hamster Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Should the new owners (pinnacle) consider saving The Saint radio station? I think it was an asset that lost a little when sold and renamed as radio Hampshire. If it hadn't been sold off, those poor souls would have had a pay packet tis month, I understand that they've been left in the lurch. Some very good presenters, I enjoyed waking up and driving the Mrs to work with Gemma McParland. I beleieve that a fair percentage preferred their match coverage too, I know I did. A minor re-vamp maybe such as (more) exclusive player interviews and loads of free ticket comps, putting 'The Brothers' on pre and post match would be a great move too. The two wavelengths licences (107.8 and 107.2) must have been pretty tough to obtain so it would be a real shame to let them go. I think it could really prosper. Thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 bring back Tom Braham as well as Stewart. I doubt it will happen thoguh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 We need to focus on priorities and this really isn't one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Simple answer: No The radio station lost money even when we were in the Premier League. We are now bottom of League 1. What possible justification is there for owning a radio station that cannot even be heard by a sizeable number of the supporters. This was one of many mistakes made by previous regimes and to repeat the mistake would be absolutely stupid. Clearly the business is not viable, thats why it has gone bust. Sorry for the employees but sentiment does not make a successful football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 I beleieve that a fair percentage preferred their match coverage too, I know I did. A minor re-vamp maybe such as (more) exclusive player interviews and loads of free ticket comps, putting 'The Brothers' on pre and post match would be a great move too. The two wavelengths licences (107.8 and 107.2) must have been pretty tough to obtain so it would be a real shame to let them go. I think it could really prosper. Thoughts Even back when it WAS The Saint they had to cut back on their Saints related output as they were in breach of their licence which was for a local station with news and music. So not much scope for increasing the Saints stuff unless they applied for a brand new licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 We should try to improve the matchday catering though, it was the envy of the Premiership a mere 5 years ago....;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Apparently the debts were £70k or lower. See below. Hi Everyone Sorry to say but now the web site has gone so this is the only way we can keep you up to date with developments. Radio hampshire ltd went in to administration 28/05/09 with a minutes notice to staff. The station was switched off by Jason Bryant CEO of Town & Country Broadcasting. Staff made a proposal to keep working for free and keep the station going for another two weeks in hope a new owner could be found. OFCOM had said this was possible to do but Jason Bryant already had his Engineer Paul Anderson removing station Studio Equipment to make this impossible. As you see in the Echo reports the debt is 70k but it could be much lower. In the last 24 hours there has been interest to get Radio Hampshire or a Southampton / Winchester based station back on air. We are talking to several people to see if their interest proposals are serious. If you wish to contact us please e-mail direct or via Facebook Thank you from all at Radio Hampshire for the support. -------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 30 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 May, 2009 bring back Tom Braham as well as Stewart. I doubt it will happen thoguh Tom - Leyton Orient fan. Stewart - Exeter fan. Interesting build ups and phone ins, plus there's 8 of our 10 points for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 30 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Simple answer: No The radio station lost money even when we were in the Premier League. We are now bottom of League 1. What possible justification is there for owning a radio station that cannot even be heard by a sizeable number of the supporters. This was one of many mistakes made by previous regimes and to repeat the mistake would be absolutely stupid. Clearly the business is not viable, thats why it has gone bust. Sorry for the employees but sentiment does not make a successful football club. Online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Did Radio Hampshire get a 10 point deduction by any chance? does that mean if they make a comeback the have to start in Southampton General Hospital Radio league????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The loss of Radio Hampshire is a blow to us expats (ie anyone about 30 miles or more from Southampton) Listening to the commentary is an important part of belonging. One more problem for the new owners to address, Lowe tried to make money from us (badly again) by making us pay to listen, will the new guys now allow us to listen free of charge via the OS? Will they understand that the commentary is actually an important marketing tool not a money making tool? What about territorial rights for Solent? Concerned for the employees but also about how we keep in touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The loss of Radio Hampshire is a blow to us expats (ie anyone about 30 miles or more from Southampton) Listening to the commentary is an important part of belonging. One more problem for the new owners to address, Lowe tried to make money from us (badly again) by making us pay to listen, will the new guys now allow us to listen free of charge via the OS? Will they understand that the commentary is actually an important marketing tool not a money making tool? What about territorial rights for Solent? Concerned for the employees but also about how we keep in touch There is a Facebook group which is where the quote on my earlier post came from. