NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Saints 33 Brighton 33 Charlton 27 Cherries 25 Huddersfield 25 Sheff W 23 Peterborough 22 all played 15, except Brighton and Huddersfield who have played 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 in summary - before he came in - worst points record in division, since -the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 he is top drawer really.....lucky to have him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 everything I have seen has made me believe real chance of automatic at least - not sure why others were even doubting play offs. Would have to really drop off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 The problem is some posters / fans think we should win EVERY game whether home or away and cannot accept that there is nothing wrong with a short lapse of form here and there when injuries / suspensions occur. Now we have everyone available and fit to choose from our form has returned to normal and 2 pts per game should be the target. That will secure 1st or 2nd spot, particularly this season where the division is so tight after some of the biggest teams went up last year and the other big clubs have financial issues. Sheff Wed are potentially a threat if Mandaric splashes the cash but I cannot see any other teams that can reasonably strengthen their sides and gain momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 eddie howe linked to Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 points per game Saints 2.2 Brighton 2.06 Charlton 1.8 Cherries 1.66 Huddersfield 1.56 Sheff W 1.53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Makes for great reading doesn't it! Cheers for the stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 he is top drawer really.....lucky to have him Careful not to make a judgement too soon. We all know how your Jan judgement turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 points per game Saints 2.2 Brighton 2.06 Charlton 1.8 Cherries 1.66 Huddersfield 1.56 Sheff W 1.53 Crikey, that is a huge difference if that was to continue. Shows how tight and competitive this division is really and that Saints form has been quality by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Charlton's will be worse now! Brighton maybe hard to catch, but no reason why we can't start pulling away from the others at current rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Saints 33 Brighton 33 Charlton 27 Cherries 25 Huddersfield 25 Sheff W 23 Peterborough 22 all played 15, except Brighton and Huddersfield who have played 16. Nick, whilst I agree with your sentiments we have played 17 games, 10 at home and 7 away, and lost 4 times under NA - MK Dons, Huddersfield and Carlisle away plus Brentford home. Therefore let's not get carried away Brentford springs to mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Nick, whilst I agree with your sentiments we have played 17 games, 10 at home and 7 away, and lost 4 times under NA - MK Dons, Huddersfield and Carlisle away plus Brentford home. Therefore let's not get carried away Brentford springs to mind! why do saints fans have to be so defeatist.. fuk it, lets get carried away...it has been 25 years or so since we have sat 2nd in the league after half a season..we have a real chance of winning the league.. not even last season...giving back the 10 points were we ever this close.....and that was a roaring success to most.. I am fuking delighted and the team seem to be getting better.. we all know we will lose again...we will probably lose at home again, football tends to throw them results at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Think I did it from the table from the weekend before the next round of fixtures - which you are right would have missed out the MK game. To be fair to Adkins he had only just walked in the door (although I would have said that was irrelevant if we had won ) The same for all teams though - last 15 games -almost exaclty a third of the season - we have been the best side in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 why do saints fans have to be so defeatist.. fuk it, lets get carried away...it has been 25 years or so since we have sat 2nd in the league after half a season..we have a real chance of winning the league.. not even last season...giving back the 10 points were we ever this close.....and that was a roaring success to most.. I am fuking delighted and the team seem to be getting better.. we all know we will lose again...we will probably lose at home again, football tends to throw them results at you I said that I agree with Nick's sentiments so was not being defeatist. I just think that there is a long way to go. I think the sequence of games between Feb 1 and March 5 will be critical when we play 6 out of 8 away!! If we come through that then I will really start believing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 fair enough.. im dreading the wrist slitters when we drop out of 2nd place...which im sure will happen at some point between now and the run in till the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 (edited) in summary - before he came in - worst points record in division, since -the best. This is factually rubbish - total and utter rubbish. After THREE games we had four points and sat 15th EIGHT teams below us had played FOUR games and had amassed fewer points... If you imagine we had won our game in hand we would have been sat SIXTH in the table when Pardew was fired. We know how much you adore Adkins Nick, but please be honest. Some people on here don't bother to check what you claim... EDIT: I have now checked when Adkins was appointed and at that point (after Wilkins disastrous run) Leyton Orient, Hartlepool, Tranmere