marc_saint Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Seems to be the same as the Shrewsbury game. http://www.ctfc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10434~2213274,00.html? Cheltenham Town's FA Cup sponsored by E.ON second round match away to Southampton will take place at the St Mary's Stadium on Saturday 27 November at 3pm. Tickets will be available in advance priced at £15 for adults, £10 concessions and £5 for under-16s. These are the same prices employed by Southampton for their FA Cup first round match at home to Shrewsbury Town last Saturday. Tickets purchased on the day of the match will be £17 adults, £12 concessions and £7 under-16s. Cheltenham Town will be sent an initial allocation of 1,200 tickets to sell in advance, although the visitors section at the St Mary's Stadium holds over 3,000 so there will be no problem satisfying demand. Due to the large number of tickets available there will be no priority ticket policy in place for this match. We expect to receive the tickets from Southampton towards the end of the week and details of sales times will be provided on http://www.ctfc.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourno Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Happy with that ;.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Fair price. Unfortunately no ticket rivalry this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Seems to be the same as the Shrewsbury game. I rocked up on the day vs Shrews and paid £15, not £17 and not £15 "plus tax" so either the Cheltenham arrangement is different in this one respect or there's a slight detail mismatch here. Shame - I was assuming on avoiding the "tax" by buying on the day again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Nothing on the OS yet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 9 November, 2010 Author Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Nothing on the OS yet..... It is now.... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2213922,00.html? And there is a £2 surcharge for tickets bought on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 *uck em! £17, way too much. Can't be bothered for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 And I still can't sit in the 'best' stand as it's shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 And I still can't sit in the 'best' stand as it's shut. Rank stupidity. And why the £2 fine if you buy on matchday? What are they afraid of, that a big crowd might turn up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Rank stupidity. And why the £2 fine if you buy on matchday? What are they afraid of, that a big crowd might turn up? No they are just trying to get people to buy in advance and this is the carrot. They are trying to avoid the stupid long queues before the game. I am not bothered about the extra £2, and it is for supporters like me why they do it. Should be £5 for this game if you ask me. Well if they want a big crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 Twenty quid for an enjoyable afternoon out with my son? Well worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Nick Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 No they are just trying to get people to buy in advance and this is the carrot. They are trying to avoid the stupid long queues before the game. I am not bothered about the extra £2, and it is for supporters like me why they do it. But it costs an extra £3 if you buy in advance, unless you join a stupid long queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 November, 2010 Share Posted 9 November, 2010 No they are just trying to get people to buy in advance and this is the carrot. They are trying to avoid the stupid long queues before the game. I am not bothered about the extra £2, and it is for supporters like me why they do it. Should be £5 for this game if you ask me. Well if they want a big crowd. FA Cup rules state a minimum of £10. Charging extra on the day will not encourage people to buy in advance. Many don't know until the day if they can go. If you want to reduce the queues then speed up the selling process, by having cash only counters perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 Surely if they were to open up the Kingsland, i expect there would be many more fans who sit there who would probably attend. You are not expecting any trouble from this sort of game, so paying for a few extra stewards, bar staff etc. would be offset by these fans. If you are looking at such staff being paid about £10 an hour (may be wrong) for each 5 hours of them being there would be £50, 4 extra fans would be paying for them individualy, so say you needed 30 or so extra staff you would only need 40 fans paying £15 to pay for it. 30 staff x £50= £1500. 100 fans x 15 = £1500. I am sure you would get more than 100 fans in the Kingsland! People may wish to be seated nearer the half way line, which can not be achieved by only opening up one side. Late at night so my maths may be completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 Surely if they were to open up the Kingsland, i expect there would be many more fans who sit there who would probably attend. You are not expecting any trouble from this sort of game, so paying for a few extra stewards, bar staff etc. would be offset by these fans. If you are looking at such staff being paid about £10 an hour (may be wrong) for each 5 hours of them being there would be £50, 4 extra fans would be paying for them individualy, so say you needed 30 or so extra staff you would only need 40 fans paying £15 to pay for it. 30 staff x £50= £1500. 100 fans x 15 = £1500. I am sure you would get more than 100 fans in the Kingsland! People may wish to be seated nearer the half way line, which can not be achieved by only opening up one side. Late at night so my maths may be completely wrong. I agree with you completely and I have been arguing this every time that we have an early round cup game. The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 I agree with you completely and I have been arguing this every time that we have an early round cup game. The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game. Or a superior one, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 I'm a Kingsland ST holder. No problem moving, just object to paying a £3 ticket tax. The Cheltenham fans don't have to pay it. The FA should look into this. It's a sneaky way of getting round paying half of the income to the away side. That's assuming ticket sales admin costs are not usually taken into account before the revenue is split between the sides (and the FA of coruse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 I agree with you completely and I have been arguing this every time that we have an early round cup game. The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game. Agree ...although view is good anywhere in St Mary's. I wonder to what extent closing the Kingsland is self-fulfilling prophecy. It sends the signal that the club expect a small crowd, with a pretty crap atmosphere. Add to that the fact that the kingsland must have more ST holders than any other stand, so it is the most 'stable' fans that are being displaced, and it does not seem sensible marketing to me. Most kingsland fans sit near the same group of people each match ..people they only know from matches, people they get used to exchanging banter and opinions with, but not friends as such that could all arrange to buy cup tickets together. It does affect the match experience. Does it really cost very much to open up the stand?..genuine question.. anyone know how many extra tickets would need to be bought to pay for the costs of the stand being open? Are Hedgehog's sums right? (I suspect there are more cost than he lists.