Go Away Far Far Away

[Legod Third Coming]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

[Block 5]

+1.

[beatlesaint]

Well said......6 games into a completely new regime and set up and already the shots are being fired. The team is still being built (2 new players sat in the stands yesterday) and gelling, and sorry but this takes time in any sport or occupation for that matter.

 

To realists this was always going to be the season of steady re-build readying ourselves for an onslaught next season.

[surrey1saint]

I agree with the OP.

[Coastal Saint]

This is one of the best postings I have ever seen on this site. I have been looking for the words myself but never come close.

 

WELL DONE MY FRIEND

[Channon's Sideburns]

No-one is expecting miracles.

 

Pardew is crafting his side - however you have to be in cloud cuckoo land to think that our youngsters from last season are good enough.

 

Apart from James, who came on leaps and bounds, the rest have gone miles backwards.

 

Sorry if that's seen as negative but it's the truth - you can keep positive till we are miles away from safety at Xmas if you like.

 

We've been here before, under Burley 'We're going to stonk someone soon', 'It's coming together'...all bollix.

 

I'd rather play Wotton or Gillett than Lallana...he's becoming one of the most over-rated players we've had for years.

 

Oh sorry, not allowed to criticise are we?

[sadoldgit]

Spot on. Trouble is we have some fans who get their licks from us being rubbish and revel in slagging the club off. Of course Lowe was a Godsend for them but since his depature nothing has changed and the discontent is now moving Pardew's way. Even the new owner came in for stick for not spending millions.

 

It is frustrating but it is going to take time.

[lambtiss]

Spot on mate

[Legod Third Coming]

No-one is expecting miracles.

 

Pardew is crafting his side - however you have to be in cloud cuckoo land to think that our youngsters from last season are good enough.

 

Apart from James, who came on leaps and bounds, the rest have gone miles backwards.

 

Sorry if that's seen as negative but it's the truth - you can keep positive till we are miles away from safety at Xmas if you like.

 

We've been here before, under Burley 'We're going to stonk someone soon', 'It's coming together'...all bollix.

 

I'd rather play Wotton or Gillett than Lallana...he's becoming one of the most over-rated players we've had for years.

 

Oh sorry, not allowed to criticise are we?

 

Until then you had a semblence of an argument...

 

After yesterday's game, I was really p!55ed off. We went direct too often, Lambert played too deep for a half, Thomson didn't run at people, down the line, Mills did but his crosses weren't great, James had some excellent delivery, nearly set up the winner, we had a ball across the line anyone could have scored if they had gambled, but they didn't...

 

I'm not saying anyone is happy with not winning, or failing to beat ten men. But the best teams in the world fail to beat ten men too, you know?

 

We are a work in progress.

 

Most of our fans would have walked into Da Vinci's studio as he was washing his brushes in preparation to paint the Mona Lisa and called for her to be blonde, thinner, with blue eyes, and a smile, more of a smile, and topless, or at least less demure, and then eventually, after a few brush strokes would start calling for Da Vinci to go, to bring in Rubens, then after a few sketches it would be Rembrandt and so on...

 

Whatever has happened in the past, forget it.

 

Six games into a season and seeing genuine improvement - or did noone notice our defence yesterday, the most solid it has been for years??

 

Fans are entitled to express any opinion.

 

But all that the expectation is doing is creating anxiety in the beholder. And when this translates to the pitch we go direct...

 

der...

Edited 6 September, 2009 by Legod Third Coming

[ulstersaint]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

 

As Andy Gray would say on Sky, "Take a bow, son!"

[InvictaSaint]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

 

I like your style. :-)

[John B]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

 

So did you think the same last year when JP was in charge

[Channon's Sideburns]

Until then you had a semblence of an argument...

 

After yesterday's game, I was really p!55ed off. We went direct too often, Lambert played too deep for a half, Thomson didn't run at people, down the line, Mills did but his crosses weren't great, James had some excellent delivery, nearly set up the winner, we had a ball across the line anyone could have scored if they had gambled, but they didn't...

 

I'm not saying anyone is happy with not winning, or failing to beat ten men. But the best teams in the world fail to beat ten men too, you know?

 

We are a work in progress.

 

Most of our fans would have walked into Da Vinci's studio as he was washing his brushes in preparation to paint the Mona Lisa and called for her to be blonde, thinner, with blue eyes, and a smile, more of a smile, and topless, or at least less demure, and then eventually, after a few brush strokes would start calling for Da Vinci to go, to bring in Rubens, then after a few sketches it would be Rembrandt and so on...

