Amesbury Saint Posted 13 April, 2009 Share Posted 13 April, 2009 Please can someone remind me of the timetable the Administrator is working to. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 13 April, 2009 Share Posted 13 April, 2009 Please can someone remind me of the timetable the Administrator is working to. Thanks Try Mark Fry from: http://www.begbies-traynor.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 April, 2009 Share Posted 13 April, 2009 Try Mark Fry from: http://www.begbies-traynor.com/ I'm not sure he really has a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 14 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2009 I'm not sure he really has a clue. that make two of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 April, 2009 Share Posted 14 April, 2009 I was under the impression the timescale was the end of the season. That assumes it would appear that £500k is found to fund the excessive wage bill, mortgage repayments and fund Mark Fry's lunch bills until the season end also. I was also under the impression that they had four weeks (of which 1.5 have gone already) to find a buyer. It's probably about the same though, so I would say we've got about 3.5 weeks left before the plug is pulled and the lights turned out for the last time at SMS/SFC Ltd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 But hey according to Alpine, it would have all been worth it as we got rid of that '****' Lowe...... 'no club? pah, at least its no club without Lowe...'..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 But hey according to Alpine' date=' it would have all been worth it as we got rid of that '****' Lowe...... 'no club? pah, at least its no club without Lowe...'.....[/quote'] So what he is entitled to his opinion. You spend ages on here trying to sit on the fence playing I'm Mr Middle Ground and The Voice of Reason. Alpine may at times be an annoying negative bugger but several times he has been proved right...Burley being one. No-one knows at the moment whether we will have a club or not for me if it means having Lowe back in any guise after what he has done this year then I am totally with Alpine on this. I never attribute our downfall totally to him there are many culprits and I really have more anger to Wilde but Lowe this season totally blew every decision he made. Managers/Squad/Stadium/Fans all have been total **** ups that have cost us and me money by Lowes management and for that I never want him anywhere near the club I have supported home and away since 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 So what he is entitled to his opinion. You spend ages on here trying to sit on the fence playing I'm Mr Middle Ground and The Voice of Reason. Alpine may at times be an annoying negative bugger but several times he has been proved right...Burley being one. No-one knows at the moment whether we will have a club or not for me if it means having Lowe back in any guise after what he has done this year then I am totally with Alpine on this. I never attribute our downfall totally to him there are many culprits and I really have more anger to Wilde but Lowe this season totally blew every decision he made. Managers/Squad/Stadium/Fans all have been total **** ups that have cost us and me money by Lowes management and for that I never want him anywhere near the club I have supported home and away since 1963. I dont want to get into a long debate about GB but the fact is we have never been in such a high league position from the time he left. It again is opinion that you believe he was a failure. I myself think we would not have been in the last day relegation fight had he still been at the club last season.So Alpine is not correct in that one, as we have not again achieved the league position since his departure. Whether he was a success for us that could be questionable but he had a lot to deal with during his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 I dont want to get into a long debate about GB but the fact is we have never been in such a high league position from the time he left. It again is opinion that you believe he was a failure. I myself think we would not have been in the last day relegation fight had he still been at the club last season.So Alpine is not correct in that one, as we have not again achieved the league position since his departure. Whether he was a success for us that could be questionable but he had a lot to deal with during his tenure. Yeah, spending 7million is such a *****.... There are a million reasons why we havent achieved the same position since Burley left, the foremost of which is that every manager since has had to cut costs on players and wages, due to the fact that gormless Scottish twaaat piiissed the family silver up against the wall. I'd like to hear your convincing argument as to why scraping into the playoffs after PNE choked it is accpetable considering we had the best and most expensive team in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 So what he is entitled to his opinion. You spend ages on here trying to sit on the fence playing I'm Mr Middle Ground and The Voice of Reason. Alpine may at times be an annoying negative bugger but several times he has been proved right...Burley being one. No-one knows at the moment whether we will have a club or not for me if it means having Lowe back in any guise after what he has done this year then I am totally with Alpine on this. I never attribute our downfall totally to him there are many culprits and I really have more anger to Wilde but Lowe this season totally blew every decision he made. Managers/Squad/Stadium/Fans all have been total **** ups that have