Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 It will be interesting to watch how the two new owners of Saints and County go about achieving success. With the appointment of Eriksson on an unconfirmed £40,000 a week it appears the Middle Eastern consortium, Munto Finance are going to throw shed loads of cash in attempting to propel NC into the CCC while it appears we are going down the slower or steadier "Bosman" route, picking up free transfers and building slowly by laying deeper foundations. Who will reach the CCC first, I wonder? Comparing the two styles will be fascinating. Willl ML start "flashing the cash" if early results are not good or is he prepared to consolidate a few seasons? Will Notts County manage to attract decent players into League Two? Oh and one more thing, while talking about new owners and their differing styles - this is from the front page of the Sports secion in today's Guardian (22.07.09). PREMIER LEAGUE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH AL-FAHIM'S PORTSMOUTH TAKEOVER "The Premier League will block Sulaiman Al-Fahim's supposed takeover of Portsmouth despite his installation as the club's chairman yesterday, subject to more investigations". The fat lady may have cleared her throat but the first note has yet to be sung! Hypo will be getting nervous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I would much rather have the Liebherr model than the Notts County version - they are a Portsmouth waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I shouldn't, but every time I see that name Munto, I get these flash backs. Wonder if their corporate logo is of the huge, brute, dense, cowboy riding a longhorn steer from Blazing Saddles......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 It will be interesting to watch how the two new owners of Saints and County go about achieving success. With the appointment of Eriksson on an unconfirmed £40,000 a week it appears the Middle Eastern consortium, Munto Finance are going to throw shed loads of cash in attempting to propel NC into the CCC while it appears we are going down the slower or steadier "Bosman" route, picking up free transfers and building slowly by laying deeper foundations. Who will reach the CCC first, I wonder? Comparing the two styles will be fascinating. Willl ML start "flashing the cash" if early results are not good or is he prepared to consolidate a few seasons? Will Notts County manage to attract decent players into League Two? Oh and one more thing, while talking about new owners and their differing styles - this is from the front page of the Sports secion in today's Guardian (22.07.09). PREMIER LEAGUE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH AL-FAHIM'S PORTSMOUTH TAKEOVER "The Premier League will block Sulaiman Al-Fahim's supposed takeover of Portsmouth despite his installation as the club's chairman yesterday, subject to more investigations". The fat lady may have cleared her throat but the first note has yet to be sung! Hypo will be getting nervous Can Notts County attract players in Div 2? If they can attract Sven on £40k pw for 2-3 days work then I expect there will be plenty of players willing to take a pay rise to join Notts County. My guess is that we will be in the same league next year but by which time our patient approach may start to pay dividends. Look at the money being thrown at Man City - 10 strikers and Bridgey in defence. Too much money can help you lose focus but it will make a massive difference in League 2. I don't know anything about Notts County situation but would be interested to know what led Munto to buy them as oppose to Saints assuming the deal was done recently. No agenda just curious, was it debt, the points deduction, price. I'm not suggesting we are a sleeping giant but are Notts County? Anyway I think they will catch us but our patience and more considered approach will pay off. £40k pw on Sven is a complete waste of money wouldn't Lawrie have been interested or too many hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I shouldn't, but every time I see that name Munto, I get these flash backs. Wonder if their corporate logo is of the huge, brute, dense, cowboy riding a longhorn steer from Blazing Saddles......... When I heard the name I was thinking Mrs Scott Minto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Munto Finance seem ambitious, we seem......well to early to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Munto Finance seem ambitious, we seem......well to early to say. Patient? (not as in sick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Can't think of a successful setup that has ever included a DoF and 40k a week is just crazy - you could get several decent players for that at this level I am fully behind our approach - I am not expecting too much to soon and I hope people won't be dissapointed if we dont get promotion this year - this is all about rebuilding from what will hopefully be our low(e)st point to take us back up where we belong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Are they richer than us now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Can Notts County attract players in Div 2? If they can attract Sven on £40k pw for 2-3 days work then I expect there will be plenty of players willing to take a pay rise to join Notts County. My guess is that we will be in the same league next year but by which time our patient approach may start to pay dividends. Look at the money being thrown at Man City - 10 strikers and Bridgey in defence. Too much money can help you lose focus but it will make a massive difference in League 2. I don't know anything about Notts County situation but would be interested to know what led Munto to buy them as oppose to Saints assuming the deal was done recently. No agenda just curious, was it debt, the points deduction, price. I'm not suggesting we are a sleeping giant but are Notts County? Anyway I think they will catch us but