SaintBobby

A really excellent return to the top flight. To be safe with a game still to go is a really good achievement. There's room for improvement next year, of course. I think that's a good thing!

a. Any two of Wigan, Sunderland and Aston Villa. b Plus any one of Watford, Brighton and Crystal Palace. I'd rather like Wigan to stay up and wouldn't mind rekindling our rivalry with Brighton. Indifferent between Sunderland and Villa really.

You can get 712/1 on betfair. Don;t think anyone else is quoting odds. It's still a waste of money, just as 100/1 was.

They need to beat Arsenal or it's over for them, really. They'd need a huge goal difference swing v Sunderland on the final day if they only draw.

Isn't anyone still interested in our finishing position THIS season? It's about £800K a place, no? Given we can finish anywhere between 10th and 17th, there's over £5m at stake!

It's been a bit of a pattern for you though, hasn't it? You also strongly tipped us to miss out on promotion from L1 and the NPC. A truly dismal record of predictions over several years, I'm sorry to say.

I think you can rest assured that whatever your own predictions, they will be roundly ignored by any remotely intelligent person. You've been comically wrong over the last three seasons. That "We're going down" thread you started is comedy gold. Pure comedy gold.

Relieved, more than happy. Between minutes 68 and 76 today, I thought I was going to throw up.

How many times does this need to be explained? Wigan could technically finish above us but that would mean Villa finishing behind us (unless we lose 12-0 or worse)

I'd target points, not position. 50 points should be the target IMHO. I'm less bothered about a target position, that depends so much on other teams. 50 points could be 7th or 13th.

Technically, it's 12 goals. If we lose 12-0 and Villa lose to Wigan 5-4, we'd be down* *assuming Wigan have beaten Arsenal and Sunderland don't lose to Spurs.

As I've pointed out on other threads, we are safe for sure as long as we don't lose to Stoke by 12 or more goals.

To be clear, the only way we can now be relegated is if we lose by 12 goals or more against Stoke and Wigan win their two remaining games. (It is not a swing on goals. if we lose 6-0 to Stoke and Villa lose 6-0 to Wigan, we still stay up).

Updated following today's games. We're now essentially safe with 40 points.

Yep. But rather less room for comfort given the current Norwich and Newcastle scores.

Not scored in 345 minutes now. Bit disappointing.

Definitely. Makes us safe.

Everything going wrong in the other games, sadly.

Good news. He's suspended for next week's game.

Well, after that breathless Watford game, just a reminder of what we want from today's other games: Stoke v Spurs. (currently 1-1) Spurs win. To keep the pressure on Arsenal to win on Tuesday and give us a good chance of leapfrogging Stoke. Everton v West Ham. Everton win. Means we may still have a chance of catching West Ham (although not much of one) Fulham v Liverpool. Liverpool win and preferable by a cricket score. Gives us a good chance of catching Fulham. Norwich v West Brom. West Brom win. Would mean Norwich having to beat Man City away to catch us. QPR v Newcastle. QPR win. Would mean Newcastle having to beat Arsenal at home to catch us. Man Utd v Swansea (4pm). Irrelevant to us.

Gees. Incredible. Feel sorry for Leicester. But not for Nugent, obviously. The skate c**t.

Really. Was it a straight red v WBA or a 2nd yellow? If the latter, you're right - it would only be a one match ban.

Suspended for rest of the season. As is Fox.

1. Wigan win both their remaining games - Arsenal (a) and Villa (h) AND 2. Norwich secure 2+ points v WBA (h) and Man City (a) AND 3. Newcastle secure 2+ points v QPR (a) and Arsenal (h) AND 4. We lose to Sunderland today by 12 goals or more Not especially likely, all in all.

Am I right that Watford wouldn't be allowed as many loan players from Udinese if they do make it to the Premiership?