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 Agree ...although view is good anywhere in St Mary's. I wonder to what extent closing the Kingsland is self-fulfilling prophecy. It sends the signal that the club expect a small crowd, with a pretty crap atmosphere. Add to that the fact that the kingsland must have more ST holders than any other stand, so it is the most 'stable' fans that are being displaced, and it does not seem sensible marketing to me. Most kingsland fans sit near the same group of people each match ..people they only know from matches, people they get used to exchanging banter and opinions with, but not friends as such that could all arrange to buy cup tickets together. It does affect the match experience. Does it really cost very much to open up the stand?..genuine question.. anyone know how many extra tickets would need to be bought to pay for the costs of the stand being open? Are Hedgehog's sums right? (I suspect there are more cost than he lists.) Indeed, this is exactly what I have always argued. Saying 'we only expect a small crowd so we're closing over half the stadium' is the same as saying 'don't bother coming'. When I emailed David luker about this last season he said that the Kingsland was a 'large stand and expensive to open'. I also disagree about the views. Last Saturday I was sitting in row M at the Chapel end of the Itchen and my view was facing along the advertising boards behind the goal. I couldn't see a thing for the first half. Every time that there was any action the people to my right stood up to see what was happening, which only made things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 Just bought my ticket for this. Chose itcen block 7 and it chose my exact ST seat. Was this because the system knows that is my usual seat or just pure luck?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 Just bought my ticket for this. Chose itcen block 7 and it chose my exact ST seat. Was this because the system knows that is my usual seat or just pure luck?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 November, 2010 Share Posted 10 November, 2010 I agree with you completely and I have been arguing this every time that we have an early round cup game. The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game. why inferior? THey will probably be able to get exactly the same view. I actually like moving seats for cup games for change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 November, 2010 Share Posted 11 November, 2010 why inferior? THey will probably be able to get exactly the same view. I actually like moving seats for cup games for change. Because there are a lot more seats available in the central Kingsland than there are in the central Itchen and what are available there are snapped up quickly. The seat I had for Shrewsbury was abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 Anyone seen any info on the curry club for this game ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 As others have said, there ARE bad views at SMS. Anything such as block 3 which looks across at the side of the goal offers a crap view. People like me who have seats slap bang on the halfway line in the Kingsland dont want to have to be displaced when these cup games come round. We've paid more for our season tickets than people in the wings / ends and then we can't even buy our own seats for cup games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Nick Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 why inferior? THey will probably be able to get exactly the same view. Are they selling tickets to the directors' box for £15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 heh, sounds like you and I probably sit pretty near each other in the Kingsland then from that comment. Definitiely the best seats in 'the house'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 heh, sounds like you and I probably sit pretty near each other in the Kingsland then from that comment. Definitiely the best seats in 'the house'. Depends what you define as best I suppose. If "best" is sitting down in silence i'm sure you have a whale of a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 why inferior? THey will probably be able to get exactly the same view. I actually like moving seats for cup games for change. My season ticket is in the Kingsland, the equivalent seat in the Itchen is in the directors box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 My season ticket is in the Kingsland, the equivalent seat in the Itchen is in the directors box. Likewise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 I agree with you completely and I have been arguing this every time that we have an early round cup game. The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game. Anyone who thinks like that isn't really a Saints fan to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 As others have said, there ARE bad views at SMS. Anything such as block 3 which looks across at the side of the goal offers a crap view. People like me who have seats slap bang on the halfway line in the Kingsland dont want to have to be displaced when these cup games come round. We've paid more for our season tickets than people in the wings / ends and then we can't even buy our own seats for cup games. There are no "bad" views at St Marys, yes some are better than others, but none of seats offer anything like what could be considered a bad view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 Was told today when I bought some tickets that the whole stadium was available! I have no reason to disbelieve the girl in the TO as I chose some in The Chapel so, assuming that the Kingsland is also open expect a few miffed fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 There are no "bad" views at St Marys, yes some are better than others, but none of seats offer anything like what could be considered a bad view. You'd struggle to have a decent view of what was going on from row A in one of the corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 You'd struggle to have a decent view of what was going on from row A in one of the corners. I don't think