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=9265949767&ref=mf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchi Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The radio station was always a preposterous idea, was never going to make any money. Let's just concentrate on the football and not waste money on any more egotistical side shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Should the new owners (pinnacle) consider saving The Saint radio station? I think it was an asset that lost a little when sold and renamed as radio Hampshire. If it hadn't been sold off, those poor souls would have had a pay packet tis month, I understand that they've been left in the lurch. Some very good presenters, I enjoyed waking up and driving the Mrs to work with Gemma McParland. I beleieve that a fair percentage preferred their match coverage too, I know I did. A minor re-vamp maybe such as (more) exclusive player interviews and loads of free ticket comps, putting 'The Brothers' on pre and post match would be a great move too. The two wavelengths licences (107.8 and 107.2) must have been pretty tough to obtain so it would be a real shame to let them go. I think it could really prosper. Thoughts Spend the money on a manager and players - men needed to get out of this league. Radio stations are for cash cow Premiership clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 advertising revenue in all sectors is down, the idea of a radio station if only for now is a none starter. people saying we must concentrate on football are right in that that is where our priorities lie. but Dubai Phil has a great point about communication, not just with our ex-pat brothers buts also with people right here in the city and beyond. maybe a more sensible idea would be something along the lines of what phil said and do it as a web cast, probably only 2-3hrs a night and also a match day broadcast. i think im right in saying that there will be no need for any license if its done thought the website and with no view of generating extra income through advertising. A small fee to get some ex players to do the show and invite special guests along as well. no need for music(no fees to pay) as anyone who has a computer and a web cam can participate in discussions. im sure we can all agree that another form of media were we can all slag each other off for being crap saints fans is much needed :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The Saint and Saints TV were a very valid idea AT THE TIME. It was all about the huge wealth that the first internet "boom" was going to make, and about making sure that you got a piece of that pie. So many ideas and so little reality. the structure and nature of the whole "Saints TV" package now belongs to that era of the dinosaurs as well. It was useful, but equally it was stale and it simply became a millstone financially. The "New Internet" world of twits and faces and you-tubes evolves quickly, it needs some fresh thinking and it can be done. I joked about the get a mate to put his radio next to his PC and listen through Skype, but the fact is that there are good brains out there in webland who could find ways to COMMUNICATE. The old regime never communicated, they lectured. Those days and that thinking needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 How are fans living outside of Southampton going to listen to games now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 It was a waste of money (£2m+) in the first place and all revenue should go towards the football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 How are fans living outside of Southampton going to listen to games now? Solent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Solent? The BBC block any live content outside the UK ! Perhaps elsewhere in this country you can access it but for sure not abroad ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 In the bit that I posted from the Facebook group, it does say that there are already interested parties looking at taking over the franchise. All may not be lost yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Tom - Leyton Orient fan. Stewart - Exeter fan. Interesting build ups and phone ins, plus there's 8 of our 10 points for you.is it only 2 point for a win in this league then Hamster? Do you know where Tom is or where he broadcasts now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 It was a waste of money (£2m+) in the first place and all revenue should go towards the football club. Exactly. For some reason, nickh and Frank Cousins decided to engage in playground economics yesterday by declaring that the radio station could have been a good investment – if only we hadn’t been relegated. While we were in the Prem, it was a loss-making service. When we were relegated, it was just another millstone round our necks. Lowe may have fancied himself as some kind of media mogul but if his intention was to make the radio station a long-term ‘profit centre’ for the club, it was naïve in the extreme. The economics of commercial radio requires that you club together. You need to share advertising sales staff, backroom staff and as much overhead as you possibly can with as many other radio stations as you can to turn a profit. Many if not most commercial radio stations also share programmes. Even with all this, it can be a struggle to stay in the black. Radio Hampshire was owned by Town and Country Radio, a very, very small (mostly Welsh) radio group. As it turns out, it was too small to make it work. To run a radio station as a ‘stand-alone’ or as part of a small alliance is tempting commercial suicide – and the ONLY justification for it, when the club is wealthy and successful, is as a service to the fans. Yet even with the takeover it’s not clear at the moment that the club will even be able to save