hypochondriac Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago As much as that bloke is a bellend, he really shouldn't be charged with anything. I'm fed up of the police taking an authoritarian stance on ridiculous things. 2
Turkish Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: As much as that bloke is a bellend, he really shouldn't be charged with anything. I'm fed up of the police taking an authoritarian stance on ridiculous things. Whilst i agree if that is the case then there is no consistency.
whelk Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Turkish said: Whilst i agree if that is the case then there is no consistency. You really can’t see the difference? 1
hypochondriac Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, whelk said: You really can’t see the difference? I really don't think Lucy connolly should have been jailed and certainly not for the amount of time she has been but the flip side of that is that she pleaded guilty so she kind of left it up to the system to decide. In most cases I wouldn't be jailing anyone for speech as its pathetic and certainly something that has changed for the worst in my lifetime. Chanting death to the IDF on TV is pathetic but treating the viewing public like toddlers because some people found those words a bit offensive is mad.
whelk Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I really don't think Lucy connolly should have been jailed and certainly not for the amount of time she has been but the flip side of that is that she pleaded guilty so she kind of left it up to the system to decide. In most cases I wouldn't be jailing anyone for speech as it’s pathetic and certainly something that has changed for the worst in my lifetime. Chanting death to the IDF on TV is pathetic but treating the viewing public like toddlers because some people found those words a bit offensive is mad. Police are now investigating them although Glastonbury is full of drippy pro-Palestine twats who would be easy to whip up.Ridiculous how much coverage it getting but if you were an Israeli there surrounded by crowd yelling death to the IDF you would pretty much feel you were amongst a hate filled mob Don’t get me on those Irish cunts either 2
hypochondriac Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, whelk said: Police are now investigating them although Glastonbury is full of drippy pro-Palestine twats who would be easy to whip up.Ridiculous how much coverage it getting but if you were an Israeli there surrounded by crowd yelling death to the IDF you would pretty much feel you were amongst a hate filled mob Don’t get me on those Irish cunts either 100% but also if you're a Jew going to Glastonbury you've got to expect some middle class twats with luxury beliefs such as jew hate surely?
benjii Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: 100% but also if you're a Jew going to Glastonbury you've got to expect some middle class twats with luxury beliefs such as jew hate surely? He didn't say anything about Jews, did he? 1
benjii Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago "There are no innocent civilians in Gaza" Isaac Herzog, president of Israel "One of the options is to drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza." Amichai Eliyahu, Israel minister of heritage "Those are animals, they have no right to exist. They need to be exterminated." Yoav Kisch, Israel minister of education "Flatten Gaza. No time for mercy." Revital Gottlieb, Israeli knesset "Wipe Gaza off the face of the earth. Gaza must be burned." Nissim Vaturi, Israeli knesset
hypochondriac Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, benjii said: He didn't say anything about Jews, did he? Who are in the IDF?
whelk Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) I preferred it when we were talking about the Wet Leg bird and Olivia Rodrigo Edited 13 hours ago by whelk 1
hypochondriac Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, benjii said: "There are no innocent civilians in Gaza" Isaac Herzog, president of Israel "One of the options is to drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza." Amichai Eliyahu, Israel minister of heritage "Those are animals, they have no right to exist. They need to be exterminated." Yoav Kisch, Israel minister of education "Flatten Gaza. No time for mercy." Revital Gottlieb, Israeli knesset "Wipe Gaza off the face of the earth. Gaza must be burned." Nissim Vaturi, Israeli knesset We are all in agreement that you should be free to act like a bellend and say twatty things on TV and not be jailed for it. If you want to discuss specifics of Israel there's a thread for that...
Turkish Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: We are all in agreement that you should be free to act like a bellend and say twatty things on TV and not be jailed for it. If you want to discuss specifics of Israel there's a thread for that... We are but given people do get jailed for it, it'll be interesting to see if any charges are made given the PM himself said it was hate speech.