 

Whatever has happened in the past, forget it.

 

Six games into a season and seeing genuine improvement - or did noone notice our defence yesterday, the most solid it has been for years??

 

Fans are entitled to express any opinion.

 

But all that the expectation is doing is creating anxiety in the beholder. And when this translates to the pitch we go direct...

 

der...

 

Can the Mona Lisa take corners?? ;-)

 

Seriously, we need to remember last season, when we all thought 'everything will be ok' - unless we are VERY careful, we could be in a similar position.

 

We need results and fast - by Xmas it will be too late.

[John B]

Can the Mona Lisa take corners?? ;-)

 

Seriously, we need to remember last season, when we all thought 'everything will be ok' - unless we are VERY careful, we could be in a similar position.

 

We need results and fast - by Xmas it will be too late.

 

That is probably how I see it we should not be complacent and put our trust in Pardew who was a complete loser at Charlton.

 

 

He may well be good for SFC but at the moment he is not and that is how he is being judged on at the moment

[saintjinksie]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

 

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... whats the view like from up there?

[Thedelldays]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

 

 

what an utterly patronising post

[Delmary]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

Great post. AP is slowly building a team. It'll take time and another two transfer windows. We're 2-3 players away from having a top team in this division. AP has only had six weeks to rebuild this team. The defence is sorted, the rest is work-in-progress. In Bates' day fans were more realistic and accepted that it would take 3-4 years to bring sustainable success. Patience everyone!

[Legod Third Coming]

Can the Mona Lisa take corners?? ;-)

 

Seriously, we need to remember last season, when we all thought 'everything will be ok' - unless we are VERY careful, we could be in a similar position.

 

We need results and fast - by Xmas it will be too late.

 

Forget last season. We had no money and every game we got worse, because the kids could not cope with the pressure, the confidence being knocked and the abuse from the terraces.

 

Pardew is getting them out of the first team, slowly and carefully so as not to kill their confidence forever. They might still be good enough one day. He's identified that James and Llalana (corners aside) can probably cut it, but that some of the others can't yet.

 

In ten games, if we are in the bottom three and have made no improvement, panic.

 

But Christ, I didn't once fear Colchester would score yesterday with 11 men. And I spent last season betting on when we would concede our first goal...

 

It's hard, we have been asked to be patient so often, but this time surely it's worth it??

 

And I have it on very good authority that Lisa had a superb left foot...

[Clifford Nelson]

QUOTE]

 

I very much agree, but there must still be room for opinions. I'm as full of them as anybody, but this is not the time to call for the manager's head or have a go at the owner. That is just wild emotions expressing themselves, wanting to have a go, but forgetting that we are not up against managerial ineptitude or executive arrogance any longer. It's difficult to not have it on the Forum, but a couple of years in Mongolia sounds a rather attractive idea.

[sad saints fan]

excellent post LSC

[InvictaSaint]

That is probably how I see it we should not be complacent and put our trust in Pardew who was a complete loser at Charlton.

 

 

He may well be good for SFC but at the moment he is not and that is how he is being judged on at the moment

 

Why do people focus on the Pardew at Charlton, and not the Pardew of Reading and West Ham? Is it because it doesn't suit a particular agenda? Incredible really. I do hope that when posters on this board are having their performance reviews, or whatever they are called in different professions, that they won't be surprised when their bosses focus exclusively on the 20% of things they didn't do very well and totally ignore the 80% of achievements that were positive. Honestly.....Reading were relegation candidates when Pardew took over and within two seasons were in the play offs. Let's be a little patient shall we?

[NN2 Saint]

Agree with what your saying but the fact we have only draws to our name and against the likes of Stockport, Colchester etc imo is worrying. Hopefully in a months time we will be in the + points section but if not it wil be a very long battle to avoid another relegation. So basically all for giving a bit of time but results do need to come especially at home

[Window Cleaner]

We need results and fast - by Xmas it will be too late.

 

 

It would be interesting to know the limit of deficit that the OP thinks acceptable before we start moving upwards rather than face a season in the 4th division.

 

To me -11 is nigh on that limit, -14/15 with 35 games left would probably be

beyond it, it's all well and good saying give it time, but how much more do we have,I'd say we need another 56/60 points from our 40 remaining games,it's still doable but getting on towards point zero.

