Scummer Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 My dad and I have got season tickets, but he's away this Saturday so my brother in law wants to come. Problem is my dad is a senior, brother in law isn't. Can the season ticket be upgraded for a game, or are they not too bothered if it's used by someone too young occasionally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 He can give his seat to whomever he pleases. Don't worry, just walk in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Think there'd only be a problem if an adult used a childs ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Think there'd only be a problem if an adult used a childs ticket. My parents have used my previously junior ST about 5 times over the last 2 seasons, no problems atall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph11be Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 my dad's friend used my student ticket loads of times last year. on the slip you hand over it doesn't actually say what type of ticket it is (or it didn't last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Sorry to be a killjoy, but if somebody uses a reduced price ticket when they are not entitled to, then they are depriving the club of money. In the case of the adult using the senior ticket, the issue isn't so clear cut, as the senior tickets start at 60 and the line is blurred between those close to that age, in that some look older than 60 when they're 50 and vice versa. Regarding adults using a child's ticket, then that's just plain wrong. Perhaps the club ought to have the tickets printed in different colours so that it is immediately obvious to the stewards on the turnstiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Sorry to be a killjoy, but if somebody uses a reduced price ticket when they are not entitled to, then they are depriving the club of money. In the case of the adult using the senior ticket, the issue isn't so clear cut, as the senior tickets start at 60 and the line is blurred between those close to that age, in that some look older than 60 when they're 50 and vice versa. Regarding adults using a child's ticket, then that's just plain wrong. Perhaps the club ought to have the tickets printed in different colours so that it is immediately obvious to the stewards on the turnstiles. First time my dad used it he phoned the TO and asked if he could upgrade it to an adult for the game and pay the difference. They said he could just use it how it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Sorry to be a killjoy, but if somebody uses a reduced price ticket when they are not entitled to, then they are depriving the club of money. In the case of the adult using the senior ticket, the issue isn't so clear cut, as the senior tickets start at 60 and the line is blurred between those close to that age, in that some look older than 60 when they're 50 and vice versa. Regarding adults using a child's ticket, then that's just plain wrong. Perhaps the club ought to have the tickets printed in different colours so that it is immediately obvious to the stewards on the turnstiles. Make your mind up, is it OK to deprive the club of revenue by cheating or not?. And the issue IS clear cut - someone aged 57 but looking over 60 passing themselves off as someone who is over 60 is just as bad as an 'offence' as an adult using a child's ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 On a similar theme, the Geezer clan can't make the game this week, but I have given our season tickets to a mate & his two kids, the only problem is that my mate has a daughter, I have 2 boys, with very boyish names. How vigilant are the stewards when it comes to checking names on season tickets and if they do rumble her will they let her in? These are three people that have never been to watch Saints before, so it's not as if they will be losing any money from this as they wouldn't be going otherwise, and you never know, they may like what they see & want to come again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 On a similar theme, the Geezer clan can't make the game this week, but I have given our season tickets to a mate & his two kids, the only problem is that my mate has a daughter, I have 2 boys, with very boyish names. How vigilant are the stewards when it comes to checking names on season tickets and if they do rumble her will they let her in? These are three people that have never been to watch Saints before, so it's not as if they will be losing any money from this as they wouldn't be going otherwise, and you never know, they may like what they see & want to come again. You won't have a problem. if they decide to check the front page then all they will check is the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Sorry to be a killjoy, but if somebody uses a reduced price ticket when they are not entitled to, then they are depriving the club of money. In the case of the adult using the senior ticket, the issue isn't so clear cut, as the senior tickets start at 60 and the line is blurred between those close to that age, in that some look older than 60 when they're 50 and vice versa. Regarding adults using a child's ticket, then that's just plain wrong. Perhaps the club ought to have the tickets printed in different colours so that it is immediately obvious to the stewards on the turnstiles. Are you being funny or just anal? Because, at the most correct way of answering the initial question, the answer would be he couldn't. Not because of the adult and senior difference, but fundamentally, at the NAME level. His Dad bought the ticket and therefore the ticket is just for him. If ANYBODY else uses the ticket then it is a loss to the club, because that other person would normally have to purchase a ticket to enter the ground. There are advantages of purchasing a ST are there for all to see, you make your choices, you pay the price. If yopu can't attend all the games, that is your loss, but part of the reason ST are reduced as to the cost of purchasing per game. Now for the non-anal, non-politically correct answer. Of course you can mate. Your dad has put his money up front, and as an honest law abiding citizen, a non-criminal if you wish, is not passing this ticket on in order to rip the club off or make money. Therefore, the club have a image they wish to uphold, a customer relationship that they wish to maintain and in the spirit of the initial purchase, will allow other people to use that ticket. People like Wes, get on their high horses because they were wronged at some point. The club do not agree with or implement his view. Nor do they wish to incur massive costs by implementing retina scans or thumbprint id or colour coding, mainly because it is a ridiculous extreme to counter a very minimal abuse of a very open minded system. If however, your father deliberately purchased the ST in order to receive full ticket value for every game he rented it out fo, then shame on him, and the Wes police will be round shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Are you being funny or just anal? Because, at the most correct way of answering the initial question, the answer would be he couldn't. Not because of the adult and senior difference, but fundamentally, at the NAME level. His Dad bought the ticket and therefore the ticket is just for him. If ANYBODY else uses the ticket then it is a loss to the club, because that