Trouble on the Salisbury train

[Shroppie]

I was on the 18.10 and it was held up for ages at Romsey and Salisbury because some louts had assaulted a passenger (disabled, I heard). Anyone know anything? Hope it wasn't Saints fans.

[scott_saints]

It was the yoof trying to move up a few places in the league of louts.

[grammy]

We caught the 19.10 to Salisbury to be greeted by about 15 Police officers and 2 riot vans at Salisbury station. No idea what happened though.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

BBS is back!

[Amesbury Saint]

if trouble was on the 18.10 and but the police were ready for the 19.10 something had gone wrong!

[torsaint]

Trouble was definitely on 1810 and in middle carriage I think. Police met us at Salisbury and ran to that carriage. We were held up for over 40 minutes but I don't know any more. Possibly a bust up between Barnard and Bignall over bragging rights.

[Shroppie]

The 18.10 was delayed so long the 19.10 caught it up. Incident sounded nasty from what the conductor said.

[boxosponge]

Glad I was in the rear carriage (sleeping off the 4 pints I'd had)

Got out at Salisbury (for a pee) and saw the next one arriving, so I jumped onto that one

[RonManager]

Odd, I've been using that train for yonks and never a hint of trouble. I usually travel in the lead coach.

[bungle]

I was on rear carriage of 1810, so not really sure what happened, but certainly at least one person was dragged off the train by coppers.

 

I switched platform and got the one that was 30 mins behind (goes to Worcester rather than Cardiff).

[RedWillie]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8446264.Police_seek_witnesses_________after_violence_on_train/

 

looks like we are unpopular again.

[angelman]

not sure that it makes out that Saints are unpopular but maybe it just reinforces the stereotypical image of the typical football fan that the papers like to portray as seemingly it is good for their readership figures. If someone asks you to stop swearing you tell him to **** off rather than beating him up.

[moonraker]

So it is believed they are Saints supporters but not known if they attended the match! Lazy journalism, or are all perpetrators of violence to be associated with a football team as in “a man was left with serious injuries following a road rage incident, the attacker is a supporter of Gasworks Rovers, although it is not known when he last attended a game”. I can in no way condone these actions but I get really annoyed when journo’s take cheap shots at football supporters

[moonraker]

If someone asks you to stop swearing then you should shut the f**k up!

[Nadia Sllim]

Echo like the trains are late again! Train timetables or the Echo take your pick?

[Hatch]

So it is believed they are Saints supporters but not known if they attended the match! Lazy journalism, or are all perpetrators of violence to be associated with a football team as in “a man was left with serious injuries following a road rage incident, the attacker is a supporter of Gasworks Rovers, although it is not known when he last attended a game”. I can in no way condone these actions but I get really annoyed when journo’s take cheap shots at football supporters

 

Exactly, relating it to Southampton FC is pathetic.

 

It doesn't mention that both attackers were wearing Adidas trainers,

the CEO of Adidas replied 'no comment, are you actually mental ' when the Echo called him for the companies viewpoint.

[Gingeletiss]

not sure that it makes out that Saints are unpopular but maybe it just reinforces the stereotypical image of the typical football fan that the papers like to portray as seemingly it is good for their readership figures. If someone asks you to stop swearing you tell him to **** off rather than beating him up.

 

Guess you identify more with the attackers, rather than the victim! Sad, but the yoof of today have no respect for others, and swearing in front of other people, bought up not to, is just another indicator of our seemingly lowlife society today!

 

IMO

[angelman]

Sorry Ginge, your guess is wrong. It was firmly tongue in cheek telling him to F'off. But I was trying to point out if you don't like being told off, that hitting someone is not the way forward.

[Gingeletiss]

Sorry Ginge, your guess is wrong. It was firmly tongue in cheek telling him to F'off. But I was trying to point out if you don't like being told off, that hitting someone is not the way forward.

 

Apoligies then, it was the way I read your original post.

 

Sorry again.

[Big John]

i was in a pub in southampton for lunch yesterday and the converstaions nearby were punctuated with f's and c's. i actually found it amusing and an interesting insight to the underbelly of that particular pub's clientelle. i would not have dreamed of asking them to tame their language as it was their pub and to be honest i am of the opinion that people in general do not necesarily give offence, rather people take offence. Their are of course exceptions, as in this case (allegedly).

 

I was once out with my mother and a fight broke out in the garden right outside the window that we were sat by. it moved into the pub and one lad wielded a pool cue.

 

My mum began to cry!

 

I do not remember much about the next bit apart from me walking over to them looked this guy in the eye and quietly explained that they they were scaring my mother and would they please stop it and leave. They both said sorry to me.

 

One left and the other started to phone his mates to 'get down here, it's kicking off' or something along those lines. Mum was still crying when we left and when I saw the group at the entrance to the car park I feared the worst, although if I am honest I would happily have run them over. To my surprise as I drove past them they shouted sorry again. Bless.

[dubai_phil]

Echo in dig at SFC again. Quelle surprise

[lumuah]

Why would two men "from Southampton and Romsey" end up on a train in Salisbury? All sounds a bit odd.

[Turkish]

this is nothing to do with football, why they feel the need to mention they are saints fans is ridiculous.

[Big John]

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true turkish, but sadly that element sells more papers. how often are other assaults discussed on here which do not involve (and I use the word loosely) saints?

 

the Lee Barnard is a case in point as that sort of thing has (or should not have) any bearing on the match that we pay to watch, but all of a sudden everyone is *****ing about it, maybe we are just as bad for clicking the links, i don't know.

