Saint Charlie Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Is Sam injured? Didnt feature in the last set of friendlies and isnt in any of the training videos. Koeman said something about him being ill a few weeks back but surely that isn't the case still? I think he would be best served playing some U21 games or getting some matches on loan, but hopefully all is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed&White Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Sam has been unwell for the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Had a tough time off the pitch in the last 9 months. Poor lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I don't wish to see endless threads speculating on Sam's health but there are a number of illnesses that effect young people. Most common is glandular fever which takes a couple of months to clear up. Hopefully it's something that will respond well to rest and good medication. Wishing Sam a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Surely the most common is cold / flu. You've leapt to quite a conclusion there Art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Had a tough time off the pitch in the last 9 months. Poor lad. He's had a tough time on the pitch. Technically not yet there in my opinion. But....he's young and will learn. Potentials there. Should head out on loan once Jay Rod returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Andrew Halford speculating on twitter that the lad might have depression. Sad if true, but I'd sooner diagnose Halford with pseudologia fantastica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Surely the most common is cold / flu. You've leapt to quite a conclusion there Art! He hasn't been seen for 3 weeks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Had a tough time off the pitch in the last 9 months. Poor lad. Quite, this thread is not really needed, maybe best to close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Quite, this thread is not really needed, maybe best to close it. A thread speculating on if he is injured should be closed? Why? It's just speculation on a message board and doesn't affect anything or anyone. It's hardly people insulting him is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 A thread speculating on if he is injured should be closed? Why? It's just speculation on a message board and doesn't affect anything or anyone. It's hardly people insulting him is it.Perhaps its delving into his private life. you know some nonce will come on and give personal stuff (made up even) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Quite, this thread is not really needed, maybe best to close it. Seconded. Especially seeing as it is all speculation. If he does have off the field issues then it is probably best he can deal with them away from the spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Perhaps its delving into his private life. you know some nonce will come on and give personal stuff (made up even) And if they do then there is a case to have it closed or those posts deleted. So far I haven't seen anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Seconded. Especially seeing as it is all speculation. If he does have off the field issues then it is probably best he can deal with them away from the spotlight. So we aren't allowed to discuss it despite the fact it can affect the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 So we aren't allowed to discuss it despite the fact it can affect the team? We can but we don't actually know sod all so pure speculation seems counter-productive at best. I like that the forum is quite open and that we can discuss whatever posters feel like however I would urge a little caution and restraint when it may be about one of our players having off the field issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I don't wish to see endless threads speculating on Sam's health but there are a number of illnesses that effect young people. Most common is glandular fever which takes a couple of months to clear up. Hopefully it's something that will respond well to rest and good medication. Wishing Sam a speedy recovery. But you speculated nonetheless?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 We can but we don't actually know sod all so pure speculation seems counter-productive at best. I like that the forum is quite open and that we can discuss whatever posters feel like however I would urge a little caution and restraint when it may be about one of our players having off the field issues. I equate this place to a pub. If you had this conversation there you wouldn't suddenly say oh no let's not discuss this topic. As long as no one is abusive or derogatory (and all we have really had is sympathy.) then I see nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 We can but we don't actually know sod all so pure speculation seems counter-productive at best. I like that the forum is quite open and that we can discuss whatever posters feel like however I would urge a little caution and restraint when it may be about one of our players having off the field issues. Seems a bit silly that people are allowed to have a 10 page thread about Morgan's 'H=head gone' due to off field issues and call him every name under the Sun but have to show restraint when asking why Gallagher hasn't been playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 I equate this place to a pub. If you had this conversation there you wouldn't suddenly say oh no let's not discuss this topic. As long as no one is abusive or derogatory (and all we have really had is sympathy.) then I see nothing wrong. Hypo I can respect that as your opinion but would disagree. I understand the analogy but the internet plays by different rules then pals down the pub. A bit of billy bullsh*tting down the pub and it is likely to get as far as your mates mate big Colin whereas on here rumours gain traction, often get treated as gospel and can have wider consequences. Appreciate nobody has said anything to get bunched about on here but just wanted to sound a note of caution on the topic. Seems a bit silly that people are allowed to have a 10 page thread about Morgan's 'H=head gone' due to off field issues and call him every name under the Sun but have to show restraint when asking why Gallagher hasn't been playing. Oldskoolsi I am not trying to say x or z should not be discussed if it is done in the right way. The difference is, for me, between dealing with established facts (ie Morgan wants to leave) which the player himself made a rather public show of is different to discussing speculation about Gallagher's personal life when he appears to be a private person and we do not actually know what he is dealing with. Anyway that is my two cents worth. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 (edited) Hypo I can respect that as your opinion but would disagree. I understand the analogy but the internet plays by different rules then pals down the pub. A bit of billy bullsh*tting down the pub and it is likely to get as far as your mates mate big Colin whereas on here rumours gain traction, often get treated as gospel and can have wider consequences. Appreciate nobody has said anything to get bunched about on here but just wanted to sound a note of caution on the topic. Oldskoolsi I am not trying to say x or z should not be discussed if it is done in the right way. The difference is, for me, between dealing with established facts (ie Morgan wants to leave) which the player himself made a rather public show of is different to discussing speculation about Gallagher's personal life when he appears to be a private person and we do not actually know what he is dealing with. Anyway that is my two cents worth. Thanks. Nah there isn't really any wider consequences to a couple of people on here wondering where Sam has gone. I think you are taking it too seriously. Besides, it doesn't break the forum rules so I think we are good. It's been asked in a good natured way, not wild tabloid speculation. Edited 16 August, 2014 