parts of the club like the Academy – it may well be cut back to focus all attention on building the first team. In any list of priorities, the radio station is WAY down there – and in my view shouldn’t even be considered. Let someone else take it over if they want to, and let them deal with the constant and distracting (for a football club) struggle of making it pay. And if you want a radio station, pray that one of the big players takes an interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The BBC block any live content outside the UK ! Perhaps elsewhere in this country you can access it but for sure not abroad ! Yeah, my point is that one radio station will take it on. There's simply too many Saints fans and too good an opportunity to charge for the advertising surrounding the games not to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 If it can be run cost neutral, then yes. It can act as a wonderful community tool and promotional aid for the club if run properly... but like most things in our recent past it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 How are fans living outside of Southampton going to listen to games now? I didn't know it was possible in the first place, whenever I've tried to listen to local radio commentary online I get a message saying that the feed is limited to that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 We need to focus on priorities and this really isn't one! well said let the cr-p go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Exactly. For some reason, nickh and Frank Cousins decided to engage in playground economics yesterday by declaring that the radio station could have been a good investment – if only we hadn’t been relegated. While we were in the Prem, it was a loss-making service. When we were relegated, it was just another millstone round our necks. Lowe may have fancied himself as some kind of media mogul but if his intention was to make the radio station a long-term ‘profit centre’ for the club, it was naïve in the extreme. The economics of commercial radio requires that you club together. You need to share advertising sales staff, backroom staff and as much overhead as you possibly can with as many other radio stations as you can to turn a profit. Many if not most commercial radio stations also share programmes. Even with all this, it can be a struggle to stay in the black. Radio Hampshire was owned by Town and Country Radio, a very, very small (mostly Welsh) radio group. As it turns out, it was too small to make it work. To run a radio station as a ‘stand-alone’ or as part of a small alliance is tempting commercial suicide – and the ONLY justification for it, when the club is wealthy and successful, is as a service to the fans. Yet even with the takeover it’s not clear at the moment that the club will even be able to save parts of the club like the Academy – it may well be cut back to focus all attention on building the first team. In any list of priorities, the radio station is WAY down there – and in my view shouldn’t even be considered. Let someone else take it over if they want to, and let them deal with the constant and distracting (for a football club) struggle of making it pay. And if you want a radio station, pray that one of the big players takes an interest.You may think it is playground economics. When you are drawing in plenty of revenue as in the PL a £1m investment is not a problem and it would have developed as more funds became available. It was picked up as far as Marlbough Bournemouth and Portsmouth. All part of a package to make the club modern and assesible. Youy dont think it was any good, that wa your opinion.Obviously in the CCC or L1 it is a non runner.The same goes for saintstv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The Saint won awards and plaudits for increased listener numbers. If as Colinjb suggests, it can be run on neutral costs then I think it should be ran up the flag pole to see if anyone salutes it. Imagine the figures (and ad revenue) fior a Friday night exclusive phone in with Matt and the new owner and manager? Not wishing to be disresectful but maybe they needed a change to the ad team's focus. I would like to ask also, if anyone knows what is happening re. the Radio Hampshire local heroes awards? I think they were to be held at the Concorde Club, if the bokings still active, maybe the new owners could take over the reins of that one as a gesture of intenet regarding making us as community club again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scally Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The BBC block any live content outside the UK ! Perhaps elsewhere in this country you can access it but for sure not abroad ! Hi Eurosaint this may help anybody outside the UK, try using this proxy server. I'm not sure it will definately work but it should. http://worldproxy202.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 You may think it is playground economics. When you are drawing in plenty of revenue as in the PL a £1m investment is not a problem and it would have developed as more funds became available. It was picked up as far as Marlbough Bournemouth and Portsmouth. All part of a package to make the club modern and assesible. Youy dont think it was any good, that wa your opinion.Obviously in the CCC or L1 it is a non runner.The same goes for saintstv Nick, as usual, the problem in any argument with you is that you just make stuff up. I said ‘I don’t think the radio station is any good’, did I? Where, exactly? Then you wave your airy-fairy wand. The signal reach is supposed to make the station profitable? The station makes the club ‘modern’? Sheesh! Radio has been around since the ark. Forget it – the business model of a virtually stand-alone, fully-fledged radio station is history. The real question is: What should the club do with its live radio/internet rights to the games? After all, that’s the main reason people who can’t get to