cost us and me money by Lowes management and for that I never want him anywhere near the club I have supported home and away since 1963. Superb post, and you have FC down to a tee. He's more interested in keeping that nice protuberant fence post up his backside than coming forward and fighting for anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 I dont want to get into a long debate about GB but the fact is we have never been in such a high league position from the time he left. It again is opinion that you believe he was a failure. I myself think we would not have been in the last day relegation fight had he still been at the club last season.So Alpine is not correct in that one, as we have not again achieved the league position since his departure. Whether he was a success for us that could be questionable but he had a lot to deal with during his tenure. We never achieved the same league position since Glyn Snodin left. The other fact is that although no-one thinks admin is a good thing, there was no way we were ever going to be taken over while we were a plc, therefore as long as someone comes along we will be better off no that Lowe has gone. Of course if no-one comes along, then we will be in the same position as we would have been with Lowe still here, i.e. ****ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 "He's more interested in keeping that nice protuberant fence post up his backside than coming forward and fighting for anything..." said the man sat behind his keyboard in another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 I dont want to get into a long debate about GB but the fact is we have never been in such a high league position from the time he left. It again is opinion that you believe he was a failure. I myself think we would not have been in the last day relegation fight had he still been at the club last season.So Alpine is not correct in that one, as we have not again achieved the league position since his departure. Whether he was a success for us that could be questionable but he had a lot to deal with during his tenure. Come on Nick look at the squads available under Burley and since. That play off season should of been a shoe in automatic promotion with the players we had. But Burley made some of the weirdest tactical decisons I have ever seen, one game Watford? we had 6 players playing on their opposite natural flank. Saga on in injury time when we were drawing 0-0 at another game. To cap it off we let the most inexperienced player take the first penalty when everyone knows its vital to get off to a great start. We were on a downward spiral under Burley....would he of sanctioned the release of Rasiak and Skacel by Crouch..not bloody likely. A lot of managers had a lot to deal with under the recent boards tenure....I was watching Football Matters last night on Setanta and Berti Basset was saying he was not surprised Redkrapp ran back as fast as he could to Pompey given how bad SCW was. He reckoned that SCW was atrocious and a fish out of water here. Ok Bassett can be a plumb at times but he has a pretty decent managerial career and knew what was happening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Come on Nick look at the squads available under Burley and since. That play off season should of been a shoe in automatic promotion with the players we had. But Burley made some of the weirdest tactical decisons I have ever seen, one game Watford? we had 6 players playing on their opposite natural flank. Saga on in injury time when we were drawing 0-0 at another game. To cap it off we let the most inexperienced player take the first penalty when everyone knows its vital to get off to a great start. We were on a downward spiral under Burley....would he of sanctioned the release of Rasiak and Skacel by Crouch..not bloody likely. A lot of managers had a lot to deal with under the recent boards tenure....I was watching Football Matters last night on Setanta and Berti Basset was saying he was not surprised Redkrapp ran back as fast as he could to Pompey given how bad SCW was. He reckoned that SCW was atrocious and a fish out of water here. Ok Bassett can be a plumb at times but he has a pretty decent managerial career and knew what was happening here. I'd agree with all of that. Burley was clueless - tactically and in ignoring players who should have started much more often, probably because they didn't join in his drinking games. I'd like to have seen how well Pearson would have done with the funds Burley had available. My guess is pretty blooming well, to be honest. Atrocious how we treated him, and he will as predicted have the last laugh as Leicester pass us on the way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 "He's more interested in keeping that nice protuberant fence post up his backside than coming forward and fighting for anything..." said the man sat behind his keyboard in another country. A mile of difference - I am limited in terms of what I can do due to geography, FC chooses to pontificate on balance rather than do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Come on Nick look at the squads available under Burley and since. That play off season should of been a shoe in automatic promotion with the players we had. But Burley made some of the weirdest tactical decisons I have ever seen, one game Watford? we had 6 players playing on their opposite natural flank. Saga on in injury time when we were drawing 0-0 at another game. To cap it off we let the most inexperienced player take the first penalty when everyone knows its vital to get off to a great start. We were on a downward spiral under Burley....would he of sanctioned the