TijuanaTim Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 We play PNE this weekend, we were royally shafted with no lube up there this time last year. They easily knocked in 5 and even missed a peno. We had numerous better paid journeymen...let's see what the nippers do. Get behind those boys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 Interesting point. For all the talk of experience and 'wise heads' being the definitive answer to succeeding in this league, the games against Preston and Sheff Wed were sharp exceptions to that rule. Team against Preston: (1-5) Davis, Ostlund, Dailly, Thomas, Ifil, Surman, Viafara, Safri, Dyer, Saganowski, Rasiak Team against Sheff Wed: (0-5) Davis, Andrew Davies, Dailly, Thomas, Skacel, Surman, Viafara, Safri, Euell, Saganowski, John Tons of experience there, but amounting to sound thrashings both times. Perhaps this Championship business isn't as easy as first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 Interesting point. For all the talk of experience and 'wise heads' being the definitive answer to succeeding in this league, the games against Preston and Sheff Wed were sharp exceptions to that rule. I don't think anyone has ever come up with a definitive answer/ guaranteed way of succeeding in this league. At best I think people have arued for a good mix of youth and experience (along with a decent manager). Team against Preston: (1-5) Davis, Ostlund, Dailly, Thomas, Ifil, Surman, Viafara, Safri, Dyer, Saganowski, Rasiak Team against Sheff Wed: (0-5) Davis, Andrew Davies, Dailly, Thomas, Skacel, Surman, Viafara, Safri, Euell, Saganowski, John Tons of experience there, but amounting to sound thrashings both times. Perhaps this Championship business isn't as easy as first thought. On paper, both of those sides look very strong and certainly shouldn't have crumbled the way they did. Something was very wrong back then at the start of that season (and I think Burley was the main reason) as from memory we alternated from these drubbings, to beating the likes of West Brom at home and Sheff Utd away in the same period!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 2 reasons for those drubbings...GB and KD thank god scotland took GB off our hands and at last KD has his confidence back and is twice the keeper he was back then. No doubt he will be the next to be loaned out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 2 reasons for those drubbings...GB and KD thank god scotland took GB off our hands and at last KD has his confidence back and is twice the keeper he was back then. No doubt he will be the next to be loaned out... Would have agreed, especially about Burley. But then again we also lost 5-0 away to Hull when neither GB "managed" or KD played, and again only had 3 youngsters (Poke, Vignal and McG). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 We will get hammered on saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 Will Preston be fielding the same team as last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 Would have agreed, especially about Burley. But then again we also lost 5-0 away to Hull when neither GB "managed" or KD played, and again only had 3 youngsters (Poke, Vignal and McG). To be fair to NP, Poke only came in just before ko (or was it even him that was injured and played?) and Hull were right in the middle of their current form that's extended into this season. Plus they might have felt they owed us one for the 4-0 at SMS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 So let's get this straight : not conceeding 5 goals or not losing by 4 goals will be viewed as progress ? Even though this was deffo one of Burley's regular "off days" ????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 2 reasons for those drubbings...GB and KD thank god scotland took GB off our hands and at last KD has his confidence back and is twice the keeper he was back then. No doubt he will be the next to be loaned out... I dread to think what will happen to us without KD, and I wonder what the reaction will be....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 So let's get this straight : not conceeding 5 goals or not losing by 4 goals will be viewed as progress ? Even though this was deffo one of Burley's regular "off days" ????????? Equally, I wonder if Preston will be thinking that if they don't win by 4 or 5 goals it will be a major step backwards for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 To be fair to NP, Poke only came in just before ko (or was it even him that was injured and played?) and Hull were right in the middle of their current form that's extended into this season. Plus they might have felt they owed us one for the 4-0 at SMS? I'm sure that was the game that he got injured in the warm up and still played (did we have a keeper on the bench as I thought we were right out of them at that point!!!!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 To be fair to NP, Poke only came in just before ko (or was it even him that was injured and played?) and Hull were right in the middle of their current form that's extended into this season. Plus they might have felt they owed us one for the 4-0 at SMS? Yes. KD and Bart were out, and third-choice Poke played while injured. Reasonable excuse for NP's only tonking as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 So conceiveably we could go up there - lose by 4, but still claim some level of success. My how we have fallen. The very thought that we are trying to guage progress by comparison of a single game played in different seasons is somewhat futile. The bottom line is the league table - it does not lie, not now and especially not at the end of the season. Remember that '4 team mini league' - lets just hope that we win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 We play PNE this weekend, we were royally shafted with no lube up there this time last year. They easily knocked in 5 and even missed a peno. We had numerous better paid journeymen...let's see what the nippers do. Get behind those boys!! Not really relevant, seeing as Carter scored the rebound from the saved penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 LOL. We'll get thrashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 I think its going to be a tough game but one that both teams will get a share of the spoils. 