Rupert's still talking.. prepare to be surprised

[Summers]

Taken from skysports

 

Rupert Lowe has described financially-troubled Southampton's plight as a 'tragedy' with unthinkable consequences.

 

Lowe left his role as executive chairman of Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC, the company which owns Championship club Saints, after it entered administration last week.

 

The future looks bleak for Saints, who are more than £30million in debt, but they have so far avoided a 10-point penalty which is automatically dished out to clubs entering administration.

 

Saints, who are looking for a buyer amid fears they will fold before the end of the season, believe they should avoid the deduction which has been handed to other clubs such as Leeds, Darlington, Bournemouth and Luton because the club itself is not in administration.

 

Very serious

The Football League board met on Tuesday to discuss Southampton's situation, but will reconvene once they have the findings of an independent forensic accountancy report available.

 

"It is a very serious situation," Lowe, who returned to Saints in May 2008, told Sky Sports News.

 

"For the holding company to be placed into administration itself, it's a tragedy.

 

"Obviously, if finance isn't forthcoming, the consequences really don't bear thinking about."

 

 

Love

Lowe believes the responsibility for Saints' predicament must be shared by all at the club.

 

He added: "Everybody who has been involved in the club, whether that's the board, everybody, has to bear a little bit of the blame."

 

Lowe maintains he will help Saints in any way possible and has not ruled out a future return.

 

"I wouldn't back away - if I could help I'd definitely help," he added. "Surprising as it may sound, I love the club."

 

The last sentance worries me somewhat...!

[Weston Super Saint]

Taken from skysports

 

Rupert Lowe has described financially-troubled Southampton's plight as a 'tragedy' with unthinkable consequences.

 

Lowe left his role as executive chairman of Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC, the company which owns Championship club Saints, after it entered administration last week.

 

The future looks bleak for Saints, who are more than £30million in debt, but they have so far avoided a 10-point penalty which is automatically dished out to clubs entering administration.

 

Saints, who are looking for a buyer amid fears they will fold before the end of the season, believe they should avoid the deduction which has been handed to other clubs such as Leeds, Darlington, Bournemouth and Luton because the club itself is not in administration.

 

Very serious

The Football League board met on Tuesday to discuss Southampton's situation, but will reconvene once they have the findings of an independent forensic accountancy report available.

 

"It is a very serious situation," Lowe, who returned to Saints in May 2008, told Sky Sports News.

 

"For the holding company to be placed into administration itself, it's a tragedy.

 

"Obviously, if finance isn't forthcoming, the consequences really don't bear thinking about."

 

 

Love

Lowe believes the responsibility for Saints' predicament must be shared by all at the club.

 

He added: "Everybody who has been involved in the club, whether that's the board, everybody, has to bear a little bit of the blame."

 

Lowe maintains he will help Saints in any way possible and has not ruled out a future return.

 

"I wouldn't back away - if I could help I'd definitely help," he added. "Surprising as it may sound, I love the club."

 

The last sentance worries me somewhat...!

 

Which is probably why, having announced almost exactly the same thing in the last published accounts, RL & Co probably thought it was best not to think about it

[Summers]

the whole.. ''I love the club'' scares me!

[hypochondriac]

the whole.. ''I love the club'' scares me!

 

Imagine what it would have been like if he had hated the club!

[Toadhall Saint]

How many different ways can one man be told to feck off?

[Gemmel]

imagine what it would have been like if he had hated the club!

 

Very good

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

Lowe must stop this nonsense. Only Crouch & McMenemy can put themselves forward as 'loving' the club and ask for another go.

[SaintDonkey]

Can people just quit with the Lowe hating and unite behind the club?

 

That's as close as we're going to get to him accepting the blame for what's happened at Southampton. And a plea for help to save it. Put aside your feelings for the man personally and accept his words at face value.

 

He doesn't want the club to go under and neither do we. I'd rather he wasn't the person taking that message to the media but I'm glad someone is.