release of Rasiak and Skacel by Crouch..not bloody likely. A lot of managers had a lot to deal with under the recent boards tenure....I was watching Football Matters last night on Setanta and Berti Basset was saying he was not surprised Redkrapp ran back as fast as he could to Pompey given how bad SCW was. He reckoned that SCW was atrocious and a fish out of water here. Ok Bassett can be a plumb at times but he has a pretty decent managerial career and knew what was happening here. I can see what you are saying but in all these things you have to go back to that time and place. He did ok and of course the heart was ripped out of the team.It is only opinion that he was not good but the stats say he did well. He bought some useful players and turned some players who werre not rated into multi million transfers. As I said i dont want to go into a long debate as nobody will change their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 I'd agree with all of that. Burley was clueless - tactically and in ignoring players who should have started much more often, probably because they didn't join in his drinking games. I'd like to have seen how well Pearson would have done with the funds Burley had available. My guess is pretty blooming well, to be honest. Atrocious how we treated him, and he will as predicted have the last laugh as Leicester pass us on the way down.Of course the same could be said of Wotte against NP as the squad that NP had was of a higher quality. Yes Bart instead of Davis. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Ahhhh that good old 'Blame it on Burley' line. Still we find it impossible to move on, still we look back instead of forwards.... I only comment because the thread title asks if somebody would be kind enough to outline the Administration / Takeover Timetable..... But hey - lets blame Burley for this one as well eh...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 We never achieved the same league position since Glyn Snodin left. The other fact is that although no-one thinks admin is a good thing, there was no way we were ever going to be taken over while we were a plc, therefore as long as someone comes along we will be better off no that Lowe has gone. Of course if no-one comes along, then we will be in the same position as we would have been with Lowe still here, i.e. ****edYou could be right on that Vectis,it could be coincidence as West Ham fell apart when he went there.Funny thing football some faces fit in some clubs not at others. A slight difference there would be no club if no investor comes along.We'll look damned stupid if in our rush to get rid of Lowe we have nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Of course the same could be said of Wotte against NP as the squad that NP had was of a higher quality. Yes Bart instead of Davis. Lol Errrr exactly.... but that is probably not with the agenda so best not go there....! Phew - didn't you think that this one would be 'put to bed' by now...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Errrr exactly.... but that is probably not with the agenda so best not go there....! Phew - didn't you think that this one would be 'put to bed' by now...???Thats football, opinions that become fact when patently they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Thats football, opinions that become fact when patently they are not. In your opinion......for the record can you or Micky show me where anyone on this thread blamed Burley for Administration? I did for not getting us automatic promotion there is a massive difference. I agree its gone off at a tangent as the initial post was about the Administrator but FC decided to turn this into a slanging match again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 but FC decided to turn this into a slanging match again. Indeed, but bizarrely I am the focus of the argument again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 A mile of difference - I am limited in terms of what I can do due to geography, FC chooses to pontificate on balance rather than do anything. Yes because you obviously know me so well.... although you seem to struggle with the concept that presenting all or both POVs and perspectives allows you to make INFORMED and INTELLIGENT choices, rather than being prepared only to listen to one side which is often bigotted, biassed and based on speculation and gossip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Yes because you obviously know me so well.... although you seem to struggle with the concept that presenting all or both POVs and perspectives allows you to make INFORMED and INTELLIGENT choices' date=' rather than being prepared only to listen to one side which is often bigotted, biassed and based on speculation and gossip.[/quote'] God you are so mind-numbingly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Can someone please explain to me why it is that every single thread deteriorates into arguments about past chairmen, players, fans etc? Isn't it time to move forward now and to discuss the topic of each thread rather than history? Or am I being too naive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 I agree its gone off at a tangent as the initial post was about the Administrator but FC decided to turn this into a slanging match again. It was a relevent point - perhaps a little tongue in cheek although I am not laughing, but Alpine is on record as saying admin was better than lowe.... If we run out of time and we have no buyer, and we face liquidation, will he still stick by that point? To me the club is BIGGER than any one man, should always be, yet obviously Alpine does not.... If the worst happens how will you feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 God you are so mind-numbingly boring. Would you care to answer or comment with something intelligent? