harvey Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 I expected more from him tbh, no imrovement on what we had....does a good impression of a crab tho' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken With A Banjo Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Last season he had a fine season. Was captain for a while, and we tended to have our worst performances when one of either Hammond or schneiderlin was missing. He's not suddenly rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 I thought he was dreadful today. Really very poor. But then we have no-one better to come in and take his place. And Morgan was equally anonymous. In fact we were below par everywhere today, but epitomisied by the lack of drive and desire in central midfield to take charge and get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNik Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 If he is meant to be the more attacking of the 2 central midfielders, why is his first instinct when he gets the ball to turn away from goal and pass it backwards or sideways at best. Surely when teams come to put everyone behind the ball we need to play the ball through teams quicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 he was Dr Hammond today - far too many hospital passes to his team mates he also kept waiting for the ball to come him instead of going to the ball and claiming it when it was a 50/50 maybe we need to play Guly Do Pardo with Schneiderlin instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 agreed he was poor today, problem is players like Hammond will always look poor if the team is performing below par Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Useless today. Completely dominated by that little 14 yr old they had in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 I always liked Hammond last season and I couldnt see why some people were having a go at him. But **** me he was absolutely bloody useless today and hasn;t been that much better all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 18 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2010 I thought we bought him as an attacking midfielder .....he's anything but as far as I'm concerned....an average run of the mill div 3/4 player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Never really rated him as anything more than a half decent league 1 midfielder, Pardew even said in one of his post match interviews last year that he may find him replaced if he didn't improve his technique. And for me that is what he is, i can't argue his work rate that is tremendous but you need to have more to your game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Did not have a great game as he is in the same boat as Puncheon. They both don't want the ball as they are scared to lose it. The groans they get when the team gets read out does not help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Did not have a great game as he is in the same boat as Puncheon. They both don't want the ball as they are scared to lose it. The groans they get when the team gets read out does not help either. The criticism Puncheon is getting is unfair and it's not helping the situation, he's been no worse than alot of our players. When he's fit and on form he's one of the best attacking wingers at this level, we saw that last season. He's going through a barron spell at the moment and the last thing he needs is the crowd turning on him. If anyone is likely to do something magic and out of the blue, it's him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 The criticism Puncheon is getting is unfair and it's not helping the situation, he's been no worse than alot of our players. When he's fit and on form he's one of the best attacking wingers at this level, we saw that last season. He's going through a barron spell at the moment and the last thing he needs is the crowd turning on him. If anyone is likely to do something magic and out of the blue, it's him. He is holding onto the ball far far too long, which for me is confidence based, but also because the few games i have seen the movement around him was terrible. He actually didn't look too bad against Swindon (cup) and when all the ball we seemed more threatening, but Wilkins decided to take him off instead of Guly, which was strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 The criticism Puncheon is getting is unfair and it's not helping the situation, he's been no worse than alot of our players. When he's fit and on form he's one of the best attacking wingers at this level, we saw that last season. He's going through a barron spell at the moment and the last thing he needs is the crowd turning on him. If anyone is likely to do something magic and out of the blue, it's him. I totally agree but ****ing 'ell when he's bad he's well ****ing bad. Could not trap a spud sack today, he's needs a break from footy for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 I totally agree but ****ing 'ell when he's bad he's well ****ing bad. Could not trap a spud sack today, he's needs a break from footy for a while. i think he could do with a few weeks out of the starting 11, see what he's like coming on as a sub - but we need a loan in first before we can try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 i think he could do with a few weeks out of the starting 11, see what he's like coming on as a sub - but we need a loan in first before we can try that. Holmes deserves a go in the side, with Puncheon on the bench. I think the first loans we should think about are strikers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Never really rated him as anything more than a half decent league 1 midfielder, Pardew even said in one of his post match interviews last year that he may find him replaced if he didn't improve his technique. And for me that is what he is, i can't argue his work rate that is tremendous but you need to have more to your game for me. I thought he was great when we first got him, it was a toss up at the time who was more important to the team, Hammond or Lambert. Ever since he has been on the slide to where we find him now. Just why oh why did we release Gillett without even trying him in his correct position. It can't be because he is in a higher league that things are working well for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonibell Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 He was that poor today did not think he even played,in the game. 0-0 flattered Colchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haddock22 Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 both hammond and spiderman are classic sideways and back pass players which is whu saints are so limited in scoring goals.no initiative no insight no good.Puncheon at least tries to be inventive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 18 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2010 both hammond and spiderman are classic sideways and back pass players which is whu saints are so limited in scoring goals.no initiative no insight no good.Puncheon at least tries to be inventive That's why we struggle during games, sideways and back pass players......totally