[Summers]

Can people just quit with the Lowe hating and unite behind the club?

 

That's as close as we're going to get to him accepting the blame for what's happened at Southampton. And a plea for help to save it. Put aside your feelings for the man personally and accept his words at face value.

 

He doesn't want the club to go under and neither do we. I'd rather he wasn't the person taking that message to the media but I'm glad someone is.

well said

[Frank's cousin]

Come on guys - 'sometimes we hurt the things we love love most'... ;-)

 

Seriously, I never doubted Lowe did actually care about Saints - he was just naive and often too ego driven to seek the right advice to make more appropriate decisions - couple that with an excellent ability to say exactly the wrong thing...all the time and its no wonder things have turned out as they have. There has been no malice in anything done by Lowe or Crouch and even Wilde had something to add (albeit an sneaky interest in JF), its just various levels of misjudgement...which sadly in football can have such diasterous consequences - when we were relegated under LM in the early 70s, we did not turn on Bates or Lawrie, mostly because teh consequences were mostly bruised egos as opposude to a 30mil drop in revenue - thee was not that gulf.

 

I hope he does not return in any way - because it is seriously time to move on, but if he did contibute is some way in teh background to helping things get back on track, I would certainly not be cutting off my nose to spite my face - we need all the help we can get.

[sidthesquid]

Lowe must stop this nonsense. Only Crouch & McMenemy can put themselves forward as 'loving' the club and ask for another go.

 

No they can't - they are both most definitely part of the problem, not part of the solution. You have to stop thinking my enemy's enemies are my friends. Those days have gone

[docker-p]

No they can't - they are both most definitely part of the problem, not part of the solution. You have to stop thinking my enemy's enemies are my friends. Those days have gone

 

Hows that then??

Argh yes, the six months when Crouch was in charge and caused ALL our financial problems, stopping only briefly in his wanton destruction to sort out the Ted Bates statue with his own money.

As as for LM. Why that dirty rat only established us a top flight club for the first time in our history after winning the fa cup.

With enemies like those......

[Golac's Iron Gonads]

In the same interview I especially liked how he, in exonerating himself from any blame, named and stitched up a Southampton supporting employee of the local Barclays and implied it was his unprofessionalism that led to the clubs present predicament, along with the 2006-08 board of course. I am unable to stop hating the odious little man.

[rocknrollman no2]

Why is it i am reminded of Hitler ranting in his bunker,when i see Lowe trying to defend the undefensible?

[Plumstead_Saint]

Can people just quit with the Lowe hating and unite behind the club?

To be frank - no.

Which is why if he really loves the club he will clear off and keep quiet.

Fat chance though..

[Trader]

As as for LM. Why that dirty rat only established us a top flight club for the first time in our history

 

Please don't rewrite history - that was Ted Bates

 

The first thing McMenemy did for us was get us relegated.

 

This sort of misconception is why Ted never seems to get the recognition he deserves - its all too long ago for most people to remember.

[miserableoldgit]

Please don't rewrite history - that was Ted Bates

 

The first thing McMenemy did for us was get us relegated.

 

This sort of misconception is why Ted never seems to get the recognition he deserves - its all too long ago for most people to remember.

This is getting ridiculous! Yes we were relegated during his first season but hes then spent 12 years as manager taking us to Wembley three time including the win in 76. He took us to runners up spot in the old First Division and signed players like KK (then European Footballer of the Year) along with countless other household international names and turned us into a team to be reckoned with. But you want to concentrate on his first season. Priceless!

I do remember Ted Bates. He was manager when I first started watching Saints in the mid 50`s. He was a great, great man but the best times we had were under McMenemy

[St Landrew]

How many different ways can one man be told to feck off?

 

If I suspend my critical side, and look kindly on Rupert, I can accept that he loves the club. But the football club clearly doesn't love him. It's a sad thing to know this, but Rupert could do SFC an almighty favour by not darkening the directorial doorstep again. Whether you are great with the books, or not, Rupes, just don't do it.