Farmer Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 hours ago, benjii said: On the subject of female popstars your young relatives might like, but you always assumed were crappy, but are actually really good, I have developed an appreciation of Miley Cyrus in recent years. She did Glasto in 2019. Did a good version of Nothing Else Matters with Metallica as well. Considering she has a serious illness that attacks her vocal chords (Reinke's edema) she has changed her sound to deal with that. She's aware how she went off the rails as well...
egg Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, Turkish said: It'll be how interesting to see how long his prison sentence will be given we've seen sentences of anything between 2-5 years for saying similar things on facebook. Surely this is worse than people writing naughty things on facebook to a few hundred people when hes chanted it live on stage in front of thosands there and a TV audience of possibly millions. There's a world of difference inciting people to burn down hotels in this country to kill people, and attacking the army of a foreign country. The first can he done by people in this country. The latter can't be. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Who are in the IDF? Israeli's.
Turkish Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Just now, egg said: There's a world of difference inciting people to burn down hotels in this country to kill people, and attacking the army of a foreign country. The first can he done by people in this country. The latter can't be. Doesnt mean they cant attack Israeli people in this country does it
egg Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 20 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: 100% but also if you're a Jew going to Glastonbury you've got to expect some middle class twats with luxury beliefs such as jew hate surely? The incitement was specific against the IDF and not targeted against British Jews. Sure, some dinlo's could target British Jews on the back of it. The chants were stupid, but I don't see that anything will come of it. 1
egg Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Doesnt mean they cant attack Israeli people in this country does it That wasn't the chant. It was against a group of people, a military, miles from here. If people are stupid enough to target individual British Jews for whatever reason, they will.
Gloucester Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, egg said: The incitement was specific against the IDF and not targeted against British Jews. Sure, some dinlo's could target British Jews on the back of it. The chants were stupid, but I don't see that anything will come of it. Much as I’d like to see them jailed for their shit ‘music’. 1
egg Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Did a good version of Nothing Else Matters with Metallica as well. Considering she has a serious illness that attacks her vocal chords (Reinke's edema) she has changed her sound to deal with that. She's aware how she went off the rails as well... She's brilliant. Like Olivia Rodrigo, not my cup of tea, but brilliant nonetheless. I loved that Flowers song she did a while back. 3
Farmer Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, egg said: The incitement was specific against the IDF and not targeted against British Jews. Sure, some dinlo's could target British Jews on the back of it. The chants were stupid, but I don't see that anything will come of it. The same as when people shout "Death to America" that's also not anti-Semitism even though they have the largest Jewish population in the world. I wish people wouldn't conflate the Jewish/Israel thing. It may have been a big deal in the past for the older generations, but it really isn't a huge thing now, especially for younger people. What young people don't want to see is senseless killing of innocent men, women and children. This is where the IDF come in because they have been very liberal in how they have decided to wage their war. 2
egg Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Just now, Gloucester Saint said: Much as I’d like to see them jailed for their shit ‘music’. Now that I can support! It was daft attention seeking, and sadly, the fall out has gotten them more attention. Kneecap have more of a problem with their comments. Their music is even worse. 1
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Much as I’d like to see them jailed for their shit ‘music’. Yeah I can support that! 2
Turkish Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, egg said: That wasn't the chant. It was against a group of people, a military, miles from here. If people are stupid enough to target individual British Jews for whatever reason, they will. If people are stupid enough to target immigrants in hotels they will regardless of what some bellends on Facebook says 1
whelk Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: If people are stupid enough to target immigrants in hotels they will regardless of what some bellends on Facebook says Are you advocating that people posting get out there and burn the hotels down should just be ignored? I’m glad these vile people got some ‘feedback’ 1
egg Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Turkish said: If people are stupid enough to target immigrants in hotels they will regardless of what some bellends on Facebook says The FB posts highlighted where people were and incited people to attack them, and people did. It was disgraceful behaviour and the strong sentence had the desired affect. Completely different to the Glasto issue. Anyways, this is a Glasto thread and I'll take it no further off course. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, egg said: The FB posts highlighted where people were and incited people to attack them, and people did. It was disgraceful behaviour and the strong sentence had the desired affect. Completely different to the Glasto issue. Anyways, this is a Glasto thread and I'll take it no further off course. I bet the IDF are laughing thinking "I could him with a fucking Xmas card". Even if it was a crowd I would assume they'd just do what they do now, and mow them down with their assault rifles. Edited 12 hours ago by Farmer Saint
benjii Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 58 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Who are in the IDF? It's the Israeli state army. Hated by numerous Jews.
