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Was on telly on Sunday, seems to be doing okay

This is virtually identical to the 'Ramirez wants fiorentina' transfer story last year, when all he actualy said was that they'd be a decent club to play for.

Better sponsorship and corporate sales for a start.

Again, that doesn't really wash, let's be blunt, we won't sell 40,000 every week, so let's say we sold on average another 4,000 tickets game, at an average of £35 that's only an additional revenue of £2.6m per season, a drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things and there are far better ways of increase turnover than splashing out £24m on seats we don't need.

The figure Lowe quoted in 2003 was £3k a seat. This equates to £24m. Thats a firm answer, not specualtion.

When Lowe was here he said in 2003 that the cost to expand worked out at £3,000 per seat, that was 11 years ago so undoubtedly more now. Even so, for sake of argument using £3,000 per seat it'd cost £24m to expand. to see an ROI on this we'd need to sell the 8,000 seats at £35 per ticket every game for almost 5 seasons. As we are only getting 30,000 on average at the moment we'd likely only sell out the 8,000 seats for around 5 games a season, so in actual fact we are looking at at far, far longer to see a return on inventsment than his "5 or 6 sell outs over 5 seasons". That's also assuming the Liebherrs fund it out of their own pocket with an interest free loan. Considering people were also coming up with this wierd and wonderful dynamic pricing, German model, more away fans and kids for a quid ideas to fill the stadium to sell the additional seats we're actually looking at decades rather than years before we recoup the £24m, remind me again why it makes "business sense" to build more seats we dont need?

they're bang on the money to be fair. Everyone assumed it was depression when the truth was he couldn't handle the pressure of being an international sportsman expected to perform at the highest level. Isn't being able to handle that pressure and turn it into a positive making you raise your game to the highest level what we are told is the difference between a decent and a great performer? It's funny how he didn't suffer from the same problem when everything was going well against the same opponents in the summer.

I particularly like MLGS second post on his infamous "what will happen soon" thread, where he states that we got 30,000 the year we got relegated along with a proclomation about how many more we'd get if we had a team that was good to watch. Well he's had his answer this season. We're actually getting less.

Luton and MIllwall both took over 40,000 to Wembley in recent seasons, maybe they need a 40,000 capacity as well?

Please explain.

Is it soon yet? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?37346-St-Mary-s-What-we-might-expect-to-see-happen-(and-possibly-announced-soon)

You're not wrong pal, those that want us to win trophies and have our name engraved in history are clueless, yet those that want us to win nothing and finish 7th are visionaries and modern, proper fans.

He's going to start by getting that great offensive talent Brad Rank in from keele college now he's graduated in phys Ed. That'll help us sell a few shirts in the West Midlands.

It's great to see us taking soccerball so seriously.

He's going about it all the wrong way. He needs to come out and tell people we are going to be in the champions league, regardless of if he thinks it or not or had the means to do it. That way we'll all be able to laud his vision, ambition and drive. I mean he won a gold medal with the Canadian hockey team, so if he's already achieved success with them then it's incredibly likely he'll achieve what he says with us, that's how it works right?

If only a season lasted 6,7 or 10 games, hey Nicholas

The 'hopelessly naive' Ralph Kruger hasn't got a clue what he is doing. I fully expect him to send the team to dribble the ball behind the goal and score that way. Everyone thinks that will be allowed and he must think it, as neither he, nor any of the other hopelessly naive posters on here has said otherwise. Gotcha Fried.

I get so bored watching that. No one cares about the Budweiser trophy any more. You're stuck in the 70s.

Jimmy d is on duty tonight, he deleted a load of posts on the match reaction thread earlier because he didn't like them.

Why? Second highest English scorer and saints leading scorer.

But we had loads of injuries and the calamity keeper in goal then, during his run of conceding 7 goals from 10 shots at goal in three games, you'd like to think we won't concede from every shot on target this time.

Shut up you skate troll. Its time the mods took action against your type.

Beckham was replaced in the Man United squad by Christian Ronaldo, how did that one pan out? okay Beckham cost £25m and Ronaldo cost £12m, so a closer gap but the point remains the same.

No, because football existed before 1992 so it isn't record points total. 8th place would be nice and an excellent achievement and we are bang on to finish where I predicted we would do at the star of the season and throughout it, even when some helmets were adamant we would finish in at least the top 6 and probably top 4.

What happened to the 106 years of our history before that?