 

As far as buying a ticket for himself and his family, I'd have no problem with that. But no more than that. I'm not vindictive by nature.

[SaintDonkey]

To be frank - no.

Which is why if he really loves the club he will clear off and keep quiet.

Fat chance though..

 

Get over yourself! I realise that for some of you coming on here day after day creating anti Lowe threads is your reason for living, but that's over, gone, past, finito. I swear when he came back last time the ones who were happiest were the obsessive Lowe haters because it gave them something to post about again.

 

The guy is out there admitting he was at least partially to blame for the state Saints are in now and asking the world not to let Saints die. Do you have some problem with that message? Get a grip and get behind the Saints. At the moment Lowe is lloking like more than a fan than you are.

[Trader]

I was only stating a fact.

 

Yes he did win us the FA Cup in 76, but we really only had serious opposition in the final.

 

Yes he could talk a lot of fading stars into spending their declining years at Saints, collecting a runners-up spot on the way, but that was hardly building for the future.

 

And so it proved.

[Minsk]

I was only stating a fact.

 

Yes he did win us the FA Cup in 76, but we really only had serious opposition in the final.

 

Yes he could talk a lot of fading stars into spending their declining years at Saints, collecting a runners-up spot on the way, but that was hardly building for the future.

 

And so it proved.

 

Our only serious opposition was in the final? Please remind us of our status then, and that of all our opposition in getting there.

 

You're not forgetting that we were a div 2 team are you? (CCC team in today's book.)

 

And there are all those who say how great Rupes was by leading us to a DEFEAT at Wembley in 2003 when our only SERIOUS opposition that season WAS in the final!!!

[miserableoldgit]

I was only stating a fact.

 

Yes he did win us the FA Cup in 76, but we really only had serious opposition in the final.

 

Yes he could talk a lot of fading stars into spending their declining years at Saints, collecting a runners-up spot on the way, but that was hardly building for the future.

 

And so it proved.

We were a Second Division side when we won the Cup (in case you`re not sure).

Kevin Keegan (Current European Footballer of the Year), Peter Osgood, Peter Shilton, Dave Watson etc were all fading stars were they. You are either a WUM or have selective memory.

[ST Randy]

I was only stating a fact.

 

Yes he did win us the FA Cup in 76, but we really only had serious opposition in the final.

 

Yes he could talk a lot of fading stars into spending their declining years at Saints, collecting a runners-up spot on the way, but that was hardly building for the future.

 

And so it proved.

 

 

You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

[MarkSFC]

In the same interview I especially liked how he' date=' in exonerating himself from any blame, named and stitched up a Southampton supporting employee of the local Barclays and implied it was his unprofessionalism that led to the clubs present predicament, along with the 2006-08 board of course. I am unable to stop hating the odious little man.[/quote']

 

absolutely!

 

The man is a weak excuse for a human being....all he is doing is using his "contacts" to spin his ego..

 

BUT....we MUST move on and be the better people in all this. We have a massive chance for REAL CHANGE.

 

Out with the old and in with new......

 

"better the devil you know"...NO THANKS!!!

[Trader]

You can add Charlie George and Peter Rodrigues to your list of fading stars.

Ask yourself this - Where were they transferred to when they LEFT Saints?

 

FA Cup 1976

 

Round 3 - Aston Villa (Finished that season 16th in Div1) OK good win aet in replay

Round 4 - Blackpool (Div 2)

Round 5 - WBA (Div 2)

Round 6 - Bradford C (Div4)

Semi-Final - C Palace (Div 3)

 

I do know what I'm talking about - maybe some other people have selective memories

[MarkSFC]

This is getting ridiculous! Yes we were relegated during his first season but hes then spent 12 years as manager taking us to Wembley three time including the win in 76. He took us to runners up spot in the old First Division and signed players like KK (then European Footballer of the Year) along with countless other household international names and turned us into a team to be reckoned with. But you want to concentrate on his first season. Priceless!

