1976_Child Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 The only thing good about yesterday was seeing McLaggon. Future star. Very impressed with him. His attitude and commitment. Well done son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Eh? He was useless yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 The only thing good about yesterday was seeing McLaggon. Future star. Very impressed with him. His attitude and commitment. Well done son. Eh? He was useless yesterday! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Eh? He was useless yesterday! you must have been at a different game pal. He was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I was impressed with his effort and work rate last night, but the product was poor Everytime he got the ball, he just ran into trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 He seemed to make the same mistakes Dyer makes, running into blind alleys and trying too much. I agree he has potential but he should never be starting these matches. Impact sub for a season and then give him a run of games. Skacel should have started on the left yesterday with BWP on the right. We would have plenty of pace and experience down the wings and a couple of decent outlets for the midfielders. Starting with McLaggon and Lallana outwide was stupid imo. Still I agree with the OP that he will be a future star, we just need to look after him and make sure he keeps his head down and doesn't let anything of the pitch distract him like Dyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I was impressed with his effort and work rate last night, but the product was poor Everytime he got the ball, he just ran into trouble granted he is still a rough diamond but there is certainly quality there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I was impressed with his effort and work rate last night, but the product was poor Everytime he got the ball, he just ran into trouble Spot on, I think some people are expecting too much from a young inexperienced winger. He never should have started yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Eh? He was useless yesterday! FFS Must everything always be reduced to 'he's ****' all the time? He's how old? and this WAS his first start. We've already turned on Lallana so is the plan to now slate players before they've even played a game... Maybe you should look through the U18 squad listing and pick some of them to slag off? Get your pre-emptive strike in, then when they fail to do anything you can be proud to say that you knew they were crap before they even played. Perhaps you could go one further and scout around the local tyro leagues so you can spot any potential players to slag off before we even offer them a trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 FFS Must everything always be reduced to 'he's ****' all the time? He's how old? and this WAS his first start. We've already turned on Lallana so is the plan to now slate players before they've even played a game... Maybe you should look through the U18 squad listing and pick some of them to slag off? Get your pre-emptive strike in, then when they fail to do anything you can be proud to say that you knew they were crap before they even played. Perhaps you could go one further and scout around the local tyro leagues so you can spot any potential players to slag off before we even offer them a trial? And did I say that? Please read the posts properly before making yourself look silly. If I had said "he is useless" then you may have had a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 to be fair he was poor, surprised he stayed on for as long as he did. Kept getting pushed off the ball way to easily and when we broke, he seemed to run straight at people rather than around them. Definately one for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 you must have been at a different game pal. He was excellent. If you read people who hav rated the players in the post match reaction, most have given him a 5 or below (someone has given him a 2.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 After watching yesterday's performance he doesn't look quite ready to start yet, but he deserved a chance after a few good cameo performances. Certainly has potential, and should still be involved in/around the first team, but yesterday just didn't go for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 to be fair he was poor, surprised he stayed on for as long as he did. Kept getting pushed off the ball way to easily and when we broke, he seemed to run straight at people rather than around them. Definately one for the future. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Thank you. i suggested that you should be a mod on the arcade..seeing as you take everyones titles.. no doubt, it will get ignored like other suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 After watching yesterday's performance he doesn't look quite ready to start yet, but he deserved a chance after a few good cameo performances. Certainly has potential, and should still be involved in/around the first team, but yesterday just didn't go for him. agreed but he is just another pawn in the plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 i suggested that you should be a mod on the arcade..seeing as you take everyones titles.. no doubt, it will get ignored like other suggestions I saw . I doubt very much that they would give me the power though. It gets very boring doing work sometimes and the arcade is a bit of a laugh! Anyway back on topic, having skimmed through the post match reaction thread, the marks for Mclaggon are 4,2,3,2,3,4. So it seems that you are in fact the minority and must have been watching a different game to the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 i suggested that you should be a mod on the arcade..seeing as you take everyones titles.. no