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I admire what Koeman has done but the pessimist inside me just thinks that this will make these clubs try and sign them earlier before they sign pro contracts, telling them that if they sign for us we'll price them out of the market. Would Shaw have signed a pro contract if he knew we'd place such a high price on his head, potentially ruling him out of a move, especially when you have the likes of man u trying to get them to sign for them

I thought the rumour was, he changed his mind because liverpudlian gangsters threatened him and his family

we don't need to give him a reason do we, managers get sacked all the time, **** him if he thinks he can play games with us then he needs to learn a lesson and putting him out of action for a year would be the right thing to do, he aint bigger than the club. He needs an ultimatum, tell him there's a contract on the table to be signed, give him a deadline if he doesn't sign it, then it's gardening leave with a replacement brought in.

Can we not just put him on gardening leave for the rest of his contract and move to find another manager

Lallana, great player for us he is, would only be a legend in my eyes if he sees out his career with us, otherwise he's no more than a great player who once played for us.

I'm not saying it will be January, but do you really think clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal etc aren't going to look at our players if we're near the top of the table and cherry pick the best ones at some point. For example Man U. are short on defenders, Lovren is having a blinding season, now if you were Man U what would you do?

The trouble is clubs like Southampton rarely get a chance to build a top quality team, as soon as we're seen to be doing well by the top clubs they look at our players and take the ones they see as top quality leaving us having to find other replacements, I suspect at this point in time other clubs will be eyeing up Schneiderlin, Lovren, Shaw and Ward Prowse. When these clubs come knocking with their ridiculous wages what are we to do? we can't match the wages so we're left with taking the money and trying to find replacements, which isn't always that easy. Then we start to lose the team spirit as players that have grown up through the leagues together are replaced with foreign players. Unfortunately our good start will most likely be a double edged sword as the season moves towards an end we'll hear more about the core of our team having bids made for them.

Would they be considering turning him into a left winger like they did Bale and hoping for the same sort of result

'kids for a quid' would be brilliant, I'd bring my daughter along then, she's only 9 so I can't justify/afford to get her a season ticket, plus she doesn't always want to go. Can you imagine the uproar though, 'why have I paid such and such for little jimmy to have a season ticket, it's not fair blah blah blah'

Don't see how this makes someone damaged goods. This is how democracy works, if he just rode roughshod over the outcome of the vote last night then he'd be no better than the nutters in the middle east. As for milliband, he saw how the public felt and went with public opinion rather than his own, at least Cameron had an opinion and had the balls to back it up and fought his corner with conviction. miiliband saw it as an easy way to possibly win votes and to score points off the government, let's hop this gimp doesn't get into power eh. Imagine him being shouted down by every other country's politicians. I think it's the right thing to do to not go in all guns blazing, no matter what we do it will **** someone off down there no matter how well intentioned it is, look at Libya, Gadaffi's gone and the place is chaos

To be fair I remember the posts and didn't he say that he thought his mate might be winding him up, he then said a few posts later that his mate had confirmed it was a wind up.

Bet the human rights lawyers are rubbing their hands with this one, old witch blair will be at the front of the queue waiting to get her grubby mitts on some taxpayers money to represent these vile humans

Sorry to take off subject but people who say this really get my goat, it is not a bedroom tax. 1. If I was unemployed on benefits as a single guy and tried to rent a 3 bed house payed for by housing benefit I'd be told I didn't need 3 beds find a 1 bed house/flat. 2. If you live in a council house, you do not have your rent increased if you have an empty bedroom. 3. If you live in a council house, claim housing benefit and have empty bedrooms you will lose some of that housing benefit to encourage you to vacate the property and let a family who needs it have it, NOT A TAX 4. A council house is a house provided to you by the state to help fulfill your needs as a person/family, once your children have moved out the needs have been fulfilled for a large house so you can be rehoused to something smaller, if you don't want to be rehoused then I suggest you get a job and pay the rent yourself. See 2 5. This loss in benefits is only applied to people of a working age, so no problem for oaps. This all seems perfectly reasonable to me, can someone tell me how this is a tax?

Think he's one of those characters that try to find rascist overtones in everything that is said

and what happens next time the agent has a player wanting to be moved on and there's a choice of 2 clubs, the agent advises on the one which gives him a nice brucey

Trouble is if you don't allow the agent to 'fleece' you they will advise their client to go elsewhere, somewhere where the agent gets more money. Playing hardball was ok when we were in the lower leagues and the player knew what a good opportunity they might miss, the problem now is that their are bigger and better clubs which we are trying to compete with so they won't be missing out on their 'big chance' by not coming to us.

This sounds to me as if they just haven't got a procedure in place for this. The monkeys in the ticket office probably have a procedure for disability tickets ie proof with some sort of disability payment book and if the procedure isn't followed they get reprimanded. The office workers probably don't have the authorisation to treat each case individually, I suspect if you were to arrange a meeting with the ticket office manager to explain the situation they'd be more sympathetic and may well introduce a new procedure for fellas in your Dad's predicament.

Maybe I'm stating the obvious here but surely people realise the journalists are fed this information from the wanting to buy clubs as a way of unsettling the player to try and get him to force the club to sell to them. And at the risk of sounding a nob, why is the spelling set to american in here. It's realise not realize

Just a guess, I have family of 4, pretty sure the water is less than that, just a guess off the top of my head. Thing is someone like IDS wouldn't be content with sitting around collecting benefits and would go out and find work. The true test would be not to make him live on that for 3 months but to go unemployed, give him £57 a week and tell him to try and find work in his local area which would make him better off in work than out. Then we'd see how hard/easy it is to get off benefits.

Completely agree, £53 a week is more than enough after his bills have been paid, it is afterall supposed to be a temporary measure until he can find work

So that's roughly £225 a month, assuming he's living on his own rent - paid for council tax - paid for water £50 utilities £75 leaving £100 for food for the month, not impossible for a single person but not good, I haven't taken in to account things like tv licence etc, don't know if that's paid for.

To be fair Chelsea could well be looking at Clyne and it won't matter what Cortese or anyone wants, it'll all be down to Clyne himself. We've seen this so many times before, clubs start using the press to unsettle a player, player ends up leaving, personally I think he'll end up at Man U, we may have one more season with him at the most. These clubs always get their player, the only thing being in the prem will ensure is that we'll get a decent price.

yes i do but there's a time and a place, when the new manager is being introduced to the press isn't really the time.

Ridiculous, I hate all this ****ing clapping on certain minutes, if there is a protest it should be done at half time, so what what if the sky cameras are there, the protest shouldn't be for their benefit, it's to let Cortese know people are ****ed off. ooh look at us sky tv we're not happy Anyone booing or protesting through the game are ******s and should **** off home, what a great idea, lets all create a horrible toxic atmosphere for the players to play in, sounds like a cracking idea, whilst we're at it we could boo some of the players we don't like just to let them know, that should help us win games. Like it or not he's here, we need to make him welcome and judge him on results without making his job impossible because if he fails Southampton fail

If he had been there, the whole press conference would have been the press asking why he'd sacked Adkins, this would have put the whole conference into a negative vibe.