[Thedelldays]

Why do people focus on the Pardew at Charlton, and not the Pardew of Reading and West Ham? Is it because it doesn't suit a particular agenda? In?

charlton was his last job....

[JustMike]

what an utterly patronising post

 

compared with most of yours, no not really.

[OnTheCross]

I don't think "everything will be OK." That's what I take from the original post and I completely agree with it. This will be a tough season. Staying up is the goal and anything else is a bonus.

 

I was pleased we weren't thumped in the opening few games. There are enough signs to be hopeful that we'll turn it round. But that needs folks to show a bit of bottle, something we've not been great at in recent memory. As the OP said, no slating, no booing. Just support.

 

The alternative is that we ditch *this* manager, and go through the same nonsense in the next few months. I'm not saying that the support is to be blind, but Pardew has easily done more than enough to keep things going.

[.comsaint]

charlton was his last job....

 

Like Strachan at Coventry - before coming here...

[Thedelldays]

Like Strachan at Coventry - before coming here...

indeed..but that wont mean pardew will be a success....

 

pardew is pardew...and at the mo..i am very worried

[Legod Third Coming]

what an utterly patronising post

 

Ah feck it, so they now have internet access in Mongolia...

[JustMike]

indeed..but that wont mean pardew will be a success....

 

pardew is pardew...and at the mo..i am very worried

 

why?

 

we have a complete new set up. New players, new coaches, new scouting system..oh and a club to support.

 

If you are basing your concearns on yesterday then look at the bigger picture.

[Thedelldays]

why?

 

we have a complete new set up. New players, new coaches, new scouting system..oh and a club to support.

 

If you are basing your concearns on yesterday then look at the bigger picture.

 

 

the bigger picture is.......no win in 6 no excuses now..

 

other teams have not even half of what we have...I think pardew is a good manager..but getting worried and time to deliver..other teams seem to win and do so with make shift squads and no money..

 

I dont subscribe to "we have a club to support" as apparently this was all part of the plan in going into admin to get rupert out..

 

time to deliver...or pardew will be fired..simple as that really

[JustMike]

indeed..but that wont mean pardew will be a success....

 

pardew is pardew...and at the mo..i am very worried

 

interesing that you say the above when on another thread you say this...

 

"I think i have stated god knows how many times on many threads that I think pardew is a very good manager..even had to defend him when quite alot were "underwhelmed" by his appointment

 

even after a utterly crap start (for various reasons) I think we will be OK...well, more than OK.."

 

So, which is it??

[Thedelldays]

interesing that you say the above when on another thread you say this...

 

"I think i have stated god knows how many times on many threads that I think pardew is a very good manager..even had to defend him when quite alot were "underwhelmed" by his appointment

 

even after a utterly crap start (for various reasons) I think we will be OK...well, more than OK.."

 

So, which is it??

 

 

eh...I think we will be ok...does that mean I should not be worried..what if my opinion is wrong and we wont be OK...?

[.comsaint]

But it's only the first weekend in September?!?!

 

Papa & Jaidi due to play. Holmes due back sometime soon - along with the very promising Kayne McLaggon in the near future. No doubt Pardew is looking for a couple of new loan players on top of all that too.

 

I certainly am not worried this early in the season. We are now heading in the right direction - very much so.

[JustMike]

the bigger picture is.......no win in 6 no excuses now..

 

other teams have not even half of what we have...I think pardew is a good manager..but getting worried and time to deliver..other teams seem to win and do so with make shift squads and no money..

 

I dont subscribe to "we have a club to support" as apparently this was all part of the plan in going into admin to get rupert out..

 

time to deliver...or pardew will be fired..simple as that really

 

i agree with you in part, but other teams with half of what we have, have been playing together for a while, are settled, know how each other plays. That is something which is beginning to happen here, the games v Brum and Stockport are proof to this where we totally outplayed them and if not for very bad officials would have won both games.

 

Yesterday was frustrating, they came here to put every man behind the ball, even before their sending off, even more so after it. Im looking forward to Papa playing, ad Saga returning, will give us more options.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I don't think "everything will be OK." That's what I take from the original post and I completely agree with it. This will be a tough season. Staying up is the goal and anything else is a bonus.

