Lord Duckhunter

A % is a %. How is somebody on 80k a year paying 40% whilst somebody on 40k a year pays 20% "fair", the richer bloke still pays more revenue into the coffers if the % was the same. Because Rickie Lambert is more skilled at his job than I am at mine, why does his % have to increase? We are talking about earnt income here. In the strictest sense of the word , a flat tax is clearly the "fairest" .

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You only have to look to Wales to see just how safe the NHS is in labour hands. Scare stories have always been a part of the establishments political campaigning , and you can not have a proper political debate because of it. Take tax , people don't argue about what brings in the most money but " tax cuts for millionaires" . We've seen it on this thread, with flat tax , and how the poorest pay the same as the richest. No they don't, the more you earn the more you pay. There's also no mention of the tax policy overall. Merging NI & Income tax ( described as sensible by ifs) and the raising of the tax free threshold much higher than it is now ( meaning less people pay tax and ni). It is a legitimate tax policy, which the taxpayers alliance and Adam smith institute have taken seriously . According to them at present the poorest 1/3 pay 9% of their income in tax and under UK IPS proposals they'll pay 0%. This article explains it better than I can, although ukips 2010 policy allowed for a higher threshold than the 10k proposed by these people. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/9202370/Osborne-urged-to-introduce-30pc-income-tax-for-all.html Unfortunately instead of a grown up debate about it, there's just mud slinging and sound bites repeated over and over again. Its just a shame that Nigel appears to have let the liblabcon knock him off course on this issue.

I'm so looking forward to next Thursday when the peoples army stuff your sanctimonious pony where the sun don't shine.

What the FCK are some people on? We have to run the club within the boundaries of what is affordable. If MP wants us to spend what we haven't got, then he can **** off as far as I'm concerned. I'll drive him up the seven sisters road myself. Managers can't start hold a gun to the finance people's heads, he won't be able to do it at spurs and he shouldn't be able to do it to us.Have the past 10 years not taught us anything? For all we know Nicola was a Swiss Peter Risdale who was driving us over the edge of a cliff. If clubs like Aston Villa and Everton cut their cloth accordingly, why is it such a bad thing for us to be doing so? There will always be clubs come knocking for our players just as we pinched clyne and José from palace and jrod from Burnley. That unfortunately is a fact of footballing life and if people can't deal with it, they'll always be disappointed

In what way does it seem like a " fire sale"?

Of course its not up to him, I'm sure he wants to keep him as much as any of us.

I was just wondering today, out of the list of new laws that have been introduced by the EU, which one's do you disagree with so much that you want out of the EU as a result? If you don't disagree with any of them then what's the problem? It is not for a foreign trading body to impose new laws on a sovereign state. This is the best argument I've seen for open borders! Let me get this right, as a business owner or recruiter, you're happy to be restricted in your choice of candidates and forced to choose employees that, by your own admission, wouldn't have been as good as those that you did employ! How on earth is that of any benefit to the UK if business leaders are prevented from employing the best candidates? Stupid argument, how does it help the British economy if millions of youngsters are on the dole? So, the answer then is 'No' you haven't been adversely affected by the open border policy (and nor has anyone else I've come across so far) but you imagine that people must be worse off because they might not have been successful in achieving employment when an EU citizen gets the job ahead of them (again without any direct evidence to this effect). Had you considered that maybe the immigrants from the EU also employ people and maybe even UK citizens? With a quality test you'll still get immigrants who will employ people. Nobody is suggesting no immigration at all. As for only believing in policies that affect you, what a selfish approach. Why was Bob Crow against the EU, Tony Benn against, it didn't affect them, but they were concerned about the working man. You're opinion on this is bizarre. Not your best argument. In one breath you're decrying an open border policy and in the next suggesting that if we do it for Europeans, then we should do it for everyone. There clearly has to be a benefit to the UK in having an open border policy (details of which I have explained earlier) which clearly wouldn't apply to the whole world. We have different immigration rules for a number of different nationalities based on the benefits to be gained by the UK in doing so. The biggest load of nonsense yet. I'm not suggesting open borders for everyone, I'm suggesting quantity and quality test for all nations. "We have different immigration rules for a number of different nationalities based on the benefits to be gained by the UK in doing so.". This is clearly nonsense. It is not based on "benefits", how do you define "benefits" of Romanians over Americans or Australians. The simple truth is the EU was founded on the principle of "ever closer union". One major plank in this is the free movement of people. The UK has free movement of people, from Wales to England, Scotland to Ireland ect ect. That's how the EU nutters see it ,a EUSSR by stealth.

Not if you only want the brightest and the best its not. Or if you want the fairest system.

They ban ex BNP members from the party, the liblabcon don't. To me there's 3 coherent lines to take on immigration. 1. Ban everybody no matter which country them come from. 2. Let everybody in, no matter which country they come from 3. Have a system that bases numbers on quality and the needs of the UK economy. Importantly, it shouldn't matter which country you come from, just which skills you have and your willingness to contribute to our society. An incoherent policy is ; Pick 26 countries and use policy 2 from above. Whilst using policy 3 for the rest of the world. Would the anti ukip posters be happy if they picked 26 countries and changed their policy for those countries? Would this make them less anti immigrant. What if they allowed unrestricted immigration from Australia, new Zealand, Canada, USA,Switzerland, Norway, and Iceland, whilst imposing restrictions on Indians, Chinese, Jamaicans and Africans. Would people say, " wow, what an inclusive fair and nice party they are". .

But what if allowing more poles and Romanians in means that less people from Africa or India are able to live and work here. Why should somebody from Germany be treated differently than somebody from India?

That Katrina is a right selfish *****, why run it as a business? She should use all her money to get us in the champions league.