benjii Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 41 minutes ago, egg said: She's brilliant. Like Olivia Rodrigo, not my cup of tea, but brilliant nonetheless. I loved that Flowers song she did a while back. She has done loads of great covers. Makes the song her own. Really super, super talented.
egg Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, benjii said: She has done loads of great covers. Makes the song her own. Really super, super talented. Her cover of Zombies by Cranberries is brilliant. One of those classics that'd be easy to slaughter. 2
benjii Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, egg said: Her cover of Zombies by Cranberries is brilliant. One of those classics that'd be easy to slaughter. Seeing as you like Flowers: 1
whelk Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 12 minutes ago, benjii said: It's the Israeli state army. Hated by numerous Jews. Isn’t it something like two thirds conscripts who are presumably normal Israelis? 1
LegalEagle Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, benjii said: He didn't say anything about Jews, did he? I assume that if they’re going to prosecute Vylan for what he said they will prosecute all of the crowd that joined in as well. Thought not.
benjii Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, whelk said: Isn’t it something like two thirds conscripts who are presumably normal Israelis? Indeed. There are Jewish communities in Israel that refuse to serve in it. It's a political issue as to whether they should be forced to or not. I don't think Vylan has a problem with them.
egg Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 8 minutes ago, benjii said: Seeing as you like Flowers: Thanks. That's a great version 👍 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago (edited) If Lewis Capaldi chanted death to all the illegal immigrants, I wonder if he would be in jail right now. Edited 11 hours ago by AlexLaw76
hypochondriac Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 53 minutes ago, benjii said: Indeed. There are Jewish communities in Israel that refuse to serve in it. It's a political issue as to whether they should be forced to or not. I don't think Vylan has a problem with them. What about those young kids who serve as part of their public service? Some of whom repelled Hamas on October 7th and saved many lives. Should they die too?
egg Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: What about those young kids who serve as part of their public service? Some of whom repelled Hamas on October 7th and saved many lives. Should they die too? Probably a question for Vylan rather than Benji i'd have thought.
hypochondriac Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, egg said: Probably a question for Vylan rather than Benji i'd have thought. Sort of highlights why the chant was a bloody stupid thing to do.
iansums Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, egg said: Probably a question for Vylan rather than Benji i'd have thought. Yeah, best for benjii to leave that tricky question 1
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago On 28/06/2025 at 23:04, Sheaf Saint said: I was hoping to catch a bit of Scissor Sisters but the feed from the Woodsies Stage failed. I know they're cheesier than a wotsit fondue, but I saw them at Homelands in Winchester in the mid 00s and they're a fun live act. Saw them at the BIC a few weeks back, camp as a row of tents, but a really good act. Shame they couldn't convince Anna Mantronic to join them again.
Farmer Saint Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Saw them at the BIC a few weeks back, camp as a row of tents, but a really good act. Shame they couldn't convince Anna Mantronic to join them again. They utterly destroyed Comfortably Numb, so for that they can go the same way as the IDF... Edited 10 hours ago by Farmer Saint
skintsaint Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, hypochondriac said: 100% but also if you're a Jew going to Glastonbury you've got to expect some middle class twats with luxury beliefs such as jew hate surely? https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1354293482343064&rdid=gYs83bLGTpm54lJx
benjii Posted 6 minutes ago Posted 6 minutes ago 11 hours ago, hypochondriac said: What about those young kids who serve as part of their public service? Some of whom repelled Hamas on October 7th and saved many lives. Should they die too? "Death to the IDF" is different from "Death to every member of the IDF", and the former is clearly a comment on the institution and not on every individual within it (and certainly not on "Jews", everyone's favourite conflation). In the same way that I would like the Russian army to get smashed in Ukraine, I do not wish death on every poor sod who gets caught up in it, nor on every Russian Orthodox Christian. That said, chanting it in the context it was chanted, without nuance or subtlety, was obviously likely to inflame and cause anger. Anyway, that's enough about this.
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