Griffo Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Quietened down in Eltham now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Thanks Dune, do you think black people are culturally more inclined to gangsta culture or is it a genetic thing? Also, if multi culturalism has failed then is there an alternative? Or indeed a solution? Hi Dune! Any chance of a response? I'm really struggling with this one and need some help. Ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 One of the looters charged today was a primary school teaching assistant. ****ing public sector teacher scum! I know, what a ****. Thankfully he won't work in school's ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The same thing I did at Leyton Orient dunce: tell them to shut the **** up! You forget I'm a former UAF activist, right-wing " 'ard nuts" don't put the ****ters up me. That's strange. I was at the game and I heard it there and commented on it on here. You didn't mention telling them to shut the f/ck up then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Hi Dune! Any chance of a response? I'm really struggling with this one and need some help. Ta! I'm sure you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 That's strange. I was at the game and I heard it there and commented on it on here. You didn't mention telling them to shut the f/ck up then. I'll be honest dunce, I didn't feel the need to publicise it. I'm ashamed that people feel the need to chant it in the first place. Anyway, this was two years ago when it was "BNP BNP BNP". Don't worry, when it happens again, I'll be sure to be on here in the first instant telling you of my 'bravery' - moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I know, what a ****. Thankfully he won't work in school's ever again. With teachers rioting and looting, organising offs at football matches, etc, is it any wonder why the kids of today act the way they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I'll be honest dunce, I didn't feel the need to publicise it. I'm ashamed that people feel the need to chant it in the first place. Anyway, this was two years ago when it was "BNP BNP BNP". Ah right... I believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Ah right... I believe you. Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I'll be honest dunce, I didn't feel the need to publicise it. I'm ashamed that people feel the need to chant it in the first place. Anyway, this was two years ago when it was "BNP BNP BNP". Was this outside the Salmon and Ball pub in Bethnal Green? I remember a few chants there but dont recall anyone telling them to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 ha ha, even nick griffin is twitting. http://twitter.com/#!/search/eltham I wouldve used a stronger phrase, but yes, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 (edited) You know what? Many on here deride Dune for his often right angled views, but reading many blogs and articles today, and seeing the sudden change in attitude and approach from the Police (stand-offishness to whacking the feckers), on this he is not far wrong. In some ways it is ironic that the policies of Blair on Immigration may well have backfired. Why? Because the recent "wave" of Immigration has been predominatly White Eastern European. They are brought up in an environment that expects hard work (in many cases) and has strong family values. A great many of them have filled low paid jobs, often at the bottom of the ladder, but many of them actually are well educated, or well skilled and many want to work hard and better themselves. So, the "Inner City" Racial Stereotypes in their hoodies & with their Gangsta "Want it All & I want it Now" culture suddenly find - bingo - jobs going to hard working but white Immigrants. Somehow, the Irony of the situation on the woolly luvvies has whooshed them by. Their darlings allowed 2 million new immigrants into the UK over their term and the "underpriviliged" classes find they can't get work. Sort of a Doh moment. bDllocks, these people don't want to work. blaming on immigration is misguided, just an excuse for a social underclass that has developed over decades through industrial decline, benefits dependency, feckless parenting, and the bling celebrity culture. Edited 10 August, 2011 by anothersaintinsouthsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 With teachers rioting and looting, organising offs at football matches, etc, is it any wonder why the kids of today act the way they do? Teaching assistant, not teacher. Please remember your role as a parent (hypothetically if you don't have children obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Was this outside the Salmon and Ball pub in Bethnal Green? I remember a few chants there but dont recall anyone telling them to shut up. No - I don't know what the park is called, the one with the big bugger of a fountain in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Thanks Dune, do you think black people are culturally more inclined to gangsta culture or is it a genetic thing? Also, if multi culturalism has failed then is there an alternative? Or indeed a solution? Hi Dune! Any chance of a response? I'm really struggling with this one and need some help. Ta! I'm sure you do. Thanks Dune! Any chance of an answer though? All the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 An army recruit amongst those appearing in court today, according to BBC news. Along with the teaching assistant and a university student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 One of the looters charged today was a primary school teaching assistant. ****ing public sector teacher scum! Oh but I thought they were all unemployed and lazy??