'96 Euros matt was at his absolute best and Venables left him out. Never really understood the resentment against Hoddle in '98 . He made his decision and that's what he's paid for.

Do you think there should be any limit on immigration or can anybody turn up and work in the UK?

We need to get our players in before selling anyone. If we get big money for Adam and Shaw, the price will go up on any players we look to bring in. Although spurs bought badly last summer their timing was spot on. They got the players in and then sold Bale.

Nonsense. Their away support is always really good.

Reports that Carroll has been told he's on stand by so looks like Rickie is a defo. What a fantastic story, legend.

I've recently employed polish and Romanian workers. They were the best candidates in a selection process that included Brits. Therefore is it right to assume that those British people who didn't get the job were adversely affected. During the boom we were struggling to recruit for our minimum wage jobs, we didn't need to put the wages up to attract people because we suddenly got a steady supply of very willing and hard working people to take those jobs. Is it beyond your comprehension to see that the effect of this kept wages down As a white middle class 50 year old , immigration hasn't really affected me much, but then I guess the " cost of living crises" hasn't really hit the milliband household, doesn't stop him having an opinion though doers it? Are you seriously saying that you can only comment on issues that affect yourself, that's quite a selfish point of view. For low paid unskilled poor people, immigration from eastern Europe has been a nightmare, not to mention builders etc who have had their wages undercut. Then there's the democratic deficit. As a democratic I believe that the British people should govern themselves, should decide who comes into our country and in what numbers. If they decide that its in our best interests to have open borders, then so be it. The party that proposes that will put it to the people, when the people decide enough is enough, they'll kick the government out. That's a thing called democracy.

I was in Cyprus in the summer, there are loads and loads of Russians living there. There are Americans in France, Spain and Germany. The pro EU side claiming all UK nationals will be sent home, whilst Russians , Aussies and Yanks can stay is clearly nonsense.

So who else knows about this" hidden agenda"? I would have thought the agenda was anything but " hidden" , the name UKIP is the biggest clue. Oh, I can't wait until this hidden agenda is revealed. Who is going to announce it, cleggy,? Maybe ken clarke ,or are they going to leave it to you. Although it could remain hidden to all but the enlightened ones. Exciting isn't it?

You really do spout some nonsense, go on enlighten us, what is this " hidden agenda" What worrys me is the liblabcon's hidden agenda, I don't know what it is or have any proof, but because I post it, it must be true lol.

If someone stops them parading around with their brats I'll be happy. I want to applaud the players not their offspring. One of the things wrong with the modern game, you wouldn't see chopper Harris or bestie doing it.

Thank god the country doesn't take notice of what Williams and other EU extremists say. We'd be in the euro if it was down to that lot. See here's the thing with Europe , the people who were wrong time and time again are the people we're supposed to listen to. The people who told us it was a trading bloc when they wanted our vote, who told us the erm was good idea, who told us the euro was the way forward are now telling us we can't leave, are trying to frighten the people again. What was it the lib/dumbs claimed, that we'd lose jobs if we didn't join the euro, that foregin companies would relocate away if we didn't join the euro, they were wrong then and their wrong now. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter what I want or what you want or what Williams wants, it should be down to the British people. The ones denying the public a say are all pro EU, telling that isn't it.They know that a proper debate and vote on the EU will result in the British people seeing the EU king is in the altogether, they know that having fooled us once, they'll not be able to do so again. Why won't the pro eu side put their case to the British public?

Complete and utter nonsense, are you trying to say that there would be no holiday entitlement if we weren't in the EU, that we'd be swimming around on dirty beaches, that the labour government wouldn't have banned smoking at work, that we had 13 years of labour and they wouldn't have legislated against equal pay and labour protection. Complete and utter nonsense. Do the Swiss not have holidays, do Australians not recycle, are there not clean beaches in Florida? Laughable.......... Have you heard of Interpol? Have you not heard of NATO? When EU nutters bang on like this claiming we would be some sort of slave labour nation and we owe all our social benefits to the EU no wonder people vote ukip. Not one of the things you've listed couldn't be done out of the EU and we are quite capable of negotiating deals and cross border support and agreements where needed. I do like the"support for democracy" line. This from the body that didn't like the Irish or French democratic vote so made them keep on voting, from an organisation that is so corrupt its accounts haven't been signed for for over a decade. "Support for democracy"!!! That's the funniest line on here. As for your line about immigrants working from less being "hearsay" , well Williams made that exact point, she said there were immigrants doing jobs that British workers wouldn't do , because of the pay. This was when she also claimed that unemployment was low.

Where has all this " anti immigration" nonsense come from. Ukip are not anti immigration, their immigration policy for the whole world is exactly the same as the liblabcon's is for Africans and Chinese. Are the liblabcon anti African? Anti EU people used to argue about section y, sub section x of treaty z, and nobody quite understood the problem and we ended up with this straight banana nonsense. What Nigel has done very well is to point out the consequence of membership on peoples lives. The established parties tried to make out that immigration is a seperate issue than the EU. Nobody believes that now and hopefully Nigel will move on to other areas after this election, starting with the democratic implications of our membership. I want laws made in UK, 100% of them, end of. One final point about question time. Had Nigel denied the holocaust on Thursday's show, he could have been arrested and sent to Germany to stand trial, this is despite the fact he may have not set foot in Germany in his life. Now, holocaust denial is appallingly disgusting behaviour, but the fact is, it is not an offense in UK law. How on earth people are happy to belong to an organisation that allows British subjects to be arrested for something that is legal in the UK is beyond me. One thing for sure is that if Americans wanted this " right" lefties everywhere would be getting their sandals in a right twist. It seems that belonging to a special club means more to the establishment than rights and freedoms.