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This. Don't the EU negotiations start just 11 days after the election result? Will be a right cluster **** if it is a hung parliament.

I've read bits on all of those thanks. Sunspots and changes in the Earths orbit have an effect but I haven't seen any evidence of it being the driver of the recent, relatively rapid change. The other theories, as you say, are in their infancy so it would be foolish to ignore what we do know when the future of mankind is potentially at stake. We know the properties of CO2 and other greenhouse gasses, we know we are pumping billions of tons out every year, and we know the climate is changing relatively fast. At the moment you are like someone taking a **** in a bath and trying to think up a weird and wonderful theory of why the water is turning yellow.

The climate is always changing and always will - there is always something causing it to change, things we can observe and measure. Hurry up with your cosmic ray research because you are ignoring the screamingly obvious. Not great science.

Yeah, they would be caused by something, just like something is changing the climate now.

Go back long enough and earth was just a ball of gas, it's the rate of change that's vitally important.

Caroline Lucas is the only one out of that lot I would trust to run the country - it's a shame our ridiculous electoral system means voting for Green is a wasted vote, unless you live in Brighton. It was obvious last night why the Tories will win with a landslide - Labour, Lib Dem, Green, SNP and the Welsh pretty much say the same thing - so it doesn't matter where you live, the vote will be split. Whilst on the other side the Tories only have Nut Job to compete with, and he is a complete joke. A sooner this election is over the better - let's just get on with watching May make a complete **** up of Tory Brexit.

It's a choice between a bunch of nasty c**ts and a bunch of idiots - I think much will depend on which voters can be arsed to walk down to the polling station.

Of course they were, with the Lib Dems.

Of course they were, with the Lib Dems.

To be fair they implemented quite a few things from their manifesto: https://whatthehellhavethelibdemsdone.com

According to the Stoke fan I chatted to at the last game they are only filling that corner in to stop the wind.

I bought May was awful, after every question she just seemed to gurn, then just state the obvious while she thought of which sound bite to come out with. You could actually see her smile every time an answer led itself to one of her over-used statements. I can see why she didn't want to do the TV debates. Corbyn came across as much more intelligent, passionate and articulate. All irrelevant though because of the IRA, Trident and NATO things Will be toxic with the electorate.

May is just repeating herself over and over again

Everything you say is of course correct but you miss two important points. 1. They were not soldiers yes, but they believed they were. That's quite important when you are trying to understand their motivation behind what they do. 2. When a Muslim says "brothers" or "my people" they just mean people of the same faith - wether they have been to the places or actually met the people is irrelevant.

Everything you say is of course correct but you miss two important points. 1. They were not soldiers yes, but they believed they were. 2. When a Muslim says "brothers" or "my people" they just mean people of the same faith - wether they have been to the places or actually met the people is irrelevant.

Best tell that to Boris Johnson, David Cameron and the former head of MI5 then because they all agree with Corbyn on this. The words of one of the 7/7 bombers: "Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world. And your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters. Until we feel security, you will be our targets. And until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people we will not stop this fight. We are at war and I am a soldier. Now you too will taste the reality of this situation." From one of Lee Rigbys killers: "I am a soldier of Allah," he told the jury. "It is a war between Islam and those militaries that intervene in Muslim lands."

Yeah obviously. But when it comes to recruiting people for their death cult "we hate their way of life and they bomb our innocent children" probably works better than "we just hate their way of life".

Don't forget Boris Johnson, David Cameron and the former head of MI5. They all said the same remember.

Where's your proof of that?

Talking to the IRA is why we have peace now, I don't see any problem with it. It obviously doesn't go down well with many flag waving mongs of the electorate but talking worked, not Thatchers approach.

But Cameron and our current foreign secretary said exactly the same thing. Looks like the Tories are trying to twist his words to mean something they don't for political gain. Problem is they, along with former MI5 chiefs have said the exact same words.

Our current defence secretary slating what he thought was Corby's words but was in fact our foreign secretary's. complete ****ing car crash. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-michael-fallon-slates-jeremy-10508519 The Tories are just trying to use the Manchester bombing to score political points. Corbyn never said anything wrong.

So Cameron said it, the former head of MI5 said it. Yet when Corbyn says it the media jump on him and try to twist his words. ISIS hate our way of life and want to turn the World into a global caliphate. But it is just blatantly obvious that bombing and killing innocent people in Muslim countries makes it easier for them to recruit. The bloke who killed Lee Rigby mentioned this in his own words, the 7/7 bombers I think said the same. ISIS even mentioned the RAF in their pathetic attempt to justify what happened in Manchester.

Didn't the Queen shake the hand of one of the ****s?

I thought he come across a lot better than May. Doesn't stand a cat in hells chance of winning though, he lost any slight chance of making inroads when this Manchester thing happened. Security is now a bigger issue and his IRA thing and perceived passivism won't sit well with the electorate. Labour will get a right kicking.