 

I was pleased we weren't thumped in the opening few games. There are enough signs to be hopeful that we'll turn it round. But that needs folks to show a bit of bottle, something we've not been great at in recent memory. As the OP said, no slating, no booing. Just support.

 

The alternative is that we ditch *this* manager, and go through the same nonsense in the next few months. I'm not saying that the support is to be blind, but Pardew has easily done more than enough to keep things going.

 

This, and the O.P., make fine and logical sense.

 

Rome was not built in a day. This may take a million baby steps.

 

Sure, I get fed up with the last minute losses, failing to beat a ten man team and only getting a draw at best. Who doesn't?

 

This is all about shaping Saints, building stability for a secure future. What happened up until the start of this season is now in the past. Let's take our lessons from that and go forward in support.

 

All I really want is for us to stay up and be a stable team and organisation.

 

We do need to be realistic, despite our hopes and aspirations, this is going to take some time.

[jonesyboyo]

You mention the word REBUILD in the first sentence. I like it. We all need to be patient and I am sorry that there are so many Saints fans used to being in the top leagues and now can't cope with us being proper ****ed and in league one. We are a losing team with a losing mentailitiy and we need to turn it around and we will turn it around. It won't be this season though. Please be patient. I want pardew to stick around for 5+ seasons. Thank god we are still alive and I will always love this team no matter what division. Rebuild. COYR

[JustMike]

eh...I think we will be ok...does that mean I should not be worried..what if my opinion is wrong and we wont be OK...?

 

 

no not at all, just dont get how on 1 thread you say "Pardew is Pardew and am worried" and then on another say that we will be ok, in fact more than ok?

[Thedelldays]

i agree with you in part, but other teams with half of what we have, have been playing together for a while, are settled, know how each other plays. That is something which is beginning to happen here, the games v Brum and Stockport are proof to this where we totally outplayed them and if not for very bad officials would have won both games.

 

Yesterday was frustrating, they came here to put every man behind the ball, even before their sending off, even more so after it. Im looking forward to Papa playing, ad Saga returning, will give us more options.

 

 

are they really settled..?

look at colchester..are they settled..?

 

 

the turn around of players in league 1 and 2 is pretty high..(many beeing frees) and we have SPENT more than many teams will spend in 5 years.

 

other teams with, to be honest, FECK ALL to their name, no money, no facilites, no nothing are winning games...

 

I was hoping we would have won..I THINK we will be ok..but how long do we blindly believe that..?...could we be wrong..? maybe..

[Legod Third Coming]

"Boothroyd then saw his team miss two golden chances on the stroke of half-time, but the rest of the game was dominated by wave after wave of Southampton attacks.

 

Midfielder Hammond and defender Trotman were unable to convert Saints' best goal scoring opportunities and the home side were subjected to a crescendo of boos at the final whistle."

 

how the BBC reported the game. Makes you proud to be a fan of a club that eight weeks ago was about to disappear forever doesn't it...

[Thedelldays]

how the BBC reported the game. Makes you proud to be a fan of a club that eight weeks ago was about to disappear forever doesn't it...

not really..i was dead against going into admin..but I was assured (by many) that is will be ok and it was needed to get rid of lowe..so that fact we are still here is no surprise to me..and it cant be used as an excuse for not winning every week...

[Roger]

I agree we need to give it time but at the same time pardew had had more money than nearly any other league 1 manager and we haven't won a game not even against a team with ten men most if the game. I thought we were very poor second half yesterday. Unlike many other posters I think that mills was poor when he came on. Rather play holmes. Also, pardew should have replaced James with Morgan at half time. He left it too late and lambart drops too deep.

[S-Clarke]

Rather play holmes. Also, pardew should have replaced James with Morgan at half time. He left it too late and lambart drops too deep.

 

I think we should cut our losses with Holmes...injured again apparently. Frustrating because we saw what he could offer us last season...well at the start of it anyway.

 

Lambo dropped too deep because of the lack of any service, so he had to come and ge the ball so he could remember what it was! We need to learn how to use lambert, because we're not getting the best out of him at all.

[surrey1saint]

I think we should cut our losses with Holmes...injured again apparently. Frustrating because we saw what he could offer us last season...well at the start of it anyway.

 

Lambo dropped too deep because of the lack of any service, so he had to come and ge the ball so he could remember what it was! We need to learn how to use lambert, because we're not getting the best out of him at all.

 

Hit the nail on the head mate.