so, I've sat there and the views been ok, even if they were classed as a "bad" view, you're looking at a handful of seats in a 32k capacity stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 There are no "bad" views at St Marys, yes some are better than others, but none of seats offer anything like what could be considered a bad view. Oh yes there are! The seat I had for Shrewsbury was worse than the away seats at Ipswich, Highbury, even Bristol Rovers. I was looking straight along the advertising hoarding behind the Chapel goal. I was getting a bad neck from twisting to the right and my view was blocked by everybody else standing up to try to see what was happening. I couldn't see a thing for the whole of the first half, so I moved up to the back of the Chapel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 Anyone who thinks like that isn't really a Saints fan to be honest. What? They have paid out season after season through thin and thin and you say that they aren't Saints fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 What? They have paid out season after season through thin and thin and you say that they aren't Saints fans? Yep, that's pretty much what I'm saying, I think that's clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 November, 2010 Share Posted 15 November, 2010 Yep, that's pretty much what I'm saying, I think that's clear. So, a Saints fan is someone who has to put up with poor service come what may? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 16 November, 2010 Share Posted 16 November, 2010 So, a Saints fan is someone who has to put up with poor service come what may? What poor service? 90% of Saints fan seem happy enough watching Saints from seats that aren't considered the "best seats in the house", what exactly is so special about these people? Anyone who takes the attitude of "The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game" aren't really Saints fans in my opinion. Probably no coincidence that this is also the quietest part of the ground either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 What poor service? 90% of Saints fan seem happy enough watching Saints from seats that aren't considered the "best seats in the house", what exactly is so special about these people? Anyone who takes the attitude of "The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game" aren't really Saints fans in my opinion. Probably no coincidence that this is also the quietest part of the ground either. I really can't be bothered to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 Aren't really Saints fans in my opinion. Probably no coincidence that this is also the quietest part of the ground either. Why does noise level determine how "good" a fan is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 Why does noise level determine how "good" a fan is? Well, its a different debate than the one on this thread and I know a lot of good Saints fans that do just sit there quietly, but yes as a general rule, I've got a lot more time for fans that make an effort to actually get behind the side, rather than just sitting there half asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 Well, its a different debate than the one on this thread and I know a lot of good Saints fans that do just sit there quietly, but yes as a general rule, I've got a lot more time for fans that make an effort to actually get behind the side, rather than just sitting there half asleep. Including 'little old ladies' who struggle to the ground on two walking sticks and go to every away game home and away and who love their football, especially the Saints? Are they any less fans because of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 I really can't be bothered to argue. Stop being so difficult, you know what Sour Mash is trying to say. Unless I'm mistaken, he's saying that a Saints fan won't really care where he/she has to sit, as long as they get to the game. So for someone to say "well I'm not going if I can't sit in the Kingsland" suggests they don't care too much. Nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 Including 'little old ladies' who struggle to the ground on two walking sticks and go to every away game home and away and who love their football, especially the Saints? Are they any less fans because of it? If you can be bothered to read, you will see I stated "I know a lot of good Saints fans that do just sit there quietly, but yes as a general rule...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 If you can be bothered to read, you will see I stated "I know a lot of good Saints fans that do just sit there quietly, but yes as a general rule...." Of course I read your post, that is only natural courtesy. Let's both agree that the kingsland will have a larger proportion of this type of supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 Stop being so difficult, you know what Sour Mash is trying to say. Unless I'm mistaken, he's saying that a Saints fan won't really care where he/she has to sit, as long as they get to the game. So for someone to say "well I'm not going if I can't sit in the Kingsland" suggests they don't care too much. Nothing more, nothing less. I am being taken to task for explaining why so many long-term season ticket holders do not come to early cup games. The supporters in the Kingsland expect to have a good view of the game and that is certainly not true in the corners. The crowd figures speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 What poor service? 90% of Saints fan seem happy enough watching Saints from seats that aren't considered the "best seats in the house", what exactly is so special about these people? Anyone who takes the attitude of "The Kingsland has a high proportion of long-term ST holders and the majority of them are not interested unless they can sit in or near their usual seats. They will not accept an inferior view of the game" aren't really Saints fans in my opinion. Probably no coincidence that this is also the quietest part of the ground either. Would these be the same 12,000 odd seats that are empty at most home games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 November, 2010 Share Posted 17 November, 2010 Would these be the same 12,000 odd seats that are empty at most home games? No, these are the 20,000 odd seats that are happily filled by normal Saints fan on a regular basis. I do laugh at this elite group of people that will only be happy watching Saints if they have these seats to sit in when tens of thousands of Saints fans have been turning up and getting behind the side while sat all over the ground. I think I'm being polite when I call this a bit "strange". What a bunch of mugs the rest of us have been all these years, doing ridiculous things like sitting in block 5 of the Itchen to watch a game, how have we ever been able to enjoy the match I don't know..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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