I do remember Ted Bates. He was manager when I first started watching Saints in the mid 50`s. He was a great, great man but the best times we had were under McMenemy

 

still the ONLY english team (I think) to sign the current Europen Player of theYear!! I still remember where I was when Iheard we'd signed KEVIN KEEGAN!!!

As someone who grew up watching his teams McMenemy deserves his place behind Bates ( my grandad knew him and rated him as a man big time) in the top echelons of Saints legends but he isnt squeeky clean.

But then how many of us never make any mistakes?!!

The trouble is some people (RL) make far too many!!!!

[MarkSFC]

I was only stating a fact.

 

Yes he did win us the FA Cup in 76, but we really only had serious opposition in the final.

 

Yes he could talk a lot of fading stars into spending their declining years at Saints, collecting a runners-up spot on the way, but that was hardly building for the future.

 

And so it proved.

 

Didnt LM and John Mortimore start what is now our academy???

[ottery st mary]

I think we had a sort of academy in the days of CPC Nursling...maybe I am getting old1950s Most of the players have moved on by now.

[Trader]

I remember where I was when I heard we'd sighned Keegan too - I was working in a firm in Shirley Road.

I bumped into the bloke who told me at SMS on Saturday - first time I'd seen him in ages.

 

I know what LM did for us, but Ted Bates took us from NOWHERE in his time, from obscurity to the top half of the elite, and all I'm saying is that many people have forgotten.

[docker-p]

Please don't rewrite history - that was Ted Bates

 

The first thing McMenemy did for us was get us relegated.

 

This sort of misconception is why Ted never seems to get the recognition he deserves - its all too long ago for most people to remember.

 

Establish i said. Not the first to get us there.

After our promotion under LM in 78 we finnished 2nd in '84 and stayed there for 27 years.

If you need any more history lessons give me a shout.

[MarkSFC]

I was playing football for my school team, in goal, and the team was up the other end and my mate came running along telling everyone!!! I got so excited I didnt see the opposition coming toward me and let a goal in...didnt matter when everyone else realised the game stopped briefly while everyone cheered etc!!! Good times!

 

I may not have been clear...BATES IS MR SAINTS, always was always will be

[Trader]

Establish i said. Not the first to get us there.

After our promotion under LM in 78 we finnished 2nd in '84 and stayed there for 27 years.

If you need any more history lessons give me a shout.

 

As I said, we were established until McMenemy took us back down!

 

Clear now?

 

D'oh!

[Ricky Redstripe]

I read most of the interview in the Sunday papers, and particularly liked the part where he said "I have to say it's unlikely" (returning to the club), and this is the part I choked on, "Even though I built the stadium."!!!!!!

"Have I been unfairly vilified? Possibly.I knew the risk going back but I'd do the same again."

[St.Thomas7]

I got quite wound up when on a clip on SSN (taken from the Sky News Interview) knowing full well in order to avoid the 10point deduction the money problems must not cause a problem with the running of the club Rupes told a story of how we tried to pay a goalkeeping coach with a cheque that then bounced...

 

Sorry, even though he's gone I still hate the man-child...

[Minsk]

You can add Charlie George and Peter Rodrigues to your list of fading stars.

Ask yourself this - Where were they transferred to when they LEFT Saints?

 

FA Cup 1976

 

Round 3 - Aston Villa (Finished that season 16th in Div1) OK good win aet in replay

Round 4 - Blackpool (Div 2)

Round 5 - WBA (Div 2)

Round 6 - Bradford C (Div4)

Semi-Final - C Palace (Div 3)

 

I do know what I'm talking about - maybe some other people have selective memories

 

So, in summary, on our way to the final we beat:

 

A team from the division ABOVE us.

A team from our own division who finished only 4 places and 7 points below us that season.

Another team from our own division, but one who got promoted to Div 1 that very same season.

And two teams from leagues below us.