doubt, it will get ignored like other suggestions I don't know how you think dedicated mods would help though mate. All the problems in the Arcade are fussy little coding errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 The only thing good about yesterday was seeing McLaggon. Future star. Very impressed with him. His attitude and commitment. Well done son. I must have been at a different game to you. He was equally as bad as McGoldrick, if not worse IMO. At times he was just stood (not on his toes waiting for the ball) and looking around to people in the crowd. I lost count the amount of times an attack broke down he then just 'jogged' back leaving Surman against 2 players. He's showed promise in previous games but he was useless last night, much like the rest of the team, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I saw . I doubt very much that they would give me the power though. It gets very boring doing work sometimes and the arcade is a bit of a laugh! Anyway back on topic, having skimmed through the post match reaction thread, the marks for Mclaggon are 4,2,3,2,3,4. So it seems that you are in fact the minority and must have been watching a different game to the majority. which goes to show that people are far too critical and negative. From where I was sitting he showed real determination and worked hard. Sometimes I think that people go to games with their minds already set on negativity. Sure, he isn't the finished article but I was enough impressed by him to have marked him down as a future star. And anyway giving someone a mark out of ten is never going to be objective when we lose a game and are sitting in the relegation zone. If we had won last night you can bet that the marks out of ten would have been higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I don't know how you think dedicated mods would help though mate. All the problems in the Arcade are fussy little coding errors. well..maybe tell us that then..that suggestion was put up this this morining.. a coupel of mods have posted on that thread since... there have been posts on the arcade for ages about the broken tournaments..yet nothing...hence why I suggested an arcade mod..as if you guys dont have the time (or interest) in letting us know, then perhaps someone like hype who is on the arcade alot could do a simple job on it..? just trying to post ideas on how to keep (the many) forums remotely interesting to keep people here...or ditch the fiver thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 which goes to show that people are far too critical and negative. From where I was sitting he showed real determination and worked hard. Sometimes I think that people go to games with their minds already set on negativity. Sure, he isn't the finished article but I was enough impressed by him to have marked him down as a future star. And anyway giving someone a mark out of ten is never going to be objective when we lose a game and are sitting in the relegation zone. If we had won last night you can bet that the marks out of ten would have been higher. yes a future star, IF he is managed properly but last night he was no-where near that potential. I was more impressed with him when he came on v Swansea and even then he wasnt amazing. As i said, one for the future and i hope we dont ruin him by being forced to play him too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Another player with a lot of potential but not ready yet. Like most of the youngsters this year, he has been thrown in much too early and will probably have his confidence destroyed by the clubs sink or drown policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeismyname Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Yeah, I thought he was crap last night as well. Every time he tried to run with the ball it was bouncing off his knees as he ran with it (like most of our players) and he never seemed to be able to fully control the ball. Don't get me wrong, I like him as a player but he was just not at it last night. Don't get me started on Lloyd James who can't run, tackle, control, cross etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 He didn't look ready to start and he did show some worrying signs of Dyerea, but certainly has some real potential (remember Reading) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I like Lloyd James - most underrated player on our team. Granted not the best tackler, but determined, good passer and spends most games entirely on his own on the right because we never play with a right winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 which goes to show that people are far too critical and negative. Right so every person who rated Mclaggon on the post match thread is wrong and you are correct? For what it's worth, I've liked him in his last two games but I honestly thought he was useless yesterday. Nothing to do with negativity. The likelihood is that you are wrong and the majority are correct, especially because I have seen not one other person describing him as "excellent." From where I was sitting he showed real determination and worked hard. Fair enough but that does not mean that you can describe the majority who disagee with you as far too critical and negative. Perhaps you are being far to satisfied with mediocrity and blinded my positivity. Sometimes I think that people go to games with their minds already set on negativity. Fine but I didn't and I thought he was useless. Sure, he isn't the finished article but I was enough impressed by him to have marked him down as a future star. So do I but not in this game. And anyway giving someone a mark out of ten is never going to be objective when we lose a game and are sitting in the relegation zone. If we had won last night you can bet that the marks out of ten would have been higher. Of course they would have but then we would have won! Are you again suggesting that your single opinion is more objective and valid than the seven (and most likely many more) who didn't rate him? Why because you think a player plays badly in one game does that automatically mean that you think they are rubbish and being too negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 Eh? He was useless yesterday! You don't half talk some rubbish... his attitude was just what we need! