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It looks like they are taking a bit of a gamble. If Saints are top of the league after a few games then SMS will be packed and they will make alot more money by having less ST holders. Remember, only the old farts among us can remember a Saints season where we challenged for the top spot - expect sell out crowds towards the end of the season if we're top. Also if the season goes to plan and we are promoted, there will be loads of people buying "New" STs for the next season in the Championship at the higher price than if they renewed. The problem is if we have a bad start we could see very low crowds at some games. Trying to convice people to part with £25 odd for Saints v Dagenham & Redbridge on a cold November Tuesday evening if we're in the bottom half will not be easy.

No one is anti-Cortese, just questioning a few decisions made by the club, nowt wrong with that. If anything the club would welcome honest, constructive criticism and feedback.

My guess is that they do not want to many fans with Season Tickets because they make more per game from tickets sold individually. Cortese is assuming that we will be top of the league and SMS will be packed regardless. And he's right, if we do run away with it then they will make more money by having fewer Season Ticket holders. Also by not selling Half STs the club can sting fans for the more expensive "new" STs the season after in the Championship. The problem is if we start slow then attendances will be a lot lower. I'm not that bothered by the payment plan thing in itself just disappointed in the club's attitude.

Exactly, we are all grateful that Marcus saved the club and if Cortese had a role in that then we are thankful to him too. But they didn't buy Saints because they like the sound of Come On You Reds drifting on the solent breeze over Woolston, they invested in a business for the same reason Manderic, Gaydamack etc did - to make money. nothing wrong with that but it doesn't mean you should be scared of speaking up when you think something is being done wrong. To many plumbs on here live in a little fantasy world where they think posting on an internet forum will cause Leibherr to do a runner.

Probably because many can't hear because they have their heads stuck firmly in the sand.

Why does there need to be significant dissatisfaction to discuss the issue on a web forum? That's the problem, someone raises a genuine issue and you get plebs crying like a bunch of babies. There is no reason why we should tread on egg shells around Cortese, if we think something has been done wrong it's right to say so, and you can discuss it in a rational manner without getting all defensive through fear of Leibherr doing a runner because of what a few saddos on a Web Forum have said.

You don't think they could have handled this year's season ticket sales any better then?

He's got a point though. I've never pimped before but I bet it's harder work than flipping burgers at McDs. Same goes for theiving and mugging, you would have to be in pretty good shape.

Virtually all Saints fans I have spoke to think withdrawing the repayment plan at short notice is out of order. Did you just pull the 8-10 figure out of your anus like all the other rubbish you spout on here?

People forget that England are rubbish at football and generally always have been. A second round exit isn't underperforming, it's about average for us. There is no crisis, nothing needs to be done but accept what the rest of the world already know.

In sales talk "very steady" = not good

LOL at being accused of having few braincells by someone who doesn't even know the meaning of incitement!

Then there's 5 years for RAPING A 13-MONTH-OLD BABY. Thats right, if your a football fan and you shake 5 fences and you are as bad as this guy.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3078216.stm

Or you can mug someone and not go down... http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/5076201.Teenager_avoids_jail_over_mugging/ If you're a football fan just be carefull not to shake any fences on your getaway.

You can break somones jaw in 3 places and not even go to jail... http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/8181029.Man_avoids_jail_for_GBH_pub_attack/ But shake a fence you get a year because you just watched a football game.

Anyone who thinks a year in jail for shaking a fence is not harsh is a nob.

How does their situation differ to the Leeds one?

Releasing the fans at the same time was dumb. It's standard practice for away fans to be locked in at hostile grounds. My guess is that it's something to do with the traffic because Northam rd is always closed after the game so I expect they want to get the away coaches back to the park and ride as quickly as possible.

Forcing fans to buy tickets on a match by match basis means the club get more cash per ticket as our ticket prices are quite high, especially when you add on the new booking fee. I don't get the issue with the finance either, if you pay by installments you should expect to pay a bit more - that's how Lowe originally had it set up, it's quite easy to do and is obviously cost effective as it had run for years and virtually all other clubs do it. If we have a good start the club might profit from what Cortese has done because SMS will probably be packed out regardless. But even if that's the case I think the way it has been handled is disgusting. I certainly will spend as little as possible on anything SFC if this is their attitude.

You don;'t even have a Season Ticket so your opinion counts for nothing anyway. And you are a c@ck.

Yeah, scaring a couple of kids - that deserves a year behind bars.

They could easliy have announced prices dependent on what league we were in and told us in January that there was no installments. I don't know the exact date they announced the details but I'm pretty sure it was early June and the deadline to renew is Weds so 28 days is not far out if it's wrong. Try to engage your brain before you start thumping your stumpy fat fingers down on the keyboard in future.

You think announcing Season Ticket details 3 months late, removing a payment option without giving any prewarning, then demanding up front payment in 28 days time is the right way to treat the most loyal supporters?

Are you 12 years old or just being deliberately obtuse? I find it hard to believe that you are as stupid as you seem. If you are none of those could you please explain how Corteses' policy on season tickets encourages more people to renew.

That's what annoys me the most, some fat arsed copper was sat here for days and days going through that CCTV footage - all at our expense. God knows how many serious crimes were being committed while the lazy **** was sat there munching on doughnuts. I expect they needed a servere sentence to justify their obscene waste of money. At least the Tories are gonna cut their overtime and hopefully there should be a few old bill on the dole in the coming months.