and Brentford had worse points records, but I suspect you were trying to con people into believing Adkins had to rescue us from Pardew... Edited 3 January, 2011 by Legod Third Coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 This is factually rubbish - total and utter rubbish. After THREE games we had four points and sat 15th EIGHT teams below us had played FOUR games and had amassed fewer points... If you imagine we had won our game in hand we would have been sat SIXTH in the table when Pardew was fired. We know how much you adore Adkins Nick, but please be honest. Some people on here don't bother to check what you claim... EDIT: I have now checked when Adkins was appointed and at that point (after Wilkins disastrous run) Leyton Orient, Hartlepool, Tranmere and Brentford had worse points records, but I suspect you were trying to con people into believing Adkins had to rescue us from Pardew... Sorry what a total overreaction! Adkins has done well the results prove it get over it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 This is factually rubbish - total and utter rubbish. After THREE games we had four points and sat 15th EIGHT teams below us had played FOUR games and had amassed fewer points... If you imagine we had won our game in hand we would have been sat SIXTH in the table when Pardew was fired. We know how much you adore Adkins Nick, but please be honest. Some people on here don't bother to check what you claim... EDIT: I have now checked when Adkins was appointed and at that point (after Wilkins disastrous run) Leyton Orient, Hartlepool, Tranmere and Brentford had worse points records, but I suspect you were trying to con people into believing Adkins had to rescue us from Pardew... at the end of the day..he has taken us from 22nd...to 2nd in 15 matches...that would be an achievement by any manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Turning out to be a great manager, but will be judged on getting us out the league. I really do not think he will get another crack of the whip if we do not go up. As I have said all along apart from my crisis at the start of December, we will go up as Champions!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 This is factually rubbish - total and utter rubbish. After THREE games we had four points and sat 15th EIGHT teams below us had played FOUR games and had amassed fewer points... If you imagine we had won our game in hand we would have been sat SIXTH in the table when Pardew was fired. We know how much you adore Adkins Nick, but please be honest. Some people on here don't bother to check what you claim... EDIT: I have now checked when Adkins was appointed and at that point (after Wilkins disastrous run) Leyton Orient, Hartlepool, Tranmere and Brentford had worse points records, but I suspect you were trying to con people into believing Adkins had to rescue us from Pardew... This is factually rubbish. Adkins didn't come in after THREE games. lol. Have a look here, will accept yor apology if genuine. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/LeagueTable/0,,10280~20100915,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Just to be clear for le god third.. After 6 games we had 4 points. I have been open above about period using for the comparison. No team in the whole league had less points than 4 ( 2 others also had 4). Since then we have the best record. I do rate Adkins as he has taken a team who were gaining points at the lowest rate to the one consistently gaining them at the highest rate. You seem to have forgotten that Adkins didn't come straight after Pardew as well. More than happy for these facts to be checked - I do make mistakes - as you clearly do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Adkins Rocks And Lallana is God I'm off to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 January, 2011 Share Posted 3 January, 2011 Nick, do your stats include the MK Dons game? Harsh to include that I feel, even though he was technically in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 (edited) If you look at the form tables for home and away games, Saints are TOP for the last 10 games, last 12 games, last 14 games. Our away form is better than our home form (for those concerned that we have more away games ahead than home games). http://weekendfootball.co.uk/statistics/form.asp Edited 4 January, 2011 by Hamilton Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 The problem is some posters / fans think we should win EVERY game whether home or away and cannot accept that there is nothing wrong with a short lapse of form here and there when injuries / suspensions occur. Now we have everyone available and fit to choose from our form has returned to normal and 2 pts per game should be the target. That will secure 1st or 2nd spot, particularly this season where the division is so tight after some of the biggest teams went up last year and the other big clubs have financial issues. Sheff Wed are potentially a threat if Mandaric splashes the cash but I cannot see any other teams that can reasonably strengthen their sides and gain momentum. Highly sensible post. Suggest you put this out about 3 times a week for the next season or two, until everyone understands ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 If you look at the form tables for home and away games, Saints are TOP for the last 10 games, last 12 games, last 14 games. Our away form is better than our home form (for those concerned that we have more away games ahead than home games). http://weekendfootball.co.uk/statistics/form.asp yes good because 4 of the top 5 (except Saints) are teams BELOW midtable who are finding a bit of form in the bad winter. Our other promotion rivals have loss ground badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Nick, do your stats include the MK Dons game? Harsh to include that I feel, even though he was technically in charge. no, did it from the first weekend game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Just to be clear for le god third.. After 6 games we had 4 points. I have been open above about period using for the comparison. No team in the whole league had less points than 4 ( 2 others also had 4). Since then we have the best record. I do rate Adkins as he has taken a team who were gaining points at the lowest rate to the one consistently gaining them at the highest rate. You seem to have forgotten that Adkins didn't come straight after Pardew as well. More than happy for these facts to be checked - I do make mistakes - as you clearly do as well. Yes, Nick, my bad - I had forgotten the Wilkins fiasco....!!! However, the constant theme that Pardew had rendered our season hopeless and Adkins saved us really bugs me - hence my overreaction (not aimed at you personally by any stretch). I am happy to let it go because I genuinely have nothing against Adkins and he's doing a cracking job. But he only had to turn our season around because of the decision to sack Pardew. Until then (winning that game in hand) we would have been sixth... He didn't turn it around from Pardew, that was my point. Pardew was a good manager, did good things for us, genuinely turned us from a losing side to a winning one and he should be credited for that. That's all. Adkins is doing a great job, soon to be a better job than Pardew I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Watch Out! Whilst we are all looking at Lallana, Chamberlain and Shneiderlin hoping they won't get snatched, just watch out for some bugger to come in and nip Adkins from under our noses whilst we're not looking. Maybe it's him the Scousers have been scouting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Pardew was a good manager, did good things for us, genuinely turned us from a losing side to a winning one and he should be credited for that. That's all. Adkins is doing a great job, soon to be a better job than Pardew I'm sure. We should not forget that this is Pardew's team, they may well play better under Adkins but it was Pardew that signed them all. Thanks Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 4 January, 2011 Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Yes, Nick, my bad - I had forgotten the Wilkins fiasco....!!! However, the constant theme that Pardew had rendered our season hopeless and Adkins saved us really bugs me - hence my overreaction (not aimed at you personally by any stretch). I am happy to let it go because I genuinely have nothing against Adkins and he's doing a cracking job. But he only had to turn our season around because of the decision to sack Pardew. Until then (winning that game in hand) we would have been sixth... He didn't turn it around from Pardew, that was my point. Pardew was a good manager, did good things for us, genuinely turned us from a losing side to a winning one and he should be credited for that. That's all. Adkins is doing a great job, soon to be a better job than Pardew I'm sure. Given this team at the present, I would expect Pardew to be getting similar results. Pardew was sacked because of the damage he did to the squad, something that would cost him and anyone following him points for a long while to come. When Pardew was good, he was very good and we were in total control, the trouble was the inconsistency. I prefer Adkins, not yet got the total control of Pardews good days (Huddersfield(H), Leeds(H) and Norwich(A)), but more consistent. I can understand the logic of being better off if Pardew had stayed (eliminatinging the Wilkins tenure), but he screwed up big time and deserved the boot. Unavoidable after the publicised rumpus from the season previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2011 Yes, Nick, my bad - I had forgotten the Wilkins fiasco....!!! However, the constant theme that Pardew had rendered our season hopeless and Adkins saved us really bugs me - hence my overreaction (not aimed at you personally by any stretch). I am happy to let it go because I genuinely have nothing against Adkins and he's doing a cracking job. But he only had to turn our season around because of the decision to sack Pardew. Until then (winning that game in hand) we would have been sixth... He didn't turn it around from Pardew, that was my point. Pardew was a good manager, did good things for us, genuinely turned us from a losing side to a winning one and he should be credited for that. That's all. Adkins is doing a great job, soon to be a better job than Pardew I'm sure. no harm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Interesting to see we have only gained two points on Brighton though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Interesting to see we have only gained two points on Brighton though. I thought they were ten ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Faz Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Given this team at the present, I would expect Pardew to be getting similar results. Pardew was sacked because of the damage he did to the squad, something that would cost him and anyone following him points for a long while to come. When Pardew was good, he was very good and we were in total control, the trouble was the inconsistency. I prefer Adkins, not yet got the total control of Pardews good days (Huddersfield(H), Leeds(H) and Norwich(A)), but more consistent. I think this is fair - Adkins results have been very good - the home performances not as convincing as under Pardew last season. It seems in last few ganes we have that spark back - long may it continue, as when we play like that we are the best team in this division, and its great to watch. I want it all, i want us to win convincingly, play attractive football and win this league. It seems Adkins is now on target to to all of that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Whilst the stats indeed make impressive reading, lets not forget that we have probably played a bigger proportion of our home games than everyone else. The time to get carried away is April. We've only just reached the half-point of the season, FFS. Plenty of hard work still to be done. That's why Adkins is right to look to strengthen the team. To say this squad is strong enough is b*ll*cks, I am afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Still few games away from half way - FFS. Means even more time to put the poor start behind us and continue on this run, hopefully pulling away from the play off contenders and maybe catching Brighton. Should always look to strengthen - Adkins must do that, also ready for next season hopefully! These stats show that to say this squad should not get promotion is boll+cks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Still few games away from half way - FFS. Means even more time to put the poor start behind us and continue on this run, hopefully pulling away from the play off contenders and maybe catching Brighton. Should always look to strengthen - Adkins must do that, also ready for next season hopefully! These stats show that to say this squad should not get promotion is boll+cks. I would always strengthen if you can afford to. Certainly if you can buy better players than those you have, why wouldn't you?? So long as it doesn't upset the balance and momentum of the side. But I agree with you here Nick 100%. This squad is the best in the league by about £5m. If it gets better great. But it is easily good enough at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 Watch Out! Whilst we are all looking at Lallana, Chamberlain and Shneiderlin hoping they won't get snatched, just watch out for some bugger to come in and nip Adkins from under our noses whilst we're not looking. Maybe it's him the Scousers have been scouting? stop worrying...gone are the days of money grabbing idiots in our board room who see a fast buck before the long term success and sustainabilty of our club. If earn £40k a year and your house has yeilded you a "selling" profit of £40k you might think thats a great deal I'll sell. BUT...can you get a similar house without spending the £40K....very unlikely. So you either spend the money on another similar house (no point! and loose fees!) or you downgrade and keep the profit...praying that the market improves or you can cheaply improve your new "lesser" house to make some more "sell-on" profit. OR Your house is rising in value every day but in the bank you actually have enough money to buy ANY house you want. BUT you are very happy with current house and can see yourself living there for a very long time assuming of course that it doesnt burn down or something very unlikely or unfortunate like that. No....despite all the offers you are best off staying with what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 stop worrying...gone are the days of money grabbing idiots in our board room who see a fast buck before the long term success and sustainabilty of our club. If earn £40k a year and your house has yeilded you a "selling" profit of £40k you might think thats a great deal I'll sell. BUT...can you get a similar house without spending the £40K....very unlikely. So you either spend the money on another similar house (no point! and loose fees!) or you downgrade and keep the profit...praying that the market improves or you can cheaply improve your new "lesser" house to make some more "sell-on" profit. OR Your house is rising in value every day but in the bank you actually have enough money to buy ANY house you want. BUT you are very happy with current house and can see yourself living there for a very long time assuming of course that it doesnt burn down or something very unlikely or unfortunate like that. No....despite all the offers you are best off staying with what you have. My friend, the problem there is that your house does not inform you one evening that the road over the other side of town is more attractive, safer, quieter and therefore your house is off there thank you very much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 5 January, 2011 Share Posted 5 January, 2011 (edited) By what evidence is it ********, given our position despite all the upheaval and more to the point, the far poorer teams that have gained promotion year after year? I'm sure Millwall would have loved to strengthen but they had no money. They still made it up. Saem with S****horpe and others in previous years. We should strengthen because we can and it'll make it easier, but that doesn't equate to this squad not being strong enough. It clearly is. But no, you know the facts and everyone else talks ********. And once again, you've set yourself up perfectly. We fail and you can say we didn't strengthen, we didn't strengthen enough, we didn't strengthen the right areas. We succeed and you'll say see, told you we needed to strengthen and I was right. If we sign no-one and go up anyway, you can say it would have been easier if we'd strengthened. In fact, I could see you then saying 'we needed to strengthen early because now there won't be time to gel and hit the ground running in the Championship. To say this squad is strong enough for the championship is ********!' So I guess you're right. The stats show the squad ought to be strong enough. Stats tell you FACTS about the past, but indicate only PROBABILITY for the