SO16_Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8624276.stm WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Bloody hell,that looks very strange,just like he applied the brakes and 'ejected 'the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Remarkable video. It looks like both wheels sets of brake pads have suddenly locked up under maximum downforce at the end of the straight in such a way that grip between the tyres and track was not broken. Because of that, the front wheels want to turn the car over; i.e. back end over front. That won't happen because the whole car is glued to the tarmac, the turning force has shattered the suspension and steering mounts. Notice that not only do the wheels leave the car, but essentially so does the braking system. Of course, there's no front axle, so nothing else to hold the wheels on with. Off they go..! Anyway, that's my theory. Did anyone else see the energy stored in the wheels being released. They went bouncing off at a heck of a rate. Quite exciting. More please..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 April, 2010 One worrying thing about this, possibly even more than the crash itself, is the fact that the tyres went over the safety barrier and some spectators went scurrying away so they weren't hit. Agree with St L - all very exciting stuff. Wonder if the Red Bull cars will be affected by this too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Bloody hell, I read about it on twitter earlier, but only just seen the footage. That is incredible, never seen anything like it at all before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 That's not good. That could have serious repercussions for STR and F1 in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I love the way he tries to steer away from the tyre wall even though he has no wheels to steer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 How the f'$@k did Buemi's wheels come off like that ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8624276.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Was going to put "How the f$@k did you miss the other thread", but that's the old me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Was going to put "How the f$@k did you miss the other thread", but that's the old me. OK, but I rather naively looked on the MOTORING forum, which is where other GP threads seem to appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Sheeet, I thought thats where the other one was. My apologies Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I cant believe the toro rosso's wheel EXPLODED off like that, nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I blame Ponty. Not sure why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 That was mental. No wonder he was shaken up, he was just a passenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Bloody hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 That'll buff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I blame Ponty. Not sure why... Maybe because he was sighted stooping over the front of Buemis car with a hacksaw last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Maybe because he was sighted stooping over the front of Buemis car with a hacksaw last night... Maybe not a hacksaw, but he's certainly up to something in the background here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Woah, holy bad thread merge Batman. Wouldnt have happened in my day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Something clearly not right there!!! Think I'm right in saying that the wheels are supposed to remain tethered to the chassis in any form of accident (following the death of a marshall in Melbourne a few years ago). The crash testing should ensure that this happens. Presumably in this instance the forces were to great for the tethers meaning that the wheels were able to break free. The other factor could be that something has "cut" through the tethers but for this to happen on both wheels is unlikely. The fact that it went over the barriers in to a spectator area will mean the FIA have to go away and think about it. Expect to see higher barriers on that corner come race day. STR will have to go through the wreckage, the telementary and footage to try and work out how it all happened. Shouldn't effect Red Bull too much as I believe they have 2 seperate chassis designs this season as they now have to operate independantly. OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Something clearly not right there!!! Think I'm right in saying that the wheels are supposed to remain tethered to the chassis in any form of accident (following the death of a marshall in Melbourne a few years ago). The crash testing should ensure that this happens. Presumably in this instance the forces were to great for the tethers meaning that the wheels were able to break free. The other factor could be that something has "cut" through the tethers but for this to happen on both wheels is unlikely. The fact that it went over the barriers in to a spectator area will mean the FIA have to go away and think about it. Expect to see higher barriers on that corner come race day. STR will have to go through the wreckage, the telementary and footage to try and work out how it all happened. Shouldn't effect Red Bull too much as I believe they have 2 seperate chassis designs this season as they now have to operate independantly. OOO Nope. The part of the chassis the teathers were attached to was also ripped off in the accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 It's being reported as a failed upright, which has caused a secondary failure on the other side. The upright is the machined lump of metal fixed to the end of the wishbones, pushrod and trackrod that accepts the brake disc, caliper and wheel. Seems a bit odd that both would fail simultaneously though. I reckon there's more to come out of this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 It's being reported as a failed upright, which has caused a secondary failure on the other side. The upright is the machined lump of metal fixed to the end of the wishbones, pushrod and trackrod that accepts the brake disc, caliper and wheel. Seems a bit odd that both would fail simultaneously though. I reckon there's more to come out of this story. Sounds similar to the results of some of my best Mig welding!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 Another pole for Vettel. Interesting to see Schumi blown away by his team-mate once again in qualifying. I bet he's beginning to wonder if his comeback was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 There is definitely something a)genius or b)dodgy about the ride height on those Red Bulls. Whatever it is, it works very well. Fingers crossed for a wet race tomorrow. There's a better than average chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 Epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 what are the chances of Lewis being penalised for the pitlane incident and/or the incident with Webber after the safety car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 Loved Petrov mullering Schumacher and Webber to redeem for his excursion off the track. Brilliant racing from the rookie! Shame the safety car cost us more points but has to go down as points won after quali. Yet again the Red Bulls disappoint in the race. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 what are the chances of Lewis being penalised for the pitlane incident and/or the incident with Webber after the safety car The overtaking incident on Webber was perfectly legit. Think Hamilton should be punished for sticking on it through all the other teams pit boxes on his way down the straight. Vettel a bit naughty, but I'd let him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 Webber "Sir! Sir! Lewis drove into me! Sir!" Well if your team mate wasn't the other side of him he wouldn't have had to! Racing incident! Pitlane - Racing Incident! Alonso jump start - Non racing incident. Surprised FIA didn't blame McLaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 From BBC: Buemi and Hamilton escape with reprimand for pitlane actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 Buemi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 April, 2010 Share Posted 19 April, 2010 For the benefit of my old mucker, StL, there were 70 completed overtaking manoeuvres in that Grand Prix. That's right, 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2010 Share Posted 19 April, 2010 (edited) For the benefit of my old mucker, StL, there were 70 completed overtaking manoeuvres in that Grand Prix. That's right, 70. That sounds really good Ponty but can you compare it to last year's China GP or other previous stats from Ronnie Peterson times. (apart from Lotus :-)) . Edited 19 April, 2010 by TopGun forget my comments, drunk, when was the best passing season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 April, 2010 Share Posted 19 April, 2010 It appears that there were 9 completed passes in 2009. That seems low, and I'm guessing that my data source has an incorrect entry. There were 40 in 2008, 51 in 2007, 20 in 2006 and 17 in 2005. I'll have to check that stat for 2009 but I haven't got stats going back to '78 I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 29 April, 2010 Share Posted 29 April, 2010 I think motor racing as a whole is getting more processional. Watched the BTCC this season, nowhere near as good as it was in the 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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