our patience and more considered approach will pay off. £40k pw on Sven is a complete waste of money wouldn't Lawrie have been interested or too many hours? Not sure Sanchez would of been interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Can't think of a successful setup that has ever included a DoF and 40k a week is just crazy - you could get several decent players for that at this level I am fully behind our approach - I am not expecting too much to soon and I hope people won't be dissapointed if we dont get promotion this year - this is all about rebuilding from what will hopefully be our low(e)st point to take us back up where we belong Steve Perryman and football managing god Mr Tisdale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Not sure Sanchez would of been interested! You're up early Gaffer. Have you got first shift on 19c watch? Sorry I was trying to be friendly I meant McMenemy but I guess they were looking at success and experience beyond an FA Cup. Still mustn't forget McMenemy's seat warming days under Taylor, do I not like that. Linesman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 You're up early Gaffer. Have you got first shift on 19c watch? Sorry I was trying to be friendly I meant McMenemy but I guess they were looking at success and experience beyond an FA Cup. Still mustn't forget McMenemy's seat warming days under Taylor, do I not like that. Linesman! If I were you, I'd go and get psychiatric help over this McMenemy fixation you have. It's not healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I shouldn't, but every time I see that name Munto, I get these flash backs. Wonder if their corporate logo is of the huge, brute, dense, cowboy riding a longhorn steer from Blazing Saddles......... I knew the name seemed familiar :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 You're up early Gaffer. Have you got first shift on 19c watch? Sorry I was trying to be friendly I meant McMenemy but I guess they were looking at success and experience beyond an FA Cup. Still mustn't forget McMenemy's seat warming days under Taylor, do I not like that. Linesman! Another thread ruined by your fixations and jabberings - when are the Mods going to ban this idiot for good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 You're up early Gaffer. Have you got first shift on 19c watch? Sorry I was trying to be friendly I meant McMenemy but I guess they were looking at success and experience beyond an FA Cup. Still mustn't forget McMenemy's seat warming days under Taylor, do I not like that. Linesman! Sometimes you speak sense but you are out of order with this post, sort yourself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Steve Perryman and football managing god Mr Tisdale? Fair point , but you must admit that in the main it doesn't seem to work it is a nebulous job to say the least for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Just ignore her guys - it's worked so well on other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Sven is a complete waste of money wouldn't Lawrie have been interested or too many hours? You really are a class A pratt. You had to get your dig in...Super Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 It will be interesting to see if our new owner is actually going to put his hand in his pocket and invest lots in the team. It is hard to tell right now, but I guess if Pardew is only able to pick up free transfers, that will tell us something. Hopefully we can dig deep, or it may take a long time to get to where we belong. The fact Pardew said that he was very impressed with our new set up would indicate that perhaps he has been assured a transfer kitty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 It will be interesting to see if our new owner is actually going to put his hand in his pocket and invest lots in the team. He has already said that this would not be the case It is hard to tell right now, but I guess if Pardew is only able to pick up free transfers, that will tell us something. What...that there are good Div 1 players to be had for nothing, or would you rather we spend for the sake of spending?? Hopefully we can dig deep, or it may take a long time to get to where we belong. The fact Pardew said that he was very impressed with our new set up would indicate that perhaps he has been assured a transfer kitty? We still have a club, we have an owner in it for the long haul....I pray this is enough for you, or you may be leading the calls for 'ML out' before the end of July.........be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 It will be interesting to watch how the two new owners of Saints and County go about achieving success. With the appointment of Eriksson on an unconfirmed £40,000 a week it appears the Middle Eastern consortium, Munto Finance are going to throw shed loads of cash in attempting to propel NC into the CCC while it appears we are going down the slower or steadier "Bosman" route, picking up free transfers and building slowly by laying deeper foundations. Who will reach the CCC first, I wonder? Comparing the two styles will be fascinating. Willl ML start "flashing the cash" if early results are not good or is he prepared to consolidate a few seasons? Will Notts County manage to attract decent players into League Two? Oh and one more thing, while talking about new owners and their differing styles - this is from the front page of the Sports secion in today's Guardian (22.07.09). PREMIER LEAGUE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH AL-FAHIM'S PORTSMOUTH TAKEOVER "The Premier League will block Sulaiman Al-Fahim's supposed takeover of Portsmouth despite his installation as the club's chairman yesterday, subject to more investigations". The fat lady may have cleared her throat but the first note has yet to be sung! Hypo will be getting nervous I would be really interested in a statement from the club as to their strategy as we are really in the