Dark Munster

The current Euros (and the last World Cup) shows VAR is fine. As long as the AR part of it isn’t a drooling, brainless, incompetent moron.

Do we beat Germany on penalties?

Yes, outsiders can win Euros (Greece and Denmark come to mind). With Germany we know they always qualify for a tournament they never lose on penalties (since their very first one where they learnt their lesson) they get to the semis or final an incredible number of times (even with mediocre teams), occasionally crashing out early with bad teams

They do find a way even with mediocre teams. The Germany we beat 5-1 went on to get to the final. And of course they never lose on penalties!

There seem to be more than the usual number of really strong teams this year. France and Belgium stand out of course, but Italy look better than they've been in years, Germany are Germany, ditto Spain. Portugal and England have some world class players (and for all his faults we have a manager who finally takes penalty shoot out preparations seriously - even though he was crap at it himself ... or maybe because he was). On paper this should be a great tournament. It's going to take a very good, and/or very lucky, team to get past Kante and France.

Look on the bright side, it could be a lot worse.

How about Iraq?

Can't see a problem with that. Assuming she's over 18. Now if it were Moyes' missus I could see that being a bit awkward.

De Gea looked like he couldn't save a penalty if it went on all night. Or score one.

To be fair their new one (coming soon) will dwarf all of those.

And Vardy's. And Maddison's.

Just logged on to this thread. Saw there were 2 + unread pages since yesterday. Something exciting must be brewing I thought. Maybe a mega yacht arriving at Southampton? Then I read all this shit.

How many positions higher in the table is he worth? If say 5, then that's about £10 million recouped. And if being 5 positions lower results in 18th or worse, the £20 million gained by selling him would be the classic penny wise/pound foolish. And as for kicking the can down the road, that is an understandable concern, but a year gives the club more time to find a replacement. Also, if Ings has a mediocre/injury interrupted year and there is no big 6 interest, it's possible he could sign a renewal then.

"Saints Takeover Saga"

I think the feeling's mutual.

To a Nigerian bank account? If so, your £1 billion inheritance is on its way.

And it's a fact!

Messi is a better player than Long.

Not quite, as he is a better player than Shane Long. <- Statement as a fact Not quite, as I think/I believe/IMHO he is a better player than Shane Long. <- Statement as an opinion.

Is it just me who thinks Redmond was ok yesterday, especially in the first half? Walcott on the other hand was f**king useless, and not for the first time. Dear God Saints, please don't offer him a contract. Nice guy I'm sure, but he's washed up.

Beautiful city is Oxford

Overall not that bad. Liverpool's attacking passing is scarily good. Tella very good. Redmond good. KWP ok. Armstrong anonymous. McAdam's needs lessons from Ings. No LB on show, Salah will punish us in the 2nd half unless Stephens wakes up. Walcott a waste of space.

Could be worse. The Skates are probably worth about one Donkey. (Maybe I'm being over generous).

whoooosh!