future. Isn't it the whole point that we want to make as sure as is reasonably possible that we do get promoted this season. We were a few injuries and a suspension down just a little while ago and almost everyone bemoaned the lack of depth. Strength in enough depth is what we need from now on. We've got into a great position, let's not let it slip. Does Ferguson sit there thinking "We're top of the league at Xmas. Job done?" He will always be looking to what he needs to continue to win, win, win, not patting himself on the back at last week's stats, however good they are. Edited 5 January, 2011 by hughieslastminutegoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2011 By what evidence is it ********, given our position despite all the upheaval and more to the point, the far poorer teams that have gained promotion year after year? I'm sure Millwall would have loved to strengthen but they had no money. They still made it up. Saem with S****horpe and others in previous years. We should strengthen because we can and it'll make it easier, but that doesn't equate to this squad not being strong enough. It clearly is. But no, you know the facts and everyone else talks ********. And once again, you've set yourself up perfectly. We fail and you can say we didn't strengthen, we didn't strengthen enough, we didn't strengthen the right areas. We succeed and you'll say see, told you we needed to strengthen and I was right. If we sign no-one and go up anyway, you can say it would have been easier if we'd strengthened. In fact, I could see you then saying 'we needed to strengthen early because now there won't be time to gel and hit the ground running in the Championship. To say this squad is strong enough for the championship is ********!' So I guess you're right. good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 January, 2011 The stats show the squad ought to be strong enough. Stats tell you FACTS about the past, but indicate only PROBABILITY for the future. Isn't it the whole point that we want to make as sure as is reasonably possible that we do get promoted this season. We were a few injuries and a suspension down just a little while ago and almost everyone bemoaned the lack of depth. Strength in enough depth is what we need from now on. We've got into a great position, let's not let it slip. Does Ferguson sit there thinking "We're top of the league at Xmas. Job done?" He will always be looking to what he needs to continue to win, win, win, not patting himself on the back at last week's stats, however good they are. don't think anybody suggesting Adkins should not be trying to improve current players every day, and improve the squad (balancing the team spirit etc) every window. Just that 1) We are performing well enough, if continued will earn automatic promotion 2) Already have strongest squad to cope with 2nd half of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2011 wonder what Pardew would have been like in 3rd round of FA cup this season...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 wonder what Pardew would have been like in 3rd round of FA cup this season...... Presumably you mean Newcastle 2 down at Stevenage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 ESPN commentators are baffled as to why newcastle are playing a lone striker and just hoofing the ball to him....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 ESPN commentators are baffled as to why newcastle are playing a lone striker and just hoofing the ball to him....... I know they won 5-0 the other day but did you see Best's first goal. Hoofed from back to front in 5 seconds. Total football it aint. Still they won 5-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 January, 2011 Share Posted 8 January, 2011 By what evidence is it ********, given our position despite all the upheaval and more to the point, the far poorer teams that have gained promotion year after year? I'm sure Millwall would have loved to strengthen but they had no money. They still made it up. Saem with S****horpe and others in previous years. We should strengthen because we can and it'll make it easier, but that doesn't equate to this squad not being strong enough. It clearly is. But no, you know the facts and everyone else talks ********. And once again, you've set yourself up perfectly. We fail and you can say we didn't strengthen, we didn't strengthen enough, we didn't strengthen the right areas. We succeed and you'll say see, told you we needed to strengthen and I was right. If we sign no-one and go up anyway, you can say it would have been easier if we'd strengthened. In fact, I could see you then saying 'we needed to strengthen early because now there won't be time to gel and hit the ground running in the Championship. To say this squad is strong enough for the championship is ********!' So I guess you're right. Bang on mate. It is a fact that every club in the world needs to strengthen, no manager will ever think he has the perfect squad and it cant be improved, if one does then he should be sacked for being so complacent. You are spot on with what you say though, if we dont go up he can say "i told you so" if we do he can say as you said "it would have been easier if we'd strengthed" So yes we do need to strengthen, like any club in the world, but our squad now is easily good enough for promotion. Anyone that knows anything about football can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 January, 2011 Author Share Posted 8 January, 2011 needing to constantly seek to improve your squad (which is correct ) is not the same as saying this squad is not good enough (which is talking boll@cks!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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