dark about it. If we were on zero points I would have thought a little investment could possibly get us near to promotion but having -10 makes it very difficult. Perhaps we will consolidate this year and go for promotion next. Whatever happens there are only a few players currently on the books who would be outstanding in the championship in the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I would much rather have the Liebherr model than the Notts County version - they are a Portsmouth waiting to happen. Or a Southampton waiting to happen. You boys overspent and nearly paid the price as well or are you forgetting that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Fair point , but you must admit that in the main it doesn't seem to work it is a nebulous job to say the least for the most part It wasn't a point Sussex just a question and a dig at the Tisdale supporters if I'm honest. I totally agree with you unless the manager is an apprentice and the DoF doesn't like cold wet mornings on the training ground, I can't think of any manager who wouldn't want full autonomy over his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerfryisalegend Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 (edited) I shouldn't, but every time I see that name Munto, I get these flash backs. Wonder if their corporate logo is of the huge, brute, dense, cowboy riding a longhorn steer from Blazing Saddles.........Wasn't he called Mongo? Mongo Only Pawn In Game Of Life Edited 22 July, 2009 by Rogerfryisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Or a Southampton waiting to happen. You boys overspent and nearly paid the price as well or are you forgetting that? When did we ever Over spend? And I mean EVER? Our record signing cost 4 mil FFS alright we didnt see the best of him but that was competing in the Prem against teams that were spending up to 20 mil on players. Our downfall was probably down to lack of spending on the right players rather than over spending. Poopy spent big and it brought them more success than thhey could ever have dreamt about but the wages seem to be crippling the club. That only became our problem when we didnt get back up to the wads of sky money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I would be really interested in a statement from the club as to their strategy as we are really in the dark about it. If we were on zero points I would have thought a little investment could possibly get us near to promotion but having -10 makes it very difficult. Perhaps we will consolidate this year and go for promotion next. Whatever happens there are only a few players currently on the books who would be outstanding in the championship in the next couple of years. John - I am not bothered that the club don't go too public with a strategy. If we announced we were to splash cash that would only inflate the price and to say we will spend nothing would signal a lack of genuine intent to potential players. I am pretty sure Pardew will have investigated the "depth of the well and how quickly it could be drawn" however. A lot will depend on how long ML remains interested or committed. I would love to know his thoughts after seeing his new purchase in all it's glory last Saturday. Hopefully his visit will have kindled some affection, desire and ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 When did we ever Over spend? And I mean EVER? Our record signing cost 4 mil FFS alright we didnt see the best of him but that was competing in the Prem against teams that were spending up to 20 mil on players. Our downfall was probably down to lack of spending on the right players rather than over spending. Poopy spent big and it brought them more success than thhey could ever have dreamt about but the wages seem to be crippling the club. That only became our problem when we didnt get back up to the wads of sky money. George Burley?? 6 million?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 John - I am not bothered that the club don't go too public with a strategy. If we announced we were to splash cash that would only inflate the price and to say we will spend nothing would signal a lack of genuine intent to potential players. I am pretty sure Pardew will have investigated the "depth of the well and how quickly it could be drawn" however. A lot will depend on how long ML remains interested or committed. I would love to know his thoughts after seeing his new purchase in all it's glory last Saturday. Hopefully his visit will have kindled some affection, desire and ambition. I dont disagree with what you are saying perhaps they could let me know what the strategy is because I dont like to be kept in the dark. I also dont really know why Markus bought the club either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Or a Southampton waiting to happen. You boys overspent and nearly paid the price as well or are you forgetting that? We overspent on a bank loan and the promised investment to cover it never materialised. Notts County will presumably be overspending on a loan from the new owners so the consequences will be very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I dont disagree with what you are saying perhaps they could let me know what the strategy is because I dont like to be kept in the dark. I also dont really know why Markus bought the club either Lol at John B..........sorry mate, didn't realize you were famous, perhaps we should all call the club, and say that ML is being unfair to you....FFS some people on here really think they have a big say in the matters of the club.......news for you.........Wrong!