off The Apprentice then she's going the right way about it.

Edited 17 July, 2025 by Farmer Saint

[whelk]

13 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

In all seriousness, if she wants to become that dumb, racist bint off The Apprentice then she's going the right way about it.

Glad you didn’t use the H trigger word for SOG

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Farage has stated, as a fact, that "sex offenders and rapists" are included in the people permitted to come to the UK after the MoD data leak. When asked on Times Radio about where the evidence for this claim is, Sarah Pochin MP said it was obvious because Afghan men hold women in lower regard than white British men.

If Griffin had said that, there would have been condemnation from right across the red tops (and the BBC before Davie’s policy of cuddling up to Farage which that little brownose Chris Mason is following avidly) but listen to the silence.

Reform = BNP, Nick Griffin 100% would’ve said something as openly racist and likely factually incorrect. MoD fucked up massively but it’s not a valid excuse for populists to lie through their teeth.

There you go Soggy, there’s some red meat 😉

Edited 17 July, 2025 by Gloucester Saint

[badgerx16]

I apologise, she actually said that Afghan men have a lower regard for raping women than white British men.

[sadoldgit]

What “Nige” and his acolytes seem completely to unable to understand  is that women have problems with men, no matter what their skin colour or religion is. But it suits their agenda to paint certain type of men as the main offenders. The domestic violence against women stats would tell a different story. Women are still more likely to be sexually assaulted by a family member than by someone arriving here on a rubber dinghy, but there are no votes in stating the obvious.

[whelk]

2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

What “Nige” and his acolytes seem completely to unable to understand  is that women have problems with men, no matter what their skin colour or religion is. But it suits their agenda to paint certain type of men as the main offenders. The domestic violence against women stats would tell a different story. Women are still more likely to be sexually assaulted by a family member than by someone arriving here on a rubber dinghy, but there are no votes in stating the obvious.

You must really hate that grooming gangs get investigated and prosecuted. Bloody anti immigrant agenda

[Gloucester Saint]

15 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I apologise, she actually said that Afghan men have a lower regard for raping women than white British men.

Completely fucking racist either way. Mind you, Mike Amesbury is equally culpable for the assault on a member of the public that allowed her BNP/NF ilk to be elected in the first place. 

[benjii]

[sadoldgit]

On 17/07/2025 at 23:38, whelk said:

You must really hate that grooming gangs get investigated and prosecuted. Bloody anti immigrant agenda

Why should I? My understanding is that the crime of sexual assault is equally as serious if committed by a white British male as if it is committed by someone with brown skin, black skin, by a Muslim or by someone  following of any other religion. What is yours and why should someone’s immigration status make any difference?

Edited 19 July, 2025 by sadoldgit

[whelk]

52 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Why should I? My understanding is that the crime of sexual assault is equally as serious if committed by a white British male as if it is committed by someone with brown skin, black skin, by a Muslim or by someone  following of any other religion. What is yours and why should someone’s immigration status make any difference?

My point was you go out of your way to ignore evidence. You cannot be objective as the cause and being seen to support is more important to you. You just labelling people

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, whelk said:

My point was you go out of your way to ignore evidence. You cannot be objective as the cause and being seen to support is more important to you. You just labelling people

How do I ignore evidence? I have never doubted the existence of rapists and rapist gangs of different origins. My point is and always has been that if someone constantly posts about Asian rape gangs/rapists whilst ignoring white British rape gangs/rapists, that is inherently racist is it not?

Also Reform and those who share their agenda are clearly and deliberately conflating immigrants with rapists/terrorists/murderers. Again they are ignoring the fact that you are far more likely to be the victim of serious crime from the indigenous population. That doesn’t make headlines or win votes though does it? Far better to demonise a who bunch of people, most of whom are only trying to find a safer, better life for themselves and their families.

Put yourself in their shoes for a moment. How desperate would you have to be to pay a huge amount of money to attempt to cross the channel and possibly drown in the process?

If you are of the kind who will likely rape or murder someone, why not stay in mainland Europe?

The evidence so far is that the vast majority of immigrants/asylum seekers are genuine with a small minority likely to commit crime. What, exactly, am I ignoring?

Someone phoned up LBC this morning who, by his comments sounded racist. One of the points that he put to the presenter was how would he feel if an immigrant raped his 12 year old daughter. My answer would be exactly the same as anyone raping my 12 year old daughter. He, like many others, seems to think that there are some rapists are worse than others depending on their ethnicity or religion.

 

 

Edited 19 July, 2025 by sadoldgit

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

How do I ignore evidence?

I think I know this one, is it because you repeatedly call people Tommy Robinson supporters whilst ignoring the complete lack of evidence that they are?

[Lord Duckhunter]

54 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

 How desperate would you have to be to pay a huge amount of money to attempt to cross the channel and possibly drown in the process?

 

Desperate to get out of France 😂😂😂

[Lord Duckhunter]

57 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

If you are of the kind who will likely rape or murder someone, why not stay in mainland Europe?

Why, is it easier there? 
 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

Reform’s acne-stricken teenage brigade enabling the gravy train - political assistants at £150k pa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kz127pj3o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c625qr9nx0vo

‘But they’re different to the other two parties….’