the game want to tune in. The new regime has two basic choices. It can sell those rights to their local broadcast stations. Coventry have a deal for their matches with their local BBC station, as do Crystal Palace. Wolves and West Brom sell their games to their local commercial radio stations and their associated internet sites. And so on. Or the club can set up a stand-alone internet site and, say, add a small upcharge on the membership card as a subscription for access during games. The collapse of Radio Hampshire is no reason to deny fans who can’t get to the games the ability to listen in. In the grand scale of things, given all the challenges the new regime faces in rebuilding the club from the ruins left behind by Lowe, this is small beer. But I’ve no doubt it’ll be addressed by Pinnacle, assuming and hoping all goes to plan in the next twenty days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 The Saint and Saints TV were a very valid idea AT THE TIME. It was all about the huge wealth that the first internet "boom" was going to make, and about making sure that you got a piece of that pie. So many ideas and so little reality. I'm afraid I would have to disagree Phil. It was a very poor business decision and before people suggest it was a "subsidised fan service" then I'm afraid they're wide of the mark as it 's original intention (noted throughout a number of Annual Reports and statements) was for it to be a profitable enterprise. Instead it drained money out of the Club. Around that time I had been involved in a number of football media initiatives (ITV Digitial, Leeds cable TV, Granada's, NTL's and Carlton's investments in football) and it was hard enough making some of them work, so the idea that we could turn a profit from a radio station linked to a provincial club was always wishful thinking. Apprently when Lowe & co offered ££££'s for the licence the look on the owners faces was akin to Seth Johnson and his agents when Risdale offered him that outrageous contract!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 It was picked up as far as Marlbough LOL. Must have been a complete freak if anyone ever picked it up in Marlborough. The town is at the bottom of a bllody great hill to the south, and its difficult enough to pick up anything local. Hampshire Radio faded anywhere near Winchester on most receivers, which is exactly how it was designed. You couldn't even get it on the Isle of Wight FFS. That doesn't mean it was bad, but with huge amounts of supporters outside the direct Southampton area it was never goign to work. As for listening online, great, I tend not to do such things when driving. The idea of a radio station for a club is nowadays completely laughable, even the top stations in the country are struggling and only surviving by merging. Next someone will suggest Saints TV back on Sky. Hello, we are in Division 3!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Could the club broadcast through SWF? That WOULD be good PR and if only available to Full members would go some way to reaying the mods and owners for their relentless support in troubled times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Redstripe Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 How are fans living outside of Southampton going to listen to games now? I live more than 100 miles away but could never hear commentaries. Out of interest, how was it possible? Did you have to pay? I really didn't know it was possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Nick, as usual, the problem in any argument with you is that you just make stuff up. I said ‘I don’t think the radio station is any good’, did I? Where, exactly? Then you wave your airy-fairy wand. The signal reach is supposed to make the station profitable? The station makes the club ‘modern’? Sheesh! Radio has been around since the ark. Forget it – the business model of a virtually stand-alone, fully-fledged radio station is history. The real question is: What should the club do with its live radio/internet rights to the games? After all, that’s the main reason people who can’t get to the game want to tune in. The new regime has two basic choices. It can sell those rights to their local broadcast stations. Coventry have a deal for their matches with their local BBC station, as do Crystal Palace. Wolves and West Brom sell their games to their local commercial radio stations and their associated internet sites. And so on. Or the club can set up a stand-alone internet site and, say, add a small upcharge on the membership card as a subscription for access during games. The collapse of Radio Hampshire is no reason to deny fans who can’t get to the games the ability to listen in. In the grand scale of things, given all the challenges the new regime faces in rebuilding the club from the ruins left behind by Lowe, this is small beer. But I’ve no doubt it’ll be addressed by Pinnacle, assuming and hoping all goes to plan in the next twenty days.Verbal Im sorry that my badly worded reply made it seem that you didnt like the station, I meant you didnt like the deal. At the time of purchase we were in the PL and whether it made a small loss /profit or breakeven it was small beer.It had a lot of invisible earnings for tickets/merchandise etc. I recall it advertising games and giving out service info for the fanbase at the same time giving the impression we were a forward thinking club. It is a minor problem in the big picture if you are in the PL. Yes 200k is a lot of money but is nothing when you were paying players 20k a week. I still think if we were in the PL it was something we could have afforded and was told by one of the staff that there was only 1 person selling advertising. To me it was not only about providing match day commentary as most of the fans were at the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticksaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I live more than 100 miles away but could