 

As has been said before wouldn't matter if we had Torres upfront he would have trouble scoring without being given the ball!

[david in sweden]

Well said......6 games into a completely new regime and set up and already the shots are being fired. The team is still being built (2 new players sat in the stands yesterday) and gelling, and sorry but this takes time in any sport or occupation for that matter.

 

To realists this was always going to be the season of steady re-build readying ourselves for an onslaught next season.

'

 

 

 

Absolutely. A little understanding of history would tell us that both Ted Bates AND Lawrie McMenemy could have been sacked 5 times a season - if that were the case. It takes time, I think AP has the right idea, but not the right balance YET !

 

Lord grant me patience - but hurry !

[westofshannonsaint]

People need to realise that there is a middle ground, the grey area where life is lived.

 

I am sure that most of us agree that 4 points from the first 6 games in league 1 is unacceptable, and even with that the vast majority (if not all of us) think AP should continue to be the man in charge and recognise that he is building the squad, but even after buying the leagues top goal scorer and having 17 shots on target we still cant score against 10 man colchester - at home.

 

I am also sure that the majority of the league would swap their squad/manager/transfer budget/facilities for ours in the morning, but still i know that most of us thought we were going to concede in the last 10 minutes yesterday.

 

I don't understand why people on here have to be all one way or another, for or against, happy clappy or negative nelly, when it comes to football & Saints I can be all those things at once, but my overwhelming emotion is one of frustration.

 

I am sure we can all agree that if we were asked before the season started how many points we would get after 6 games we all would have said more than 4.

 

Now to balance that out I am off to look for a thread that will tell me we only need x points per game to get promoted.

 

How many of us still think that Pardew's target of midtable by Christmas is obtainable?

Edited 6 September, 2009 by westofshannonsaint

[glkdcdes]

There are clearly some people who canot cope with being bought by a billionnaire and watching their entire football club being rebuilt from the ground up.

 

New Manager, New Scouting Network, All New Coaches, Entirely New Playing Squad.

 

So here is my message to you.

 

Go Away. Go Far Away. So Far Away that you cannot access football results. Try Mongolia, the centre of it.

 

Then stay there.

 

For a year or two.

 

 

Then come back.

 

And all the hard work will be done.

 

And you can bask in it,

 

While the rest of us have endured it with good grace.

 

Without booing it, without slating it and without jeopardising it.

 

Thanks.

 

Well said. I know it wont happen because it is a world of free speach, but wouldnt it be great if any one disagreeing with these sentiments would simply **** off. I know they dont have the wit to see it and i can imagine the response from these morons but you people slagging off the manager allready [and i know it is very few] really are not part of the new southampton.

 

So once again, good post well said.

[egreog]

Totally agree with the title.......some reality in the "dreamers" on this site expecting instant success is well overdue............too many expecting overnight results........came close to a victory yesterday and didn't play that well!..........things will get better but many should give their stress levels a break and just accept that its a slow process.....

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I agree we need to give it time but at the same time pardew had had more money than nearly any other league 1 manager and we haven't won a game not even against a team with ten men most if the game. I thought we were very poor second half yesterday. Unlike many other posters I think that mills was poor when he came on. Rather play holmes. Also, pardew should have replaced James with Morgan at half time. He left it too late and lambart drops too deep.

 

I know that this is going back over the events of the close season but Pardew was appointed late on, he has stated that there was no infrastructure on the scouting side. So he has had little time to identify and implement what he needed. I admire his honesty and believe that he has hit the ground running to the best of what he is able to do given those confines.

 

He could have had millions to spend but with few, or no, targets identified early enough he was stymied. Come January we may well see some movement, in and out, of players he has decided on.

[CB Fry]

Six games into a season and seeing genuine improvement

 

 

We're doing as badly as John Barnes' Tranmere team, and everyone knew Barnes was going to be an abject failure before a ball was even kicked.

 

And Tranmere haven't spent a million pounds on a midfielder, a million pounds on the best striker in the league last season, and have a million pound keeper and million pound defender already at the club, plus internationals, plus players rated at six figure sums that we can afford to turn down. Oh, and managed by the best paid manager in the division who has had his way with player ins and outs and his hand picked backroom staff and the biggest feel good factor at the club since the cup final.

 

Zero wins in six in those circumstances cannot be patronising compared to Leonardo putting together a masterpiece and the plebs slagging it off.

 

Zero wins in six. Get over yourself.