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 In your opinion......for the record can you or Micky show me where anyone on this thread blamed Burley for Administration? I did for not getting us automatic promotion there is a massive difference. I agree its gone off at a tangent as the initial post was about the Administrator but FC decided to turn this into a slanging match again. But why are we (once again) turning a simple question that has no relation to GB into yet another chance to kick him in the bollux. For the record I don't think that he was that great a manager, neither do I think that he was a bad manager. Yes - we were in a dip in form when he left, and no I don't think we would have flaunted with relegation had he stayed. The magical 7 million - whooooppeeeedoooooooh. How many managers do you know that when given money don't spend it... not many. The club sactioned the managers spending (as always) GB did not have an open purse. Yes he may have bought some duds (show me any manager that hasn't), but no amount of money guarantees you success, and 7 million is hardly kings ransom stuff. Now for all of those who want to jump down my neck and dance upon my grave sobeit - thats my opinion of the man. Now will somebody please, please answer the originators question...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Can someone please explain to me why it is that every single thread deteriorates into arguments about past chairmen, players, fans etc? Isn't it time to move forward now and to discuss the topic of each thread rather than history? Or am I being too naive? Wouldn't it be nice.... eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Can someone please explain to me why it is that every single thread deteriorates into arguments about past chairmen, players, fans etc? Isn't it time to move forward now and to discuss the topic of each thread rather than history? Or am I being too naive? Because I could not resist the comment - we are finally and way too slowly beginning to see teh harsh realities of administration. Only teh naive believe the Football league wont dock points - I suspect they are hoping we are relegated naturally and thus can say no to the deduction based on tehir own rules as they want to avoid docking us 10 opoints to relegate us and then have the whole thing dragged through the courts.... However if no buyer is found by the seasons end it could all be over anyway, if we are forced into liquidation - How anyone wgho calls himeslf a fan of this club can see that as preferable to having an albeit unpopular and error prone chairman at the club is beyond me so its its relevent - Its also a feckin disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 It was a relevent point - perhaps a little tongue in cheek although I am not laughing' date=' but Alpine is on record as saying admin was better than lowe.... If we run out of time and we have no buyer, and we face liquidation, will he still stick by that point? To me the club is BIGGER than any one man, should always be, yet obviously Alpine does not.... If the worst happens how will you feel?[/quote'] Disappointed, gutted and sick as a parrot BUT there will be a Southampton FC somewhere that I will go and support if that club does not have Rupert Lowe anywhere near it. That man has CONTRIBUTED this season to the massive disaster we face and I will not pay a penny more to anything he has a hand in. Read my initial post for my opinion its not about how posh he is or what school he went to but the fact that everything he has touched since coming back has turned to ****e and some fail to even acknowledge he has done anything wrong yet never criticise those the way you do the Alpines. What if we get a better board and club because we got rid of one man...how will you and the Lowe supporters feel then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 although you seem to struggle with the concept that presenting all or both POVs and perspectives allows you to make INFORMED and INTELLIGENT choices' date='[/quote'] I do hope you're not holding yourself up as a model for such objectivity and even handedness;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Now will somebody please, please answer the originators question...???? When he has people with enough funds to buy us....before that he has to weedle out the tyrekickers, timewasters, wannabees and nutjobs. Rumour has it he is waiting on one consortium to prove itself...we have been here loads before especially with Fulthorpe. There then has to be further interviews and further negotiation and acceptance. If there is anyone left after that and to be honest I am totally bricking it that we wont find anyone I cant see that being before the last game of the season given the numebr of packs sent out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 However if no buyer is found by the seasons end it could all be over anyway, if we are forced into liquidation - How anyone wgho calls himeslf a fan of this club can see that as preferable to having an albeit unpopular and error prone chairman at the club is beyond me so its its relevent - Its also a feckin disgrace. Its called a difference of opinion - you should try it, you boring sod. Besides, where have I said, even once, that I want SFC to cease to exist ? Jesus, you go on about intelligent contributions, then make the moronic association that because I feel administration may offer the chance for a change in our fortunes long-term, that it means I want the club to go out of business. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Disappointed, gutted and sick as a parrot BUT there will be a Southampton FC somewhere that I will go and support if that club does not have Rupert Lowe anywhere near it. That man has CONTRIBUTED this season to the massive disaster we face and I will not pay a penny more to anything he has a hand in. Read my initial post for my opinion its not about how posh he is or what school he went to but the fact that everything he has touched since coming back has turned to ****e and some fail to even acknowledge he has done anything wrong yet never criticise those the way you do the Alpines. What if we get a better board and club because we got rid of one man...how will you and the Lowe supporters feel then? I will feel overjoyed if we get a knew and better board - because its ONLY ever been about SFC and loyalty to it rather than loyalty to any one man. Lowe has without doubt made big mistakes that have directly contributed (along with others) to our situation. If however you believe as Alpine does that the potential of no club is prefereable to a club with Lowe, then sorry, but that is outrageous. the Club is way bigger and more important than one man, always has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 I do hope you're not holding yourself up as a model for such objectivity and even handedness;) NO one has ever argued that you cant make a choice and have an opinion one way or another, but you have to at least listen and try and understand -(and be prepared to debate) with bopth sides of the coin - you can think what you like about me UP, but I will keep asking that you refrain from inventing opinion on my behalf so that you can us it in your own responses..... No one is 100% objective or even handed all the time- and of course I include myself in that, but that does not mean you should not try and understand all perspectives, appreaciate and be prepared to listen to both sides.... thats whats often lacking here, the willingness to even listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 ' date=' but that does not mean you should not try and understand all perspectives, appreaciate and be prepared to listen to both sides.... thats whats often lacking here, the willingness to even listen.[/quote'] What stunning lack of self-awareness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 You could be right on that Vectis,it could be coincidence as West Ham fell apart when he went there.Funny thing football some faces fit in some clubs not at others. A slight difference there would be no club if no investor comes along.We'll look damned stupid if in our rush to get rid of Lowe we have nothing at all. Also, look at Leeds, they picked up very soon after he arrived there. He was one of the biggest losses to us, but hardly gets a mention. I once worked out the points average with Snodin and without him, and it was remarkable how his arrival/departure coincided with our poor results (no idea what I did with that now). Its no great surprise, lots of managers only really work well with a decent assistant, Hoddle as a case in point, with Gorman he was very successful, without he was pants. Arry is the same, Joe Jordan is a huge factor in his success I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 some fail to even acknowledge he has done anything wrong yet never criticise those the way you do the Alpines. And therein lies the nub of the problem. Just as there are few people who seem to think the sun shines on Rupert Lowe (Nineteen Canteen springs to mind), there are others who cannot accept he should have any credit for anything (a lot more names in here). Speaking personally, I have found myself leaping to his (RL's) defence in the face of blinkered opposition, not because I necessarily supported him on 100% of issues. I find it difficult to respect anyone who cannot recognise that there are two sides to every decision (for example I don't see many complaining about the corners being shut now we're in admin. Lowe does it and some were treating it like he'd molested their gran). Add to that I have a natural tendency to support the underdog, that's why I've supported Saints since knee high. It's also natural for anyone to embelish their argument to support their point and, if all else fails, I recommend putting FACT! at the end. So there's a rational reason. Alternatively you can accept there are some on this board who have little petty vendettas with each other. It's just a bit sad. FACT! ps. Note the use of past tense. He's no longer with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 What stunning lack of self-awareness... Your stock answer? But utterly misguided. I have listened to and thought about all the cons of the previous regime. They are many, there have been huge errors of judgement. But there is also a great deal of misinformed, speculation that is treated asd fact/propoganda and an irrational sense that this was somehow all deliberate, - or at least thats the only thing that seems to rationalise the irrational hatred from several quarters. Some of these mistakes habve happened in good faith, some have happened because ego got in the way of common sense, and some hav enot been mistakes at all, but strategies that have simply not worked when tried despite having a logical rational for giving them a try - THAT is what is fair and balanced. With Wilde and Cruch the same applies, although I am struggling with Wilde to find a pros. Crouch cant be faulted on strong fan ideals, but from what I have seen, for me there was simply to much heart driving mind - and from business perspective he really should have seen