inafective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Useless today. Completely dominated by that little 14 yr old they had in midfield. Ha Ha! Yes - kept thinking his mum was going to run onto the pitch and drag him off by the ear for his tea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Said for ages that Hammond adds nothing to the side, I'm not even sure what his actual role is. Just dillay dallay's around in the middle of the field not really doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 I thought he was great when we first got him, it was a toss up at the time who was more important to the team, Hammond or Lambert. Ever since he has been on the slide to where we find him now. Just why oh why did we release Gillett without even trying him in his correct position. It can't be because he is in a higher league that things are working well for him? He added energy to the side, and definately added something as otherwise we just had Wotton, Gillet or the guy whos name escapes me (brother plays for MK Dons). But all in all he isn't a great player, technically he isn't great, his passing is at times terrible and his touch is pretty aweful. We need another midfielder, that has something about him and we need him soon. I am so so dissapointed we didn't sign anyone here in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 The criticism Puncheon is getting is unfair and it's not helping the situation, he's been no worse than alot of our players. When he's fit and on form he's one of the best attacking wingers at this level, we saw that last season. He's going through a barron spell at the moment and the last thing he needs is the crowd turning on him. If anyone is likely to do something magic and out of the blue, it's him. You miss the point of this forum. The point is to slag off your own players. Puncheon has assumed the role of the boo-boy, following a long line of "crap" players, many of whom are currently doing very well thank you in premiership clubs. Says more about the whingers than the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Last season he had a fine season. Was captain for a while, and we tended to have our worst performances when one of either Hammond or schneiderlin was missing. He's not suddenly rubbish. Who's captain at the moment then? I've not been to SMS yet this season so haven't noticed that he wasn't anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 (edited) both hammond and spiderman are classic sideways and back pass players which is whu saints are so limited in scoring goals.no initiative no insight no good.Puncheon at least tries to be inventive Hammond and Schneiderlin are too similar to be a regular midfield partnership. The both prefer to sit in midfield, play defensive and let the game pass them by without making much of an impact. It needs to be one or the other IMO. Hammond is not my favourite and until he improves, he will keep receiving stick from me. When he signed, I expected so much more that what he produced and IMO doesn't warrant having the captain's armband, give it to Fonte. His passing is poor and doesn't score enough goals or contribute to the attacking phase of the team. As today, I have noticed so many times over the course of last season, there was too much of a gap between the midfield and strikers leaving Lambert & Barnard chasing shadows up top without any support. I'd play Guly & Schneiderlin. Schneiderlin could do a really good job at being that exciting playmaking midfielder with flair if he worked on it but for the time being, he should stick to what he's good at and that's breaking up play and simple passing (except today he tried to be Beckham/Gerrard in midfield with 60 yard passes that went horribly wrong). Once Guly finds his feet, push him, let him attack and be creative and keep Schneiderlin in the sitting role breaking up the play and running the midfield. We could then use Hammond as Wotton is currently used, bring him on for 15-20 mins to shore up games we are struggling to see out. Edited 18 September, 2010 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 18 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2010 You miss the point of this forum. The point is to slag off your own players. Puncheon has assumed the role of the boo-boy, following a long line of "crap" players, many of whom are currently doing very well thank you in premiership clubs. Says more about the whingers than the players. You're right brmbrm!, I suggest we shut this forum(people expressing their own opinions) down........we don't want people to say what they think do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 He has been terrible in the 4 games i have seen so far this season. Dreadful in fact. But our backup is Wotton or Pulis....... Brmbrm- if soneone is playing badly over a period, they should expect to get slated, uber fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 He's far too similar to Schneiderlin, just older and not quite as good as Morgan. I have never really understood why we have persisted in playing two defensive midfielders, what I find ever more strange are the ammount of people I speak to who seem to think we lack a defensive midfielder to play alongside them both?! odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McGrath's Jockstrap Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Col U fans I spoke to today after the game were amazed by Hammond's physical condition. They say he looks a bit lumpy compared to what he has like there. His performance today was let's face it - off the pace. Perkins of Col U buzzed all around him. BTW he is 34 and wanted away from Col U in the summer. I'm not saying sign him (far from it) but when a 34 yr old bosses midfield for the opposition - what was Hammond doing?. We need a different solution in midfield - play 3-5-2 if we can't change players until Jan - we have to work with what we have !!. 4-4-2 with Hammond and Schneiderlin too slow and predictable......we have been sussed in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Hammond and Morgan = Gerrard and Lampard. My 2 pence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 Sorry but Hammond was dire today.He didnt win any tackles and apart from passing sideways,he offered nothing to the team. Our midfield at the moment is non exsistant and Hammond,whos supposed to be our leader brings nothing but a poor effort to our gameplain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 I'd much prefer to tell Hammond to sit and let Shniederlin off the leash like he played for France in the toulon tournament. I would also prefer to replace Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJc Posted 18 September, 2010 Share Posted 18 September, 2010 How is this guy captain material? He does nothing to inspire the players around him. Ive never seen him bollock someone or take a game by the scruff of the neck. This guy is the engine room... Both our centre mids play far too deep. When they receive the ball they have 2 options go sideways (hammond) or try a hollywood ball to switch play (Schneiderlin). We have become far too predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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