never hear commentaries. Out of interest, how was it possible? Did you have to pay? I really didn't know it was possible. Saints tv £20 a year if you were a member.Think i`ve lost my money this year :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Hi Eurosaint this may help anybody outside the UK, try using this proxy server. I'm not sure it will definately work but it should. http://worldproxy202.com/ Thanks Scally, we'll give it a try next season unless there is an easier alternative ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 To me it was not only about providing match day commentary as most of the fans were at the games Poor commentary nick.......it get fading out, many I know went back to Solent. I have to say though, when it became radio Hampshire....it improved, but it should of covered all of Hampshire, no-one in Basinstoke could recieve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I thought it was OK and at least I could tune in at work to listen to the game. It's absolutely terrible that the staff have lost their jobs, I know how they must feel having recently lost mine (soon back in work though) but this is an expense which the football club can currently ill afford. Unless the new owner has a big pot with enough to gamble a little on a radio station? I'm not really quite up to suggesting how he/she spends their money, be it on players, management team or radio station, because I'm quite grateful that we have a club to support next season. That's used my luck up for the year I would imagine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Saints tv £20 a year if you were a member.Think i`ve lost my money this year :-( I don't think this is necessarily true. Many teams have a subscription web-based tv station (albeit pod-cast style) and give licence to a local radio station to provide match commentary, without actually owning one or having one on their own premises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 i feel sorry for those who lost their jobs but as a club we have to cut our cloth to reflect where we are in the football league, anything that does not contribute to the target of getting back to the premiership should be ditched now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanFranciscoSaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I have been supporting Saints all my life, and had a season ticket for many years, but in 1999 I moved to Santa Rosa, California. Even my wife (local girl) is crazy about Saints. We would not know what we would do without our live matchday commentary. We subscribe to SaintsTV, and we would be distraught if we had that taken away from us. When we score we both jump out of our chairs, shouting COYR!!! If we are doing badly, then we both hurl abuse at the person(s) responsible! It's just like we are at the game, and the outcome of the result effects our whole weekend (good or bad). The BBC do not allow braodcasts outside of England, so we are screwed there. Please Saints, do not get rid of the online matchday commentary. It means the world to us, as I'm sure it does to many others around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 If Michael Tabor is our new owner ( which I strongly believe is the case) , then I very much doubt the Radio Hampshire will be back on air, if they are, then it's a safe bet that it won't be broadcasting from St Marys and won't have access to Saints matches. Why? Because one Tabors portfolio of businesses is the Galaxy Radio network, which his son is CEO of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 (edited) It had a lot of invisible earnings for tickets/merchandise etc. I recall it advertising games and giving out service info for the fanbase at the same time giving the impression we were a forward thinking club. This why we should resurect it, it is an excellent vehicle to promote upcoming games and snippets of info to supporters. I belieive that we NEED this station to let people know whats going on, it's going to get really exciting next season and this opportunity must not be missed. Local companies will be queeuing up to advertise once the revolution starts. Let's not become a backward thinking club ever again, it was and should still be an assett to our club. Jeez, even the official website has been sold on the cheap. Whatever you say, the OS is a good website and again we are entering a period of our history where we need as much control of the information technology as possible, let's not become another clone club who 'fit in' with what the FL decision makers want, they are a bunch of arseholes that have just taaken 10 points of us, they didn't need to do that the bastards. Let's NOT toe the line, I say. Let's go it alone. The Saint radio station will add many hundreds to the gates imho. Edited 1 June, 2009 by Big John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 For the last five years or so, I've paid the 30 pound fee to SFC in order to receive the TV highlights of the games on Saints TV and, more importantly, to receive live commentary of each game. For those of us living outside of the city (especially those living overseas), this kind of service is essential in order that we can follow the weekly exploits of our team in a meaningful way. I would, of course, continue to be willing to pay for this service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Matty, what do ya reckon? Can we have The Saint back please? Who knows how to start one of those facebook group thingies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Spend the money on a manager and players - men needed to get out of this league. Radio stations are for cash cow Premiership clubs. Exactly. SFC will be on a tight budget next season. No point in having anything other than positive cash flow from non footy operations and the radio station is not a money maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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