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Thanks Dune! Any chance of an answer though? All the best! I'm sure his brain is currently malfunctioning in vain pursuit of an answer. Bare with him, he'll reboot sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I'm sure his brain is currently malfunctioning in vain pursuit of an answer. Bare with him, he'll reboot sooner or later. I'm just thinking back two years to Orient away and they were definitely chanting EDL and not BNP as you said. In fact if memory serves me correctly there was an EDL rally in london that very day. I remember posting about it and also you replying. Not that i'm thinking you concocted this story you understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 (edited) You know what? Many on here deride Dune for his often right angled views, but reading many blogs and articles today, and seeing the sudden change in attitude and approach from the Police (stand-offishness to whacking the feckers), on this he is not far wrong. In some ways it is ironic that the policies of Blair on Immigration may well have backfired. Why? Because the recent "wave" of Immigration has been predominatly White Eastern European. They are brought up in an environment that expects hard work (in many cases) and has strong family values. A great many of them have filled low paid jobs, often at the bottom of the ladder, but many of them actually are well educated, or well skilled and many want to work hard and better themselves. So, the "Inner City" Racial Stereotypes in their hoodies & with their Gangsta "Want it All & I want it Now" culture suddenly find - bingo - jobs going to hard working but white Immigrants. Somehow, the Irony of the situation on the woolly luvvies has whooshed them by. Their darlings allowed 2 million new immigrants into the UK over their term and the "underpriviliged" classes find they can't get work. Sort of a Doh moment. Don't know what you're trying to say - could say the same thing about the influx of hardworking filipino nurses who prop up the NHS or before that Indians or Chinese...Are you making an immigration point (and the last time I looked, most of the news is about whites feeling undercut by 'harder working' immigrants)? Or is it a race point? Edited 10 August, 2011 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 (edited) Don't know what you're trying to say - could say the same thing about the influx of hardworking filipinos nurses who prop up the NHS or before that Indians or Chinese...Are you making an immigration point (and the last time I looked, most of the news is about whites feeling undercut by 'harder working' immigrants)? Or is it a race point? .... Edited 10 August, 2011 by Verbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I'm just thinking back two years to Orient away and they were definitely chanting EDL and not BNP as you said. In fact if memory serves me correctly there was an EDL rally in london that very day. I remember posting about it and also you replying. Not that i'm thinking you concocted this story you understand. No I remember it was two years ago because I had come back from Majorca the previous day. The EDL rally was this year because I could hear a couple of these splendid people as I walked through Kings Cross. Look, you believe what you like. I know what I did, I'd do it again. Maybe it will be you I will be telling to 'shut the **** up' next time eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Maybe it will be you I will be telling to 'shut the **** up' next time eh? That's if you are not out looting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 No - I don't know what the park is called, the one with the big bugger of a fountain in it? Is this actually in Leyton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 No I remember it was two years ago because I had come back from Majorca the previous day. The EDL rally was this year because I could hear a couple of these splendid people as I walked through Kings Cross. Look, you believe what you like. I know what I did, I'd do it again. Maybe it will be you I will be telling to 'shut the **** up' next time eh? Did you tell them to shut the f*ck up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I'm just thinking back two years to Orient away and they were definitely chanting EDL and not BNP as you said. In fact if memory serves me correctly there was an EDL rally in london that very day. I remember posting about it and also you replying. Not that i'm thinking you concocted this story you understand. Why are you ignoring me? Please answer my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Is this actually in Leyton? Yeah, IIRC quite close to the ground. Last season it was jammed full of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Yeah, IIRC quite close to the ground. Last season it was jammed full of people. Yes i know where you mean. Went there both times we played them. The only EDL chanting i heard mentioned was outside the Salmon and Ball pub in Bethnal Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The same thing I did at Leyton Orient dunce: tell them to shut the **** up! You forget I'm a former UAF activist, right-wing " 'ard nuts" don't put the ****ters up me. I was outside of Dirty Dicks near Liverpool street on the day of the Orient game,the EDL turned up to recruit and the Saints there told them to feck off in no uncertain terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Did you tell them to shut the f*ck up? I'll be honest, no. I was heading for the Metropolitan line or something, I