 

I would say that equals at least 2, and probably 3, teams of serious opposition on our way to the final.

 

Compare that to the 2003 trip (where we played one game against an out of form team in our own division and then every other round was against teams from lower divisions) and maybe you will see my point.

 

Oh, and of course, let's not forget that against all odds we won that final too!

 

But I do understand the point you are making about Ted.

Edited 9 April, 2009 by Minsk

[ooohTerryHurlock]

Come on guys - 'sometimes we hurt the things we love love most'... ;-)

 

Seriously, I never doubted Lowe did actually care about Saints - he was just naive and often too ego driven to seek the right advice to make more appropriate decisions - couple that with an excellent ability to say exactly the wrong thing...all the time and its no wonder things have turned out as they have. There has been no malice in anything done by Lowe or Crouch and even Wilde had something to add (albeit an sneaky interest in JF), its just various levels of misjudgement...which sadly in football can have such diasterous consequences - when we were relegated under LM in the early 70s, we did not turn on Bates or Lawrie, mostly because teh consequences were mostly bruised egos as opposude to a 30mil drop in revenue - thee was not that gulf.

 

I hope he does not return in any way - because it is seriously time to move on, but if he did contibute is some way in teh background to helping things get back on track, I would certainly not be cutting off my nose to spite my face - we need all the help we can get.

 

I think two bites at the cherry is enough for anyone - I bear him no malice but the taxi is at the front door and as Sir Alan says so well - Rupert - YOUR FIRED!

[ooohTerryHurlock]

In the same interview I especially liked how he' date=' in exonerating himself from any blame, named and stitched up a Southampton supporting employee of the local Barclays and implied it was his unprofessionalism that led to the clubs present predicament, along with the 2006-08 board of course. I am unable to stop hating the odious little man.[/quote']

 

Were they not two boards during this period - I think Diblue, hoos and that lot do well tho keep under the radar. They are like the Liberal Democrats - responsible for a lot of wrong doing but not necessarily big enough in the food change to be accountable. This is why I do feel for crouch et al as they not only picked up Lowes initial mess but also the wrekage of their (Dibleuet al) tenure.

[eurosaint]

Personally I believe him when he says that he loves the club but in the final conclusion he let us down !

There was always a heavy suspicion that he and Wilde returned together to protect/salvage their own share values over all other considerations !

Given his best intentions for the club I simply cannot believe that he could not bring ANY serious investors to the table. I realise that we can now be bought for a knockdown price but the administrator has managed to get 34 statements of intent in a week (even if only a few turn out to be viable). !! This sort of proves that there always was interest out there !I am still left with the impression that Rupert was holding out for reasons of both ego and payout !

Did he ever seriously tried to find us a buyer !!!

[miserableoldgit]

So, in summary, on our way to the final we beat:

 

A team from the division ABOVE us.

A team from our own division who finished only 4 places and 7 points below us that season.

Another team from our own division, but one who got promoted to Div 1 that very same season.

And two teams from leagues below us.

 

I would say that equals at least 2, and probably 3, teams of serious opposition on our way to the final.

 

Compare that to the 2003 trip (where we played one game against an out of form team in our own division and then every other round was against teams from lower divisions) and maybe you will see my point.

 

Oh, and of course, let's not forget that against all odds we won that final too!

 

But I do understand the point you are making about Ted.

I actually agree with him about Ted Bates,but you can appreciate what Lawrie did for the for the club as well. To dismiss what he did as a relegation, (this is a bit like saying The Beatles were crap because "Love Me Do" didn`t get to No. 1), a lucky cup win and signing a few fading stars is at best naive - at worst sheer stupidity. Bates and McMenemy were the two best managers that this club has ever had or ever liable to have.

[solentstars]

Personally I believe him when he says that he loves the club but in the final conclusion he let us down !

There was always a heavy suspicion that he and Wilde returned together to protect/salvage their own share values over all other considerations !