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdorset Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Another loss, 3-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 We play PNE this weekend, we were royally shafted with no lube up there this time last year. They easily knocked in 5 and even missed a peno. We had numerous better paid journeymen...let's see what the nippers do. Get behind those boys!! OK, Fair enough .... any loss up to 4-0 must therefore be classed as "progress" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 31 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 31 October, 2008 OK, Fair enough .... any loss up to 4-0 must therefore be classed as "progress" Not really, a nice win/draw or a decent performance will work tho' huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Not really, a nice win/draw or a decent performance will work tho' huh? People aren't really looking for progress though, people are looking for more evidence that things are getting worse and it's 'the worst thing that could ever happen EVER... oh noes....' TM Any kind of result would represent progress on last season, yes. I must say it's amusing to read Alpine talking KD up these days, if it'd been up to him we'd have given him away for peanuts last season and be in a right state currently. Personally if we finish the season a place or two higher than last season then it's job done as far as I'm concerned, I suspect other people are yet to manage their expectations down to a 'realistic' level yet (some seem to have their expectations still set a 'prem' which probably explains some of the 'angst'). Is Alpine still stalking Burley these days? Or has he got over his obsession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Would have agreed, especially about Burley. But then again we also lost 5-0 away to Hull when neither GB "managed" or KD played, and again only had 3 youngsters (Poke, Vignal and McG). youngster?? he's 27!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 31 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Any kind of result would represent progress on last season, yes. Personally if we finish the season a place or two higher than last season then it's job done as far as I'm concerned, I suspect other people are yet to manage their expectations down to a 'realistic' level yet This is true Kevin. It is good to have a healthy prospective, I believe and have believed from the start of the season 16th would be a feasible and good finish for us currently. Then we take stock, use the extra experienced our young, talented group have acquired and push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Would have agreed, especially about Burley. But then again we also lost 5-0 away to Hull when neither GB "managed" or KD played, and again only had 3 youngsters (Poke, Vignal and McG). how is vignal young he is 27!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 31 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 31 October, 2008 how is vignal young he is 27!? Young compared to me but ancient compared to our current team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 how is vignal young he is 27!? yeah i noticed aswell, thats old hat compared to our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 How about, "If you lose I will confisgate your gameboys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 This is true Kevin. It is good to have a healthy prospective, I believe and have believed from the start of the season 16th would be a feasible and good finish for us currently. Then we take stock, use the extra experienced our young, talented group have acquired and push on. Unfortunatley these will be sold for revenue in January on the back of the "we have no money issue" yet we continue to take players on loan......:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 1 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 1 November, 2008 Suffice t'say in this instance significant progress has been made, Keep the Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 Tijuana Tim - just heard you on the radio. totally agree. Well said. also agree with you about Oscar - sounds like a level headed young man. good on him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 PNE nowhere near so good this year, very frail at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 How about, "If you lose I will confisgate your gameboys". Gameboys? I thought people had PSP's now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 1 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 1 November, 2008 'Our boys' as Jan calls them, were very game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 LOL. We'll get thrashed. There's on bad thing and one good thing that strikes me about this statement a) The self-evident self-satisfaction when you posted it b) The actual result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdorset Posted 3 November, 2008 Share Posted 3 November, 2008 how is vignal young he is 27!? If 27 is old, Im giving up now, Im that age next yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 3 November, 2008 Share Posted 3 November, 2008 Don't give up Dorset: I still go to team training twice a week, occasional stuff on my own, plus the skiing season starts soon and I'm 53! I've only played friendlies but when my official clearance comes through I have to admit that I'd prefer to start on the bench and come on as an impact player. Impact player as I'm big and strong, especially compared with most Italian women, and er.... clumsy and no technique! :-) Let's forget Preston for a moment though; weaker maybe, but I think _we_ have made progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 3 November, 2008 Share Posted 3 November, 2008 PNE nowhere near so good this year, very frail at the back. We score less goals than the team we play = we are crap. We score more goals than the team we play = they are so much crappier than last year. Can you give me the doom forecast on how unlucky I should feel if I win the lottery please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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