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These 2 comments are not necessarily contradictory though. Nowhere in the 2nd part does Reed say he has anything to do with 1st team tactics or selection, only an overarching responsibility for coaching, scouting and recruitment for all teams (1st, u21, u18, u16 Academy kids). Almost certainly he delegates the responsibility for each team/group to coaches, scouts and recruitment specifically for that team, in the case of the 1st team to Adkins.

Agree, quality wise on an individual basis we are better than them, but they are better organised in general, though they looked very shaky at the back yesterday. Pity we did not test their keeper more, I suspect he may not be the best, certainly not compared to Vorm.

If so why have Reading not dismissed McDermott, exactly same situation as us, and they have not even won a game so far, and even conceded 7 against Arsenal Reserves. How about QPR, less points than us, no wins, still have hung on to Hughes, agreed Hughes did not get them promoted?

So it seems that the main reason for the exodus before half time is that many of our supporters are incontinent. Debunks the notion that the bed wetters don't go to games. Clearly some of them do.

Agreed, most round me thought he was one of the worst seen and that he was probably going out for dinner with some of the Swansea lads afterwards to celebrate. Didn't realise until after the game it was Andre Mariner, what happened to Dowd who was supposed to be in charge?

Sorry, but it was not Yoshi's howler that caused the goal, it was a poor pass back after a complete cock up by Gazza with this awful pass out, and quick thinking by Dyer. Unfortunately though the real problem was the lead up to the goal in the first place. Jack Cork had a very good game, but he was squarely to blame for fannying about with the ball in the middle of the park and then making a completely unnecessary pass back to Yoshi. Puts a defence under pressure when there is no need. When you are slightly nervous at the back the last thing you need is dodgy balls back from midfield. Shocking decision making by Corky, for me otherwise he would probably have been man of the match. I agree Yoshi and Gazza should have dealt with it, but the root cause of the problem was not with either of them. We play the ball back into defence far too often in my opinion, sometimes the better option is simply to turn and belt it up field, when who knows what might happen.

Agree with you completely on the 2nd half. Like you I was too far away at the match for the one in the first half, but having just watched Match Choice on Sky it was a bit lame, but I still wouldn't class it as a dive. 1st one in the 2nd half the pundit on Sky was sucked in and thought it was a dive because AL was alreay falling when the foul came in, not true, AL was turning to go left, when Williams clattered him. Last one was just blatant body check by Monk, only doubt with that one was whether it was in the area, but I believe it was. Lallana proved time and again in the game that he is not a diver, staying on his feet many times when he was clattered.

Mike Williamson

Careful, you cannot spout logic on here and get away with debunking Mr T's conspiracy theories that he likes to make up in between his telesalesist life. Mr T has told us that Don Cortese picks the team, chooses the players, inserts clauses into contracts, decides on the formation to be used, and the times of the substitutions. There is no doubt about the factual content of Mr T's posts, so you of course must be imagining things, like the rest of us. Looked very much like the same way we have played more often that not this season, albeit with Jack Cork making a noticeable difference, and Luke Ward knowing how to play at left back.

Comedy defending, but the goal was caused by the midfield, I think it was Cork, fannying around with the ball and eventually passing it back and putting Yoshi and gazza under unneccessary pressure. Sure thy should have done better, but we shot ourselves in the foot by schoolboy error in the middle of the park. Lucky we didn't get caught a few more times when Gaston gave the ball away cheaply on 2 or 3 occassions.

This is just absolute crap. We go tin behind them loads of times today, on both sides. Also it was great seeing NA not making subs for the sake of it. None were needed today (apart from Fox for Shaw) and NA called it absolutely right. Still easy for TDD to have a pop on the basis of nothing.

No, what they do instead is trot out the "Adkins is under pressure from the board" line, even though they have no idea whether he is or is not. It then becomes self-fulfilling.

I hope this is a joke. I wasn't convinced it was until I got to the Chaplow remark.

Trouble is Glasgow is not the only one, the BBC seem to have the same trouble: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20237630 2006: Following Brian Laws's departure to Sheffield Wednesday, Atkins is named S****horpe manager.

But only one person was prepared to put his money where his mouth is, well 2 I guess if you count Mummy's Boy fronted by MLT. If we were such a great investment and anyone could see it why were there not dozens of others beating a path to our door with wedges of spondoolicks?

No he hasn't, Turkish started all this. Just like he started the Gazza to Brizzle City rumour :-)

So does anyone have any genuine knowledge (not rumour) about the Boruc situation. I posted a couple of comments pre-match last night expecting Boruc to play because there was a statement last week from Saints that the issue had been investigated and he had been cleared. Then it turns out watching Sky that the issue has not been resolved. Sometimes it would be useful to know what the feck is actually going on at Saints. I cannot believe it takes over a week to sort that out, either he did something wrong, fine him or sack him, or he didn't do anything wrong in which case play him or at least put him on the bench.

Hoddle cannot manage without Gorman. Like Clough and Taylor, you either have both or none.

Its not the NA being sacked that would really worry me (though I'd be disappointed) its the Plan B that would be really worrying. Les Reed and Dean Wilkins caretaker manager for our upcoming important games, we tried with Wilkins once before, please note again. The time for Adkins to have gone was 3 or 4 weeks ago, not now.

We'll see

Is he OK? Must have missed that.

True, although it was based only on the 2nd half when we were chasing the game. Even so we did look a shambles in the middle.

Why would be want a complete wuss like Savage (Savage by name but not by nature).

The fact that Saints came out and said that after studying the video evidence there was no case to answer last week seems to have been missed by some.

Boruc incident was cleared up last week by SFC on Monday, stated categorically that there was no case for Boruc to answer. Gazza loan was a made up rumour which seemed to eminate on this board IMHO Boruc will play and Davis will be on the bench, and thus someone will probably start another rumour about Gazza.