Given his best intentions for the club I simply cannot believe that he could not bring ANY serious investors to the table. I realise that we can now be bought for a knockdown price but the administrator has managed to get 34 statements of intent in a week (even if only a few turn out to be viable). !! This sort of proves that there always was interest out there !I am still left with the impression that Rupert was holding out for reasons of both ego and payout !

Did he ever seriously tried to find us a buyer !!!

i think the interest was their but when they looked at the finances they could see what a shambles andmismangement it was and walked away.

[miserableoldgit]

As I said, we were established until McMenemy took us back down!

 

Clear now?

 

D'oh!

This reminds me of when I was at school in the 60`s. You either liked The Beatles or The Stones - you weren`t expected/allowed to like them both!

Well I did like them both and I am able to appreciate what both Bates AND McMenemy did for our club. Perhaps this concept is too difficult to understand.

[solentstars]

I actually agree with him about Ted Bates,but you can appreciate what Lawrie did for the for the club as well. To dismiss what he did as a relegation, (this is a bit like saying The Beatles were crap because "Love Me Do" didn`t get to No. 1), a lucky cup win and signing a few fading stars is at best naive - at worst sheer stupidity. Bates and McMenemy were the two best managers that this club has ever had or ever liable to have.

good post lawries a legend like bates ,i saw my best football ever when big mac was in charge.

[Toomer]

You can add Charlie George and Peter Rodrigues to your list of fading stars.

Ask yourself this - Where were they transferred to when they LEFT Saints?

 

FA Cup 1976

 

Round 3 - Aston Villa (Finished that season 16th in Div1) OK good win aet in replay

Round 4 - Blackpool (Div 2)

Round 5 - WBA (Div 2)

Round 6 - Bradford C (Div4)

Semi-Final - C Palace (Div 3)

 

I do know what I'm talking about - maybe some other people have selective memories

 

All games won away from home and I was at every one.

[sadoldgit]

Lowe must stop this nonsense. Only Crouch & McMenemy can put themselves forward as 'loving' the club and ask for another go.

 

Tongue firmly in cheek Richard???

[damers]

Maybe the "R" word should be left to history going on and on about it is not really getting us anywhere..........is it?

 

We need to all unite behind our club and look forward to a new start...........

[Frank's cousin]

[/b]

 

I think two bites at the cherry is enough for anyone - I bear him no malice but the taxi is at the front door and as Sir Alan says so well - Rupert - YOUR FIRED!

 

Fair enough - but was only talking hypotheticlly if he suddenly found a stash of used notes under his bed and was overcome in a fit of generosity.

[SaintRichmond]

Taken from skysports

 

Rupert Lowe has described financially-troubled Southampton's plight as a 'tragedy' with unthinkable consequences.

 

Lowe left his role as executive chairman of Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC, the company which owns Championship club Saints, after it entered administration last week.

 

The future looks bleak for Saints, who are more than £30million in debt, but they have so far avoided a 10-point penalty which is automatically dished out to clubs entering administration.

 

Saints, who are looking for a buyer amid fears they will fold before the end of the season, believe they should avoid the deduction which has been handed to other clubs such as Leeds, Darlington, Bournemouth and Luton because the club itself is not in administration.

 

Very serious

The Football League board met on Tuesday to discuss Southampton's situation, but will reconvene once they have the findings of an independent forensic accountancy report available.

 

"It is a very serious situation," Lowe, who returned to Saints in May 2008, told Sky Sports News.

 

"For the holding company to be placed into administration itself, it's a tragedy.

 

"Obviously, if finance isn't forthcoming, the consequences really don't bear thinking about."

 

 

Love

Lowe believes the responsibility for Saints' predicament must be shared by all at the club.

 

He added: "Everybody who has been involved in the club, whether that's the board, everybody, has to bear a little bit of the blame."

 

Lowe maintains he will help Saints in any way possible and has not ruled out a future return.

 

"I wouldn't back away - if I could help I'd definitely help," he added. "Surprising as it may sound, I love the club."