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 So now apart from the original poster not one person has sad he was excellent. I know who I would have my money on as someone who "Was watching a different game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 You don't half talk some rubbish... his attitude was just what we need! Yet one more person completely ignoring what I said. Did I say "Mclaggon is useless"? Or did I say he was useless yesterday? Two completely different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.tom.clancy Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I like Lloyd James - most underrated player on our team. Granted not the best tackler, but determined, good passer and spends most games entirely on his own on the right because we never play with a right winger I think he is a liability at right back tbh. Maybe a right winger?? But we have no cover so we have to settle i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 The lad definitely has potential, but whether he's ready for the first-team just yet is another thing. I think Kayne is best suited to being used as a substitute for the time being. We could utilise his pace towards the end of games as opposing defenders begin to tire. Would make a good impact player IMO. One for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 you must have been at a different game pal. He was excellent. he was total garbage spending the entire time falling over, miscontrolling almost every single time and losing the ball time after time. I am amazed anyone would think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 He seemed to make the same mistakes Dyer makes, running into blind alleys and trying too much. I agree he has potential but he should never be starting these matches. Impact sub for a season and then give him a run of games. Skacel should have started on the left yesterday with BWP on the right. We would have plenty of pace and experience down the wings and a couple of decent outlets for the midfielders. Starting with McLaggon and Lallana outwide was stupid imo. Still I agree with the OP that he will be a future star, we just need to look after him and make sure he keeps his head down and doesn't let anything of the pitch distract him like Dyer. I like him but he slipped up far too often, possibly wrong studs. Still he is for the future, impact sub this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 No reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 The coaches don't seem to know how to get the best out of very quick players. Dyer, Thompson and now McLaggon all have pace, however they all try and dribble around opponents, and run with the ball close taking a touch every couple of paces. Really fast players need to run without the ball to take advantage of their speed. John Sydenham was great at this. Either the ball is played early behind full backs, or the player knocks the ball 20-30 yds down the line and then races the other players utilising speed. Our three don't do this. I once coached an ex GB Olympic sprinter at a semi-pro level. He wasn't a bad footballer but wanted to dribble. I demonstrated to him in a couple of sessions that he really wasn't using his speed. Once he started knocking the ball well past the defender he was devastating and almost unplayable. Unfortunately he had a serious injury about twelve months later that finished his football. If our three learn to do that, they could be very dangerous wingers, at the moment they are pretty ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 FFS Must everything always be reduced to 'he's ****' all the time? He's how old? and this WAS his first start. We've already turned on Lallana so is the plan to now slate players before they've even played a game... Maybe you should look through the U18 squad listing and pick some of them to slag off? Get your pre-emptive strike in, then when they fail to do anything you can be proud to say that you knew they were crap before they even played. Perhaps you could go one further and scout around the local tyro leagues so you can spot any potential players to slag off before we even offer them a trial? i think you find they moan about anything to do with saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Saint Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 After a decent run out on Saturday, I thought McLaggon looked out of sorts yesterday. He kept falling over (he changed his boots about 5 minutes before half-time, so he probably had the wrong studs on) and I think he lost a bit of confidence after his third 'ice-capade'. He'll come good, I think; he's already got more presence than some of our right-wing try-outs, but he had a bit of a mare yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 February, 2009 Share Posted 4 February, 2009 I was impressed with his effort and work rate last night, but the product was poor Everytime he got the ball, he just ran into trouble However, he is only 17, so has plenty of time to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 February, 2009 Share Posted 5 February, 2009 He was not too good yesterday. He's been taking lessons from Dyer... Run at defenders, don't look up for the killer pass, but blunder straight into the defender, fall over and then take an age to wonder what's happened such that the opposition are now down the other end scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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