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Lol at John B..........sorry mate, didn't realize you were famous, perhaps we should all call the club, and say that ML is being unfair to you....FFS some people on here really think they have a big say in the matters of the club.......news for you.........Wrong!! I think John was being a little tongue in cheek, Gingeletiss but of course you are right - we fans have lost our right to have a say in the club but old habits die hard. Ultimately we only have our support to withdraw but will that bother a billionaire. Much depends on ML's character and integrity. We are in his hands lock stock and barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 (edited) I think John was being a little tongue in cheek, Gingeletiss but of course you are right - we fans have lost our right to have a say in the club but old habits die hard. Ultimately we only have our support to withdraw but will that bother a billionaire. Much depends on ML's character and integrity. We are in his hands lock stock and barrel. Yes exactly of course I was only joking as if anybody from the club would contact me but in the past we all probably knew what the club was trying to achieve that is my point Edited 22 July, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 George Burley?? 6 million?? I thought it was even more than that; my memory says a shade under £8million. Should have been promoted if we'd spent that wisely.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 George Burley?? 6 million?? Im sure we have spent more than 6 mil in one season before and by todays standards thats still not overspending at CCC level and above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I thought it was even more than that; my memory says a shade under £8million. Should have been promoted if we'd spent that wisely.:mad: No guarantees in football however we did get to the play offs and with a bit of luck could have been promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Throwing money at a situation is not always the best way. Notts County have traditionally been the worst club to support in the history of the football league. Their fans in a recent survey have suffered the most over the years. I've never been to Nottingham so I don't know how big it is as a city but few big cities in this country have been able to sustain 2 or more successful football clubs. Whilst Nottingham may have 2 clubs, County has always been in the shadow of Forest as long as I can remember and I doubt the support base is there. I suspect much like Wimbledon, even if Sven does get them promotion to a decent level, the gates won't be there and once the owners realise that they can't make a Manchester United out of a traditionally small club, they will take their money and leave County well in the cack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Throwing money at a situation is not always the best way. Notts County have traditionally been the worst club to support in the history of the football league. Their fans in a recent survey have suffered the most over the years. I've never been to Nottingham so I don't know how big it is as a city but few big cities in this country have been able to sustain 2 or more successful football clubs. Whilst Nottingham may have 2 clubs, County has always been in the shadow of Forest as long as I can remember and I doubt the support base is there. I suspect much like Wimbledon, even if Sven does get them promotion to a decent level, the gates won't be there and once the owners realise that they can't make a Manchester United out of a traditionally small club, they will take their money and leave County well in the cack. Tommy Lawton signed for Notts C when they were a Div 3 side, just after the war - caused a big stir at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Tommy Lawton signed for Notts C when they were a Div 3 side, just after the war - caused a big stir at the time. They were one of the founder clubs of the league so have a long history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Im sure we have spent more than 6 mil in one season before and by todays standards thats still not overspending at CCC level and above. So spending £6m when you only get £2m income in the championship is not overspending? Its like Pompey spending £90m when you only get £30m a season, wait a minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerfryisalegend Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 So spending £6m when you only get £2m income in the championship is not overspending? Its like Pompey spending £90m when you only get £30m a season, wait a minuteI think you need to take into account how much came in from player sales as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 John - I am not bothered that the club don't go too public with a strategy. If we announced we were to splash cash that would only inflate the price and to say we will spend nothing would signal a lack of genuine intent to potential players. I am pretty sure Pardew will have investigated the "depth of the well and how quickly it could be drawn" however. A lot will depend on how long ML remains interested or committed. I would love to know his thoughts after seeing his new purchase in all it's glory last Saturday. Hopefully his visit will have kindled some affection, desire and ambition. I am very surprised someone like Liebherr got involved in football, but so thankful he has. After looking closely at what he has done before, I don't think you could wish for a better chairman. I particularly like the way he has removed politics and the past from the club by his basic common sense stance. Anyone who supports Saints is welcome, all you have to do is pay your way. Everything he has done and is about revolves around a frugal, ambitious business maxim and I cannot see him changing that just yet, unless the bug bites deep and hard. Going back to Notts County, that is indeed interesting. I get the feeling that being the oldest football club in the world had a lot to do with their decision and am pretty sure they will be throwing money at the problem. Svenn has been retained on a large salary plus a significant share in the club to get him to commit long term, but really not sure what value he brings