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It doesn’t mean to say that it isn’t going to be right at some point. There is no great love in the Tory party for the NHS and now you have people in place who have no qualms about what they do. The fact that discussion have already taken place with pharma companies in the US should be enough to ring alarm bells in the Tory faithful.

We shall see Duckie. Hopefully the Great British public won’t give your people the chance to flog it off.

He denied having met her and suggested that the photo of them together had been doctored.

We all know your views on women Duckie.

She said that she had sex with him in two other countries. He consorted with a man who procured girls aged 14 for sex. He claims categorically that he had not met her when there is clear evidence that he did. Sex trafficking is illegal. He is a Prince. But hey, nothing to see here. Makes you wonder why people bother making tv programmes about it.

Of course the NHS is on the table. Talk to people who work for the NHS and they will tell you that bits are gradually being hived off and it is dismantled bit by bit. I saw the same thing happening with the CJS. The Probation service has been outsourced and is a total mess. Vote in a Tory Government with a working majority and you can wave goodbye to an NHS free at the point of entry within the foreseeable future.

I have just watched the Panorama programme. If anyone hasn’t seen it yet I suggest that they do. If you feel that young, vulnerable girls are somehow responsible for being abused, it might make you think again. Filmed before the Prince Andrew interview, parts of his interview have been cut in to give this programme a more rounded account of the accusations and counter accusations. It really doesn’t show HRH in a good light.

Good to see you keeping the cross of St George flying. Why do you feel it necessary to abuse people who don’t share your extreme politics all of the time? Give me an “angry little socialist” over a nasty alt right racist any day of the week.

I may be wrong but I thought that he (allegedly) had sex with her on one occasion in an American state where the age of consent is 18 and she was 17.

I started this thread because Prince Andrew was all over the news. If you have any other ideas that is down to the way your own brain works.

She was groomed and exploited in the same way that Asian gangs have groomed and exploited young girls here. Thing is, you don’t see Tommy Robinson skulking around outside Buckingham Palace trying to out Prince Andrew as a pedo.

She was a young girl, clearly out of her depth and being used by people who exploited her naivety.

Apparently his toe is still a problem so likely to be on the bench again tomorrow.

Donald tells us that he wouldn’t want the NHS even if it were handed it to him on a silver plater. Somehow you just know the opposite is true. That’s the beauty of listening to congenital liars. Listened to what they say and what they actually mean is the exact opposite.

I do agree about their proposed spending plans. It does sound fantastic but where is the money coming from? Is he going to plant magic money trees along with the others? Over the years I have shifted my views on things like privatisation/nationalisation. I used to be pro privatisation but having seen what it has done to the railways etc I am now in favour of renationalisation. We need massive reinvestment in this country’s infrastructure. The NHS needs to be properly funded. The welfare system needs a complete overhaul. It is good that Labour have ambitious plans to address all these issue but, as is usually the case, if they got into power, once they have a look at the books the spending plans will need to rethought. I am still favouring a Labour/LibDem coalition. That should rein in some of the more “out there” plans. The polls seem to be moving back to a hung parliament again.

It is a shame that Armstrong gets injured just as he starts to get a run in the team. He could be an important player for us. Given our poor form at home and the fact that Norwich are showing a bit of form, I am going for a draw.

The recent series on that start of WW2, World On Fire, was a good watch and did an excellent job on showing the effect of war on ordinary people. It also highlighted the problems faced by the Polish which are often forgotten - not least that they were also invaded by the Russians. The Line Of Duty was first class. There is plenty of good stuff if you look for it.

I am not sure that beheading would work on Andrew, what with that brass neck he has.

I love this myth that all of the rich people will leave the country if Labour get in. Maybe Phil Collins will bugger off again but unless you are super rich and don’t need a job, if you are working here your job is here. Good luck finding a job abroad paying mega bucks after Brexit. As for extremism, you haven’t really managed to come up with anything extreme hypo. If you want an example of extremism perhaps look at what has been done to public services and the NHS over the last 9 years. Mind you, the rich people will have been fine because they all have private health insurance so don’t need the NHS, they will not even have heard of Universal Credit or food banks. They will not have had to worry about getting a mortgage whilst having a pension. If they have needed to use the CJS they wouldn’t have to worry about trying to get legal aid. I could go on....

Maybe. I would be a staunch Republican but look at some of the plums over the last few years we would have had as Head of State. The Queen has been a consummate pro but the rest of them rare a waste of space. As for Charles, let’s just hope that his Mum outlives him. I would keep the Monarchy but cut it right back. I never got the argument about the amount of income they generate through tourism. Does anyone really visit another country because they have a monarch? It is not as if you are going to meet Her Maj for a cuppa and a scone whilst you are here.

I haven’t been through the whole of Labour’s manifesto, but the main stuff put out in the media looks much the same as what we had under Harold Wilson. I don’t recall those policies ever being labelled as “extremist.”

As I have said, I accept that all politicians are economical with the truth. It is the sheer volume of lies told by Johnson (and Trump) which is remarkable.

Let’s not forget that he believes that “socialism is dangerous.”

At least His Dark Materials haven’t airbrushed the religious aspect out of the story as they did in the film.