wasn't going to go back on myself. Turkish, you seem to think I want to be some sort of left-wing warrior? I was simply doing my duty as a decent citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 No I remember it was two years ago because I had come back from Majorca the previous day. The EDL rally was this year because I could hear a couple of these splendid people as I walked through Kings Cross. Look, you believe what you like. I know what I did, I'd do it again. Maybe it will be you I will be telling to 'shut the **** up' next time eh? It was in our first season in L1 that i'm talking about and there was an EDL rally that day. But anyway welldone for saying what you did. I wanted to say something but I was lost for words. You know how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Yes i know where you mean. Went there both times we played them. The only EDL chanting i heard mentioned was outside the Salmon and Ball pub in Bethnal Green. Well I doubt we walked through there at the same times Turkish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 It was in our first season in L1 that i'm talking about and there was an EDL rally that day. But anyway welldone for saying what you did. I wanted to say something but I was lost for words. You know how it is. Well I imagine your mouth was open in awe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 It was in our first season in L1 that i'm talking about and there was an EDL rally that day. But anyway welldone for saying what you did. I wanted to say something but I was lost for words. You know how it is. Come on Dune! Reply to my question or do I have to hound you relentlessly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Come on Dune! Reply to my question or do I have to hound you relentlessly? Please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Well I imagine your mouth was open in awe? No, on the contrary, they thumped the bonnet of asian ladies car, and i was going to pass a comment, but thought i'd wait til i got back to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Please do. Ha ha you're a vaccous little **** unable to construct any kind of argument or indeed any defence aren't you? You really have no brain or ability to think for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Ha ha you're a vaccous little **** unable to construct any kind of argument or indeed any defence aren't you? You really have no brain or ability to think for yourself. Indeed. I'm so used to having the Liberal Elite speaking for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 No, on the contrary, they thumped the bonnet of asian ladies car, and i was going to pass a comment, but thought i'd wait til i got back to the forum. Very sensible, the internet warrior that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Indeed. I'm so used to having the Liberal Elite speaking for me. You can always try speaking for yourself but maybe the question was too hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The latest yougov poll is out and only 8% blame the cuts. That p/sses on the fire of the deluded Socialists looking to gain political capital from these acts of criminal behaviour and gang culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The latest yougov poll is out and only 8% blame the cuts. That p/sses on the fire of the deluded Socialists looking to gain political capital from these acts of criminal behaviour and gang culture. Still no chance of an answer? What are you afraid of? Or just incapable of answering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Still no chance of an answer? What are you afraid of? Or just incapable of answering? You could tell me what to say. This is how it works in a Liberal Elitist democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-psychology-of-looting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 You could tell me what to say. This is how it works in a Liberal Elitist democracy. That's not an answer dumbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-psychology-of-looting Good article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Good article. The author of that article is on Newsnight BBC2 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 August, 2011 Share Posted 11 August, 2011 Good article. He stops short of saying it's their right of passage though. Maybe you should comment and put him right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 August, 2011 Share Posted 11 August, 2011 Don't know what you're trying to say - could say the same thing about the influx of hardworking filipino nurses who prop up the NHS or before that Indians or Chinese...Are you making an immigration point (and the last time I looked, most of the news is about whites feeling undercut by 'harder working' immigrants)? Or is it a race point? Nah was another apologist line I picked up in the press yesterday. It was a Leftie who was giving excuses and got pinged back that if that was the case then it was THEIR fault because of Blair's Immigration policies.. (hence the doh & facepalm) It was somewhere between reading a very clever dissection (ie attack) on Harriet Harman in the Telegraph and it was followed a few moments later by seeing some "Senior Police" chap (with the scrambled eggs on his hat) commenting to Sky in a really p1ssed off tone that "People should shut up making stupid comments and stop making it into a Political Issue". Sky are having a debate on it at 8pm tonight. Think I'll make sure I watch a cookery programme it will just annoy the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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