SaintBobby

I'd target points, not position. 50 points should be the target IMHO. I'm less bothered about a target position, that depends so much on other teams. 50 points could be 7th or 13th.

Technically, it's 12 goals. If we lose 12-0 and Villa lose to Wigan 5-4, we'd be down* *assuming Wigan have beaten Arsenal and Sunderland don't lose to Spurs.

As I've pointed out on other threads, we are safe for sure as long as we don't lose to Stoke by 12 or more goals.

To be clear, the only way we can now be relegated is if we lose by 12 goals or more against Stoke and Wigan win their two remaining games. (It is not a swing on goals. if we lose 6-0 to Stoke and Villa lose 6-0 to Wigan, we still stay up).

Updated following today's games. We're now essentially safe with 40 points.

Yep. But rather less room for comfort given the current Norwich and Newcastle scores.

Not scored in 345 minutes now. Bit disappointing.

Definitely. Makes us safe.

Everything going wrong in the other games, sadly.

Good news. He's suspended for next week's game.

Well, after that breathless Watford game, just a reminder of what we want from today's other games: Stoke v Spurs. (currently 1-1) Spurs win. To keep the pressure on Arsenal to win on Tuesday and give us a good chance of leapfrogging Stoke. Everton v West Ham. Everton win. Means we may still have a chance of catching West Ham (although not much of one) Fulham v Liverpool. Liverpool win and preferable by a cricket score. Gives us a good chance of catching Fulham. Norwich v West Brom. West Brom win. Would mean Norwich having to beat Man City away to catch us. QPR v Newcastle. QPR win. Would mean Newcastle having to beat Arsenal at home to catch us. Man Utd v Swansea (4pm). Irrelevant to us.

Gees. Incredible. Feel sorry for Leicester. But not for Nugent, obviously. The skate c**t.

Really. Was it a straight red v WBA or a 2nd yellow? If the latter, you're right - it would only be a one match ban.

Suspended for rest of the season. As is Fox.

1. Wigan win both their remaining games - Arsenal (a) and Villa (h) AND 2. Norwich secure 2+ points v WBA (h) and Man City (a) AND 3. Newcastle secure 2+ points v QPR (a) and Arsenal (h) AND 4. We lose to Sunderland today by 12 goals or more Not especially likely, all in all.

Am I right that Watford wouldn't be allowed as many loan players from Udinese if they do make it to the Premiership?

Good news. Very good news.

Tbh, that's not ideal. We want both Spurs and Arsenal to keep winning, I think.

Spurs equalise. Dempsey.

Too true. Been staggeringly close from halfway to 18th and in the race for 3rd and 4th. Oddly though, it's just about possible that all these important issues will be resolved before kick off on the last day of the season.

I appreciate he's a trolling loon. Just seeking to clarify things for the slightly saner readers of this forum.

If Stoke win or draw against Spurs, Arsenal can effectively guarantee a CL spot if they beat Wigan on Tuesday.

There are no remotely credible circumstances in which we need to. A single point from our last two games keeps us up.

Ta. Will edit.

Much obliged, thanks.