[Turkish]

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Correct, it does sell more papers, but it is pathetic. An attempt to make it sound football related, even though it was miles away, commited by two blokes who they think are saints fans but not sure if they went to the game or not.

[Big John]

/\ i concur

 

they may be saints fans, they may have been to southampton, they may have watched the match, they may have been using their phones in a quiet carriage, they may have been swearing. none of these illegal (maybe the swearing bit), assault is the charge anything else is just filling column inches..

 

I bet the writer won;t be too pleased next time he wears his shirt out of town only to confronted as a hoolie by assocaition! Karma perhaps?

[Scudamore]

I wonder who Jack the Ripper supported...?

[Big John]

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The Blades

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

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The Blades

 

Nice! I take it no side currently have the nick name The Rapists/Disembowlers. Perhaps Stoke.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

i was in a pub in southampton for lunch yesterday and the converstaions nearby were punctuated with f's and c's. i actually found it amusing and an interesting insight to the underbelly of that particular pub's clientelle. i would not have dreamed of asking them to tame their language as it was their pub and to be honest i am of the opinion that people in general do not necesarily give offence, rather people take offence. Their are of course exceptions, as in this case (allegedly).

 

I was once out with my mother and a fight broke out in the garden right outside the window that we were sat by. it moved into the pub and one lad wielded a pool cue.

 

My mum began to cry!

 

I do not remember much about the next bit apart from me walking over to them looked this guy in the eye and quietly explained that they they were scaring my mother and would they please stop it and leave. They both said sorry to me.

 

One left and the other started to phone his mates to 'get down here, it's kicking off' or something along those lines. Mum was still crying when we left and when I saw the group at the entrance to the car park I feared the worst, although if I am honest I would happily have run them over. To my surprise as I drove past them they shouted sorry again. Bless.

 

 

Would they have done if you were little John?

[Minsk]

Would they have done if you were little John?

 

Well........ in every version of Robin Hood I have ever seen Little John is huge, and hard as nails, so maybe they would have.

[ericofarabia]

I think it should be mandatory that a part of the arresting officers spiel should end with ".... and what football team do you support" just for the benefit of The Echo.

[Turkish]

I think it should be mandatory that a part of the arresting officers spiel should end with ".... and what football team do you support" just for the benefit of The Echo.

 

As we all know, any football related offences carry a higher sentance, given throwing a coin on a firday night warrant a fine, yet outside a football stadium gets you a year in the clink, what would happen if you are caught speeding on the way to a football match? Football related speeding should proportionally carry 12 months inside. Shoplifting from the club shop or football gear from any sports shop would warrant the same and football related fraud, maybe something like pretending to be a fan of another club or wearing the shirt of a club you dont support or nation you dont come from, would probably warrant death by firing squad.

[Big John]

i'd like to see prisoners made to wear their team's shirt inside. i am of course assuming that every criminal is a football fan otherwise they would have a good case for a miscarriage of justice.

 

anyway, any truth in the rumour that the victim is a disabled chap? i mean proper disabled of course, then again what are they doing on a train if they're proper disabled?

[Danny]

Actually, the reason it they are identified as Saints fans is because it helps with the police appeal for witnesses.

 

By saying the two people arrested are Saints fans, the police (as it is them who are saying it was SFC supporters) are asking people who were on train if they remember Saints fans on the train doing anything that may be related to the assault. All the information in the story came direct from the police, as part of their investigation.

 

The Echo actually sells more copies when it is full of "nice" stories about Saints and/or SFC fans, so it's not in the interest of the paper to want to print stories that **** people off just for the hell of it (not to mention possible legal implications of throwing in irrelevant information into police appeals, just for the sake of some supposed vendetta).

[MarkSFC]

Whether they had been to football earlier is irrelavent. Trying to pass this (alledged) offence off as football related is wrong. Even if the incident was between two saints fan and one tranmere fan it's not "football violence".

 

Under the suggested logic in the article " anyone who's been to the game" and on the same night (or early Sunday morning) who chooses to get into a fight will be deemed to have their offence rated as football related. Doesn't make sense does it?!!!

 

Violence that ensues in a ground or within a certain distance of the ground AND within a certain time of the game should be the definition of "football related".

 

Equally "organised" fights between the moronic "yoof" and others should only be regarded as "football related" if their is definitive proof...i.e. Email, phone calls etc etc!!

[Viking Warrior]

As we all know, any football related offences carry a higher sentance

 

So does that mean that should Lee Barnards case goes to court and he has found guilty for what ever he has meant to have done he will get a higher sentence as he is a football based on the above adage?

[Rut]

I was actually on this train.

 

This bloke got on at Southampton and was wearing a black shirt, black shorts, black socks and had a whistle in his mouth. I thought to myself then 'something is going to kick-off here'.

 

I was right.

[mcjwills]

I quite admire Barcelona, so the next time I get arrested for any trivial offence I'll make sure the Rozzers know I a Barcelona supporter so It get into the Echo that Barcelona supporters are on the rampage in Hampshire.

[ericofarabia]

I was actually on this train.

 

This bloke got on at Southampton and was wearing a black shirt, black shorts, black socks and had a whistle in his mouth. I thought to myself then 'something is going to kick-off here'.

 

I was right.

 

Boom Tish

[RonManager]

I was actually on this train.

 

This bloke got on at Southampton and was wearing a black shirt, black shorts, black socks and had a whistle in his mouth. I thought to myself then 'something is going to kick-off here'.

 

I was right.