Noodles34

didn't know we were mates? Didn't call you a mong or spaz, bought that up once before, basically sames as homophobia and racism, so that makes you a bit of a knob as well as being dyslexic, dont know why you bother.....mate..

clearly not in the spelling dept. eh?

usual over reaction to a loss, welcome to football, you win some and you lose some, get over it, think we are in general heading in the right direction. The sacking of Ap has put us back a season, any fool can see that, but maybe it might work out better in the long run and we might get lucky this season, who knows? As I said, this is the sort of football ups and downs i've been living with for the last 20 odd years!

good for you Turkish, good for you...

I completely agree with you in that respect, but some people, (you included) 'drone' on about certain issues that they cannot let go, you about crap basically, or maybe i am confusing you with Dune, anyway, along with the Alpine bloke above (that doesn't even go) you just start things for a reaction or a fight, basically a bit of attention seeking. Look at your post count and then think about other things you could be doing in life instead of starting threads about the same old, same old or how people dress to go to football matches, as i said, attention for attention's sake, but I guess thats the drug that you full timers need to keep you going.

God, get a life mate

I used to be a mod, still at heart I guess, never did get that LI 150 though, maybe it will come during my mid life crisis?

funny that, i actually noticed on saturday how the actual playing style had changed, so your doubts are unfounded in that respect. However, your original point "You mean the Team that was Lifeless, tactically clueless, and playing Hoofball from the 46th minute omwards ?? Yes, Pardew had certainly brought us forward and made us a Force to be reckoned with in Div 1" is the bit you dont have a clue about, in fact the second line to be exact. You can say what you like about the style and you clearly have, don't really agree that we were watching 'hoofball' at all, though it was direct from the defense that is for sure it is certainly not comparable to Stoke etc but it did get results. Lifeless? Don't get that and tactically clueless? sometimes maybe, but then so was Fergie on saturday. But its your second line that is oh-so-wrong, Pardew did bring us forward, we went to Wembley and we are now a force to be reckoned with (well, eventually we should be) though that is as down to the money perhaps as much as Pardew. But in the end results don't lie, and forget footballing morals and purities etc, as a fan I just want to see us win, and we mostly did under Pardew. You didn't like that, fair enough, so if we carry on playing as we are under Adkins etc but only pick up 5 out of every 9 points that will be okay with you?

oh dear, some people really haven't got a clue..

so why are you on this thread then?

oh dear mate, what have you let yourself in for by starting a thread when you have only posted seven times! Dont you know, its full timers only that can discuss finances etc....

or reverse phycology?

Ah, another on the list of 'full timers' that feel that they need to dictate and judge what other people decide to post, whats that word a few of the mongs on here use? Oh yeah, its mong!

like it!

Fair enough answer, one that actaully puts some substance behind a grievance rather than NI is a **** etc........

thats hardly nick's fault then.

point being though is that SISA etc are berated for having a small majority of opinions whereby this poll is also a small snapshot of opinions. Clearly there is a simple answer, SISA and The Saints Trust are not relevant, not because of its leaders etc, but probably because Cortese couldn't give a flying **** what they said anyway! And if a lobby group is not listened too its pretty much redundant. Perhaps some of the full timers on here might want to start up one when the need arises (and saints being saints, the need 'will' arise one day) or maybe they much prefer sniping behind their keyboards because they simply can't be arsed and would prefer to live their sad little lives twisted in jealously and bitterness? Anyway, off to the game.... UTS

Exactly!

stand corrected, 2.3%, still not a massive figure though is it?

I would imagine most people don't want anyone speaking 'for them', as the election turnouts usually suggest. No argument about whether people believe in SISA etc, just ridicously personal on someone who answers a question, Jesus, what about those people who were interviewed outside SMS when Marcus died, surely they don't represent us do they? They should have said "no comment" when the reporter asked about his passing away, otherwise by commenting they could be accused on here by some very sad individuals of promoting themselves as the voice of the fans when someone has simply asked a question. Maybe the guy who does the new fanzine should be hung, drawn and quartered too, he has spelt out an opinion and by the same implications levied at SISA etc here, they should not be doing it. Please someone explain to me what is different about SISA or NI answering a question, matey writing a fanzine or Charlie from Bitterne in the Echo saying "Think we should have kept Pardew"?

oh, look at one of the full timers calling his attention seeking authority!

0.023% represention of Saints fans saying that SISA and the Saints Trust don't represent them.

You need to get a life mate, really. Why are you this bitter about a supporters group, its members and a local paper? Where exactly has The Echo printed that SISA and The Trust represent 95% of us, can you point me there please, to be fair that would validate a little of your argument. As for their demands on The Leibherr family, guess they are old and wise enough to deal with this in the manner that it should be dealt with and I think Cortese has already proved that no one dictates to him. The question asked in the OP was 'do they represent us?' Clearly the answer is no from 'this forums' members (how much of the Saints fan base does this forum represent by the way? In fact how many of voted in the poll? Divide that by say, 23,000 regular supporters, what do you get as a %, is any bigger than those who will turn up at today’s meeting, genuinely don't know but I bet there isn’t much difference, so the whole argument implodes.). But it’s the personal attacks on certain people that I find OTT, that was not the point of this thread was it? Otherwise why don't we start one titled 'Do you think NI, RC etc are ****s?’ I know Nick, he's not a mate but at the same time I got no problem with him, he is a Saints fan, pretty loyal one at that and I believe that he has always acted in the best interests of the club, and that goes for some of the others too, maybe their actions are debatable sometimes but fair play to RC for throwing coins at RL, ****ing fair play, everyone else, (me included) sit here and gripe through a keyboard whilst he actually wanted to show a poignant action displaying his (and many others) exasperation with the ego maniac. This paranoid jealousy is almost laughable, if not laughable, very, very sad

Personally, I think this is well OTT. SISA don’t speak for me for sure, but Jesus, who cares? Steve Grant doesn't speak for me even though I am a member of his site etc. It does not bother me in the slightest when he is quoted in the paper, in the same way it doesn't bother when Nick is on Sky or TV or quoted in The Echo, and that goes for Mike too. Whether SISA or the Saints Trust is relevant anymore is clearly debatable, but again, if a group of no doubt 'well meaning' Saints fans want to start a group amongst themselves, so what? SISA were very relevant during the Branfoot era and it has to be said, along with some other people were instrumental in ending his reign of terror. Since then the internet has taken over for fans' to voice their dissatisfactions etc. just like on here. As for the personal attacks on Nick etc. its pathetic and seemingly done out of jealousy, what other reason is there? Don't tell me that its because he comes across like he speaks for the fans etc. he never says that (Do you really think David Cameron speaks for you or me? He's the British PM, the argument laboured here could be applied in the same manner)and anyone who thinks that the audience do think he represents the Saints' fans must underestimate the common sense of those who watch or read . Nick is a decent fan who probably attends more away games than most on here attend at SMS, and if The Echo or Sky ring him why should he not voice his opinion? Once again, as Dam Kerrins made quite clear, they welcome views form anyone but it seems much more convenient for the 'full timers' on here to sit behind their avatars and hidden identities and slag off (personally) Nick, pathetic really.