the potential problems if teh 7.5 mil spend failed and as football club chairman, he had the power to veto this at the time... he chose the risky option and it was a mistake IMHO... BUt I dont hate him, how can I? He as well as Lowe believed what they were doing was right even if it did not work out, and life is full of sad folk who sit stuing in their own anger and what does that achieve? FECK ALL. That is wghat I mean about balance, its not about sitting on fences as much as you and your organ grinder UP would like to believe, or about not forming an opinion one way or another, but about forming it AFTER you have acknowledged the few facts we do have and ignoring the speculation, rumour and gossip.... and seeing that in the grand scheme of things, the bitterness and schardenfreude are really not worth it or deserved. And dont try and worm your way out of what you said - there were many who pointed out to you that there is a very good chance that liquidation could follow admin if no buyer is found, and you dismissed this as scaremongering - yet you were still prepared to see this as an acceptable risk to get rid of one bloke.... thats whats unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 It was a relevent point - perhaps a little tongue in cheek although I am not laughing' date=' but Alpine is on record as saying admin was better than lowe.... If we run out of time and we have no buyer, and we face liquidation, will he still stick by that point? To me the club is BIGGER than any one man, should always be, yet obviously Alpine does not.... If the worst happens how will you feel?[/quote'] But...... If we get taken over by a multibillionaire, will YOU agree that admin was better than Lowe? And will YOU come on here and hail Alpine as being the voice of reason and completely proved right? I think we all know the answer to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Its called a difference of opinion - you should try it, you boring sod. Besides, where have I said, even once, that I want SFC to cease to exist ? Jesus, you go on about intelligent contributions, then make the moronic association that because I feel administration may offer the chance for a change in our fortunes long-term, that it means I want the club to go out of business. Idiot. Forgive me if I am wrong Alpine, but I believe you were among those saying you'd welcome administration as a way of getting rid of Lowe. Administration in the midst of a credit crunch runs the risk of there being no buyer there (i.e. the club ceases to exist). Side effect maybe, but a real one. You're interpreting what FC said to a degree in order to make your point. Clearly no fan, certainly no poster here, wants the club to fold. What would we do with our lunch hours? ps. It helps neither of you to twist each others words to escalate your personal battle. Why don't you both try being as great as me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 (edited) Your stock answer? But utterly misguided. I have listened to and thought about all the cons of the previous regime. Frank' date=' just tell Alpine he had you at boring, idiotic moronic f***witted sod and bat your eyelashes. He's bound to get a hard on... Edited 15 April, 2009 by Guided Missile Add f*** wit and sod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Y ps. It helps neither of you to twist each others words to escalate your personal battle. Why don't you both try being as great as me There's that luvvie in you coming out again ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 (edited) But...... If we get taken over by a multibillionaire, will YOU agree that admin was better than Lowe? And will YOU come on here and hail Alpine as being the voice of reason and completely proved right? I think we all know the answer to that! Indeed... Someone needs to tell that fool that liquidation hasnt happened yet. Edited 15 April, 2009 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 But...... If we get taken over by a multibillionaire, will YOU agree that admin was better than Lowe? And will YOU come on here and hail Alpine as being the voice of reason and completely proved right? I think we all know the answer to that! In time the truth will come about how people were interested in buying the club on a few occasions even up to the last hours before administration and under other regimes. It wont be that administration is right it will be the fact that the club will have been sold off at a fraction of its worth and so many more people are interested. Only in a couple of years will we see if we have got out of jail or ruination (if nobody stumps up the money we will know sooner of course) I doubt we will get taken over by a multi billionaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Oh FFS :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 If however you believe as Alpine does that the potential of no club is prefereable to a club with Lowe' date=' then sorry, but that is outrageous. the Club is way bigger and more important than one man, always has been.[/quote'] I have never ever said that I would prefer no club to one that had Lowe in it just the fact that would be the end for me. I would not trust that man anywhere near this club again for all the reasons I have provided yet been ignored by your desire for some anti-Lowe fans to be the culprits here. You go on about one man being bigger than the club but refuse to see why some feel otherwise....middle ground my arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 April, 2009 Share Posted 15 April, 2009 Oh FFS :mad: +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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