other person would normally have to purchase a ticket to enter the ground. There are advantages of purchasing a ST are there for all to see, you make your choices, you pay the price. If yopu can't attend all the games, that is your loss, but part of the reason ST are reduced as to the cost of purchasing per game. Now for the non-anal, non-politically correct answer. Of course you can mate. Your dad has put his money up front, and as an honest law abiding citizen, a non-criminal if you wish, is not passing this ticket on in order to rip the club off or make money. Therefore, the club have a image they wish to uphold, a customer relationship that they wish to maintain and in the spirit of the initial purchase, will allow other people to use that ticket. People like Wes, get on their high horses because they were wronged at some point. The club do not agree with or implement his view. Nor do they wish to incur massive costs by implementing retina scans or thumbprint id or colour coding, mainly because it is a ridiculous extreme to counter a very minimal abuse of a very open minded system. If however, your father deliberately purchased the ST in order to receive full ticket value for every game he rented it out fo, then shame on him, and the Wes police will be round shortly. Is this me on the high horse, or you, John? I just stated the obvious and it is you that is analysing it to the nth degree. The simple answer is that if somebody cannot go to the match and hands the ticket over to somebody else in the same price category, I'm sure the club couldn't care less. However, if that ticket was bought at a big discount because the holder is either a child or a senior, then if somebody uses it who ought to have paid more for it, then they are depriving the club of additional revenue. It is a matter for the conscience of the individual on the one hand and the efficiency of the club's security measures on the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 P.S. I was never wronged at any stage, so quit the amateur psychology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 My parents have used my previously junior ST about 5 times over the last 2 seasons, no problems atall. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 I would say that it is morally ok if it is only an occasional use of a senior ticket by an adult less than 60 years old. Deliberate purchase of a senior ticket for use by an under-60 would be fraud IMO. I have two STs which until now were at the full adult price and sometimes they have been used by my son and my granddaughter and very occasionally by an over 60. I would not expect a refund if a concessionary spectator were to use one of my adult tickets. This is the first season that my tickets have qualified for the 'senior' discount so perhaps I should be more circumspect in their use from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 People like Wes, get on their high horses because they were wronged at some point. Seems like rather an assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Look out..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Sorry to be a killjoy, but if somebody uses a reduced price ticket when they are not entitled to, then they are depriving the club of money. Don't agree with your point above. The person concerned has paid their money and reserved the seat - it matters not who sits in that seat. It is only an issue if the person BUYING the ticket deliberately falsifies his/her details in a manner that obtains a ticket at a lower price and then I agree, that would be wrongfully depriving the club of money. In this case though I would rather a Saints supporter sat in a seat already paid for, than let it go empty during a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Sorry to be a killjoy, but if somebody uses a reduced price ticket when they are not entitled to, then they are depriving the club of money. In the case of the adult using the senior ticket, the issue isn't so clear cut, as the senior tickets start at 60 and the line is blurred between those close to that age, in that some look older than 60 when they're 50 and vice versa. Regarding adults using a child's ticket, then that's just plain wrong. Perhaps the club ought to have the tickets printed in different colours so that it is immediately obvious to the stewards on the turnstiles. Wes, contratulations, you have epotimised in one post, why a small minority of our fan base are the gayest, most politically correct driven tw1ts around. So what if one or two pay slightly less than what they do, have you ever considered the club have robbed each and every one of us for the last five years??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Personally, I have been a mature student for 3 years, (I am now well into my 40's) and was eligable for student discount... And have had STUDENT on my ticket for 3 years... I have never been asked to provide proof of my educational status at home or away matches in all this time. They dont have time/enthusiasm to check tickets on the gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester_Saint Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Don't agree with your point above. The person concerned has paid their money and reserved the seat - it matters not who sits in that seat. It is only an issue if the person BUYING the ticket deliberately falsifies his/her details in a manner that obtains a ticket at a lower price and then I agree, that would be wrongfully depriving the club of money. In this case though I would rather a Saints supporter sat in a seat already paid for, than let it go empty during a game. Yeah have to agree with that. Bit annoying on a personal level to think that some adults may be using Junior STs or kids tickets and saving themselves a lot of money when I sometimes get charged an adult fare because apparantly my student card isn't 'acceptable'. No reason why the guy wouldn't accept it but was the same guy at the ticket office who denied me a student ticket three times last season although I showed him the student card and consequently had to pay full price. We lost each time this happened, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 We lost each time this happened, too! Unbearably harsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 a small minority of our fan base are the gayest, most politically correct driven tw1ts around.homophobic by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Kev......... Nearly the big 1000 posts........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 homophobic by any chance? I think he means "ghey." I don't think the ticket office have ever even bothered to check my season ticket. Most of the time I just pass them the match stub and they let me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 So what if one or two pay slightly less than what they do, have you ever considered the club have robbed each and every one of us for the last five years??? Have you engaged your brain when typing this? Kindly explain to me how you have been robbed by the club? Did they force you to buy a ST or pay for tickets against your will? I agree that we haven't had value from the previous incumbents, but stop trying to make out that you never had the option to cease going if you didn't think that it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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