until the club gets to a higher level. As for Pompey and the FA, I just get the feeling that the original backers just went through a 3rd party financing company with Sulaiman Al-Fahim's out in front. I don't see anyway the FA can untie that knot from the middle east and will just have to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I think you need to take into account how much came in from player sales as well.. Exactly. That 6 mil was raised from player sales where as Poopys spend was raised from erm, weapons sales? There is a loose connection in that perhaps we shouldnt have spent all of it but we were aiming for promotion which would have justified the spend. If we were arguing about the worth of the players that got bought then we can be slated but I dont count us as a club that has managed to overspend over the last 10 to 15 years. In fact, to point at a failed 6 mil challenge to regain prem status as proof of our overspending downfall is a bit laughable. Poopy havnt sunk yet and they have enjoyed success on there spending but if they do go down the pan then the overspend is something that most will believe caused there problems dispite the good times in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 It will be interesting to watch how the two new owners of Saints and County go about achieving success. With the appointment of Eriksson on an unconfirmed £40,000 a week it appears the Middle Eastern consortium, Munto Finance are going to throw shed loads of cash in attempting to propel NC into the CCC while it appears we are going down the slower or steadier "Bosman" route, picking up free transfers and building slowly by laying deeper foundations. Who will reach the CCC first, I wonder? Comparing the two styles will be fascinating. Willl ML start "flashing the cash" if early results are not good or is he prepared to consolidate a few seasons? Will Notts County manage to attract decent players into League Two? Oh and one more thing, while talking about new owners and their differing styles - this is from the front page of the Sports secion in today's Guardian (22.07.09). PREMIER LEAGUE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH AL-FAHIM'S PORTSMOUTH TAKEOVER "The Premier League will block Sulaiman Al-Fahim's supposed takeover of Portsmouth despite his installation as the club's chairman yesterday, subject to more investigations". The fat lady may have cleared her throat but the first note has yet to be sung! Hypo will be getting nervous You are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Overall, I agree with the 'pragmatic' approach....but would still be nice to have just one 'major' headline grabbing signing to whet our appetite. It would be a tad dull if everything was done at a 'sensible' level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMPR Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Exactly. That 6 mil was raised from player sales where as Poopys spend was raised from erm, weapons sales? There is a loose connection in that perhaps we shouldnt have spent all of it but we were aiming for promotion which would have justified the spend. If we were arguing about the worth of the players that got bought then we can be slated but I dont count us as a club that has managed to overspend over the last 10 to 15 years. In fact, to point at a failed 6 mil challenge to regain prem status as proof of our overspending downfall is a bit laughable. Poopy havnt sunk yet and they have enjoyed success on there spending but if they do go down the pan then the overspend is something that most will believe caused there problems dispite the good times in between. We won the FA Cup which justified our spend, now its back to normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 We won the FA Cup which justified our spend, now its back to normal by that you mean you're signing Eugen Bopp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 We won the FA Cup which justified our spend, now its back to normal It didn' justify it though. You cheated and by rights you should go down next season to pay for it. If you were to go under it would be infinitely more deserving than us going under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Im sure we have spent more than 6 mil in one season before and by todays standards thats still not overspending at CCC level and above. We spent more than we could afford to spend. That is overspending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I am very surprised someone like Liebherr got involved in football, but so thankful he has. After looking closely at what he has done before, I don't think you could wish for a better chairman. I particularly like the way he has removed politics and the past from the club by his basic common sense stance. Anyone who supports Saints is welcome, all you have to do is pay your way. Everything he has done and is about revolves around a frugal, ambitious business maxim and I cannot see him changing that just yet, unless the bug bites deep and hard. Going back to Notts County, that is indeed interesting. I get the feeling that being the oldest football club in the world had a lot to do with their decision and am pretty sure they will be throwing money at the problem. Svenn has been retained on a large salary plus a significant share in the club to get him to commit long term, but really not sure what value he brings until the club gets to a higher level. As for Pompey and the FA, I just get the feeling that the original backers just went through a 3rd party financing company with Sulaiman Al-Fahim's out in front. I don't see anyway the FA can untie that knot from the middle east and will just have to accept it. You're talking about the Middle East. It will untie. Sultan Bin Trump is not the most popular chap, even down here, the boys have ways when they don't like people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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