PM earns £175k or so, cabinet ministers less. For £150k pa it’s not bad, Warwickshire is quite nice, even if you’d have to shave your head, get several tattoos done, drink gallons of Carling.

Edited 20 July, 2025 by Gloucester Saint

[whelk]

29 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Reform’s acne-stricken teenage brigade enabling the gravy train - political assistants at £150k pa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kz127pj3o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c625qr9nx0vo

‘But they’re different to the other two parties….’

PM earns £175k or so, cabinet ministers less. For £150k pa it’s not bad, Warwickshire is quite nice, even if you’d have to shave your head, get several tattoos done, drink gallons of Carling.

And standard MO regarding civil service/local govt officers. They could achieve so much efficiency if it wasn’t for the unelected bureaucrats thwarting them - Farage’s answer when queried about what council efficiencies they have achieved so far. Good line for the gullible thick cunts. Watch your council tax just come tumbling down and endless excuses of why it hasn’t.

[rallyboy]

They voted for a circus.  🤡

The rest of us are going to need more popcorn.

[sadoldgit]

On 19/07/2025 at 14:11, Lord Duckhunter said:

Why, is it easier there? 
 

 

No surprise to see this post from the forums biggest Farage supporter.

There would have been a number of alleged rapes and sexual assaults in Essex last week, but not one of them resulted in a certain kind of person taking to the streets and committing “mindless thuggery.” One alleged incident involving an asylum seeker and it all kicks off in Epping. Kinda proves my point doesn’t it Duckie? Still you, along with the man you want to be our next PM, are big on double standards (murder committed by Hamas bad, murder committed by the IDF good. Drink driving bad, speeding through a village good - or in your words, “fun”).

Perhaps, given you are of that mindset, you would care to explain why a sexual assault carried out by an asylum seeker is somehow worse than the same assault carried out by a white British man? Something  to do with the latter being “one of our own” maybe?

Edited 21 July, 2025 by sadoldgit

[badgerx16]

So much for DOGE-like purging of wasteful spending

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg6r7vyz4zo

"Scarborough Town Council has been asked to justify its decision to increase the town mayor's allowance by 600%, despite committing to cautious spending."

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

So much for DOGE-like purging of wasteful spending

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg6r7vyz4zo

"Scarborough Town Council has been asked to justify its decision to increase the town mayor's allowance by 600%, despite committing to cautious spending."

Do as I say not say as I do.

Different to the other parties my arse. Actually they are different, even more in it for their donors and friends. More fool the twits who voted for them. 

[rallyboy]

For city trader Farage, Reform is nothing more than his latest business - it's bankrolled by donors who guide policy, whether it's promoting fossil fuels or tax breaks, while his previous Brexit business enabled him and his trader colleagues to make hundreds of millions.

It's obvious to anyone with a brain that it's all about Nigel, but plenty are too thick to notice when they're being scammed by multi-millionaires pretending to be working class.

When a teenager is leading a county council that has a £650m budget and complex spending issues, surely even the most easily-led can hear the alarm bells? 

[east-stand-nic]

1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

For city trader Farage, Reform is nothing more than his latest business - it's bankrolled by donors who guide policy, whether it's promoting fossil fuels or tax breaks, while his previous Brexit business enabled him and his trader colleagues to make hundreds of millions.

It's obvious to anyone with a brain that it's all about Nigel, but plenty are too thick to notice when they're being scammed by multi-millionaires pretending to be working class.

When a teenager is leading a county council that has a £650m budget and complex spending issues, surely even the most easily-led can hear the alarm bells? 

Can we not say the same about those who voted Labour or Tory? yes, we can. As I have said countless times, every single one of them is corrupt and self serving. Trump, Biden, Farage, Sunak and most definitely Starmer. The only way is for uprising and a refusal to vote and to mess up the system as much as you can by doing things like refusing to pay council tax etc. Of course I will get the usual idiotic replies, but it has been the only way we have power for many a year. 

[tdmickey3]

37 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Can we not say the same about those who voted Labour or Tory? yes, we can. As I have said countless times, every single one of them is corrupt and self serving. Trump, Biden, Farage, Sunak and most definitely Starmer. The only way is for uprising and a refusal to vote and to mess up the system as much as you can by doing things like refusing to pay council tax etc. Of course I will get the usual idiotic replies, but it has been the only way we have power for many a year. 

Uprising ? Please explain, are you encouraging violence?

[whelk]

47 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Can we not say the same about those who voted Labour or Tory? yes, we can. As I have said countless times, every single one of them is corrupt and self serving. Trump, Biden, Farage, Sunak and most definitely Starmer. The only way is for uprising and a refusal to vote and to mess up the system as much as you can by doing things like refusing to pay council tax etc. Of course I will get the usual idiotic replies, but it has been the only way we have power for many a year. 

Genuinely think you have learning difficulties. Who the fuck employs you?

[whelk]

10 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Uprising ? Please explain, are you encouraging violence?

Tell ya what I ain’t gonna vote or pay my council tax. That’ll show them.