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Apparently his last wife is devastated and a daughter thinks he is a selfish bastard. But Duckie and hypo are cool with it so alls well.

I did answer the question if you read above. If you are talking about being kind, perhaps you should aim your comments at Duckie.

Probably as well that we all don’t have 6...7...8...kids though.

In fact you consistently defend serial right wing abusers on this forum.

Where are the double standards? I don’t have a problem with people facing criticism but a don’t condon “vile abuse.” Are you suggesting that I have used “vile abuse” towards Duckie, Farage, Johnson or any other of your right leaning buddies? What is your definition of “vile abuse?”

The CPS does. You are very fond of using #BeKind as a wind up. Here’s a hypothetical situation for you. A young women goes out for the night and either has too much to drink o has her drink spiked. She goes for something to eat and is found by a guy also on a night out. What is the kind thing to do when you realise that the girl is legless? a) Put her in a taxi. b) Take her in a taxi to a room prebooked by your mate for exactly this scenario. Have sex with the girl. Text your mate to say that you have “got a bird.” Your mate comes in, doesn’t say a word. Performs a sex act on the girl whist a lid of other mates film it outside the window. Said mate then leaves by the fire escape. So what is the “kind” thing to do. What would you hope would happen if it was your daughter in this scenario? The law says that a woman cannot consent to sex if she is incapacitated. Just as a girl under the age of 16 cannot consent to sex as it is under the legal age. Just to recap for your benefit. Evans was found guilty of rape in the original trial snd sentenced. Various appeals failed. His fiancées family put up a reward for “new evidence.” Two people came forward who, the CPS believe, were coached by the Evans camp. Their “new evidence” had nothing to do with this particular incident and the CPS argued that it should not be allowed to be submitted for the retrial. The judge did not agree and allowed this “new evidence” to be submitted. This, the CPS, led the jury to acquit. The vastly experienced prosecuting team believed that he (and his friend) were guilty of rape that night. You and Duckie and the second jury disagree. Fair enough. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let’s hope your daughter never finds herself alone in a situation like that. #BeKind

People are allowed opinions. Even me.

I completely agree with you. People with money should not be able to buy immunity from the law for their actions. Nor should people with money to use that to corrupt the legal process, which is what the CPS believe happened in the Evans case. But it seems that incapacitated women are fair game according to some.

So it is wrong to call O J Simpson a murderer if that is what you think he is? #stopbeingsoobtuse

Vile abuse is never good but I didn’t see any of the right supporters on here calling it out when it was aimed at the likes of Corbyn, Abbot etc. Double standards, as you say.

Not sure what any of that has got to do with Duckies spirited defence of Johnson’s serial adultery?

What does “if a bird didn’t get polluted” mean? Been on the skunk again Duckie?

A gross miscarriage of justice? You do recall that a jury found him guilty in the first trial. If it was such a humongous miscarriage how do you explain that?

I’m sure our PM will be happy to know that you have his back Duckie. No doubt you would adopt exactly the same position if we were talking about a pinko lefty snowflake.

I’m guessing that you think that serial adultery is perfectly ok?

What on Earth are you talking about?

I’m thinking of her. None of the other relationships have ended well for the wives.

It is good that you had the energy to change your life at the point it needed changing. Once you get into a very deep hole there often seems no way out. It is good that more people feel that they can open up about their feelings now. That is a big step forward. The “Be Kind” movement will never work because many people just can’t be kind. Be a shoulder to lean on is much more helpful when life goes pear shaped. Having someone to talk to certainly helped me. Be a friend. Be non judgemental. And if you are suffering with stress, anxiety and depression, for goodness sake don’t bottle it up.

Ah. I wonder if this one has a prenup sorted out?

At least I didn’t vote for Johnson.

I think that has just gone through, hence their announcement.

I think I must have been on relatively low doses of the various drugs I was on as I didn’t have a strong reaction to either taking them or coming off them. Then again as part of the process of sorting myself out I went on a trip up the Amazon in Peru where I took auyhuawasca (spelt that wrong but can’t be bothered to look it up) a strong drug prepared by a shaman, twice and although everyone else was having mind blowing experiences, it did absolutely nothing for me! Perhaps I have a resistance to these substances? I remember the first time I was prescribed some meds. The doctor could tell I wasn’t overly enthused by the prospect and said, “don’t worry mate, half the country is on them.” Sad state of affairs. I named this thread deliberately because I think that the way that we live our lives nowadays contributes to the breakdown of mental well-being. Our nervous system was designed for a much simpler life. The flight or fight response is now triggered in our brains and bodies hundreds of times a day and we can’t cope with the frequent chemical changes. Our nervous systems have not caught up with the huge changes facing humans in the modern age, nor will they. The only way forward is to resimplify our lifestyles, but you can’t put the genie back in the bottle. Once upon a time it was easier to get off the treadmill and lead a simpler life. Everything is so expensive now most of us will never be able find a work life balance that works for us.

Thanks for this Shroppie. Good to read a thoughtful and well balanced post for a change! I don’t think any of us was delighted with the January transfer window but I did hear that we had a transfer lined up early on that fell through. The problem, as we all know, is getting the right players in. If they are not available for whatever reason, the last thing we need is to sign more bang average players. It looks like we will limp through until the summer when a lot of work needs to be done. I don’t see the point in kicking off now, but if we go into next season without major surgery on the squad, even I might get my pitchfork out.

I was on that and a variety of drugs over a period of time including Prozac which did nothing for me. I don’t think any of them did much for me but at least I had no trouble coming off any of them. I did a variety of therapies over time including hypnotherapy. The one that helped the most for me was group therapy sessions where I found it helpful to know that I was alone and that each of us responds in different ways and have different triggers but the end results on the nervous system are the same. It does take time and sometimes you have a relapse and need help again. I also read a ton of self help books. Some did help, some didn’t. But it was all a part of a process for taking responsibility. Like you I had clinical depression. The doctor who first diagnosed me called it a smiling depression because I (and many others) covered it up by making jokes and wearing a happy mask when everything else underneath had turned to crap. Apart from feeling that I couldn’t cope anymore, one of the worst symptoms was the insomnia. It is bad enough over thinking and not dealing with things during the daytime but lying awake every night for most of the night when you have nothing to do other than churn the crap over in your mind was soul destroying. I found cognitive therapy to be very helpful. If I find myself slipping back I have the tools to reframe the situation and that certainly helps. I have something called catastrophic thinking where you imagine the worst happening in certain situations and when that occurs now I automatically reframe my thoughts like a reset button. Different things works for different people. It’s often a question of trial and error to find what suits you best. One thing I will always remember. I used to think that I was mentally weak for ending up the way I did. What they explain to you is that you are not weak, you just carry on trying to deal with sh*t long after you should get help resulting in an eventual breakdown in your coping mechanism. Hats off to you and everyone else on here who has battled or is battling mental illness. It sucks. If you have a broken bone you get sympathy because there is a physical manifestation of your disability. If you are suffering with mental health problems people either don’t know what is going on with you are they think you are an a5se because of your behaviour. As we know , some people don’t make it and bail out. To go through this **** and to come out the other side takes real guts.

More than one by the sound of it. But I guess it is perfectly ok to belittle people and swear at people in the workplace.