 

The last sentance worries me somewhat...!

 

 

TRUE .. He also said on TV, that the reason why people do not like him is because :-

 

1) His name is Rupert

2) He is a Toff

3) He was a Public School Boy

 

.... I must confess, I really am surprised ..... for the last twelve years, I thought I didliked him because of his attitude to Football in general, and Saints in particular, his apparent inabilty to attract £1 of Investment in all that time, his lack of Man Management at Managerial level, his own contemptuos branding of Saints Supporters as "Customers",his splitting and division over many aspects at Club level, and, this season, his dismissing of a recognised Manager, the introduction of The Dutch, the "Going with youth" policy, and, at all times, his blank refusal to accept in any shape or form, that he could ever be wrong in anything.

 

I myself am working class, but know quite a few that could come under 10,20,30, as above ........... but after Lowe's TV performance, I can honestly say that none come anywhere near what Lowe portrayed on National TV

 

Lowe is guilty of being a "Class" conscience BIGOT ....IMHO

[arfurdent]

the whole.. ''I love the club'' scares me!

 

of course he loves the club - it was a nice little cash generator for him and his mates

[um pahars]

TRUE .. He also said on TV, that the reason why people do not like him is because :-

 

1) His name is Rupert

2) He is a Toff

3) He was a Public School Boy

 

.... I must confess, I really am surprised ..... for the last twelve years, I thought I didliked him because of his attitude to Football in general, and Saints in particular, his apparent inabilty to attract £1 of Investment in all that time, his lack of Man Management at Managerial level, his own contemptuos branding of Saints Supporters as "Customers",his splitting and division over many aspects at Club level, and, this season, his dismissing of a recognised Manager, the introduction of The Dutch, the "Going with youth" policy, and, at all times, his blank refusal to accept in any shape or form, that he could ever be wrong in anything.

 

I myself am working class, but know quite a few that could come under 10,20,30, as above ........... but after Lowe's TV performance, I can honestly say that none come anywhere near what Lowe portrayed on National TV

 

Lowe is guilty of being a "Class" conscience BIGOT ....IMHO

 

Absolutely!!!

 

The minute he started trotting out the "I'm hated because I'm called Rupert" line he lost all credibility.

 

In fact it's actually a rather insulting claim, insinuating that those who judge him are doing it solely on the basis of his class.

 

It's a lazy, sloppy, cheap and somewhat insulting claim that just because of someone's background, people will automatically judge them.

 

I would say to Rupert, please don't judge us by your own very low standards.

[Frank's cousin]

Absolutely!!!

 

The minute he started trotting out the "I'm hated because I'm called Rupert" line he lost all credibility.

 

In fact it's actually a rather insulting claim, insinuating that those who judge him are doing it solely on the basis of his class.

 

It's a lazy, sloppy, cheap and somewhat insulting claim that just because of someone's background, people will automatically judge them.

 

I would say to Rupert, please don't judge us by your own very low standards.

 

Of course it is... but why get so worked by it? Hes been doing that and playing that card for years and to be fair he has had some treatment that justifies these claims - all the duckhunter sh1te, 'hang him from the iTchen bridge' etc. UP, it would be very naive of you to believe its just a tiny few that disliked him because of his 'toffness' - there have been manyquite vocal over teh years who felt he had 'no place' in football.

 

But thats not the point really, my response would be 'so what?' What he is like as a person, his character was never a real concern of mine - just wanted him to run a club financially within its means. The fact we are so bothered by these claims as silly as they are, seems disproportionate to me... You do seem rather sensitive and easily 'insulted' UP ;-)

 

And its sentiments such as these emotive words as 'insulted' etc that have been used so oftten publically on sites such as these almost deliberately to try and 'spin' a story - and it does not escape the eye that this can be advantageous to certain pOVs.... but are you really so 'hurt' by it? Does it really bother you and 'thousands' of saints fans? I cant believe you are so sensitive to such irrelevence really.