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 The trouble is now people have said on here that we should tread carefully when talking about off field problems in this discussions and suggesting it be closed without offering any facts about why he has been away has only added fuel to speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Surely the most common is cold / flu. You've leapt to quite a conclusion there Art! Cant rule out Aids, Ebola or smallpox TBh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Cant rule out Aids, Ebola or smallpox TBh Think it's pretty obvious that he is out after having the op. Welcome Samantha, you'll have my support dude/babe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Think it's pretty obvious that he is out after having the op. Welcome Samantha, you'll have my support dude/babe. I dont think we should be talking about his personal issues tbh, very harsh, Isgrove selfishly didnt give him the premier league shiney for his merlin sticker book today despite having 3 swapsies. Very very sad times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Hypo I can respect that as your opinion but would disagree. I understand the analogy but the internet plays by different rules then pals down the pub. A bit of billy bullsh*tting down the pub and it is likely to get as far as your mates mate big Colin whereas on here rumours gain traction, often get treated as gospel and can have wider consequences. If you honestly believe that the innernetz has these sorts of far reaching consequences, can I politely suggest you go and spend a little more time in the pub - or anywhere outside in the fresh air??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 If you honestly believe that the innernetz has these sorts of far reaching consequences, can I politely suggest you go and spend a little more time in the pub - or anywhere outside in the fresh air??? It can very easily have wider reaching consequences! Hope everything's alright with the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 It can very easily have wider reaching consequences! Hope everything's alright with the guy. How can a gentle thread on a fan messageboard where fans react with sympathy towards a player and wonder why he is missing have wide reaching consequences? Give an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 He's re-tweeting on Twitter so is sufficiently ok to be on his communications device (many such devices are available) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 Just to clarify for anyone reading this thread Gallagher may or may not have depression..all we do know is he's happily retweeting on twitter and most likely isn't starting against Liverpool as he's not good enough yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 16 August, 2014 Share Posted 16 August, 2014 What a bunch of precious saps, it's just speculation as to why a player hasn't been seen for a while. Could be a million reasons jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 What a bunch of precious saps, it's just speculation as to why a player hasn't been seen for a while. Could be a million reasons jeez Isaac Asimov died in 1992 of AIDS. Should we be misattributing quotes to him in a public forum like this? It might hurt his feelings which, as an atheist, he no longer has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Isaac Asimov died in 1992 of AIDS. Should we be misattributing quotes to him in a public forum like this? It might hurt his feelings which, as an atheist, he no longer has. Even atheists can go to heaven. Also, it's not depression if you have a reason to be sad. It's just sadness. Which is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 What if someone with depression gets some sad news? Are they cured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 What if someone with depression gets some sad news? Are they cured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 17 August, 2014 From his last Instagram pic it looks like he has a leg injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 17 August, 2014 From his last Instagram pic it looks like he has a leg injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 What if someone with depression gets some sad news? Are they cured? Clinical depression is nothing to do with being sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 What if someone with depression gets some sad news? Are they cured? Clinical depression is nothing to do with being sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 I just hope Sam is back in the fold as soon as possible. Regardless of the issue he has my best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 I just hope Sam is back in the fold as soon as possible. Regardless of the issue he has my best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 SamGallagher40: Disappointing result but a great promising performance from all the lads! Buzzing for @lloyd_isgrove making his prem debut #saintsfc Just tweeted this - so he must be around somewhere. Hopefully, he will be back with us soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 SamGallagher40: Disappointing result but a great promising performance from all the lads! Buzzing for @lloyd_isgrove making his prem debut #saintsfc Just tweeted this - so he must be around somewhere. Hopefully, he will be back with us soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Seems a bit silly that people are allowed to have a 10 page thread about Morgan's 'H=head gone' due to off field issues and call him every name under the Sun but have to show restraint when asking why Gallagher hasn't been playing. Morgans off the field issues? He wants to move to a bigger club and get a payrise. I wouldn't call that an off field issue? Gallagher is dealing with the death of his farther, at 19!!! Hardly comparable is it? We can talk about Morgan because his off the field "issue" is football related. Gallaghers, seems nothing to do with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Seems a bit silly that people are allowed to have a 10 page thread about Morgan's 'H=head gone' due to off field issues and call him every name under the Sun but have to show restraint when asking why Gallagher hasn't been playing. Morgans off the field issues? He wants to move to a bigger club and get a payrise. I wouldn't call that an off field issue? Gallagher is dealing with the death of his farther, at 19!!! Hardly comparable is it? We can talk about Morgan because his off the field "issue" is football related. Gallaghers, seems nothing to do with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldskoolsi Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Morgans off the field issues? He wants to move to a bigger club and get a payrise. I wouldn't call that an off field issue? Gallagher is dealing with the death of his farther, at 19!!! Hardly comparable is it? We can talk about Morgan because his off the field "issue" is football related. Gallaghers, seems nothing to do with football. I don't think either has depression so I have no issues in discussing it so, from that comment, it means that if a player has depression due to football issues we can talk about it but not if it is non football related. I disagree. I don't think there are hard and fast rules for what causes depression and what doesn't but I'd imagine not being allowed to have a better job for more money isn't going to help. Depression is a buzz thing at the moment but it's something people still have little knowledge about. I think people should be making the judgement that so and so is just being greedy so we don't really care how he feels and can call him all the names under the sun, however someone else should be treated with kid gloves by people who have no contact with him because their parent died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Morgans off the field issues? He wants to move to a bigger club and get a payrise. I wouldn't call that an off field issue? Gallagher is dealing with the death of his farther, at 19!!! Hardly comparable is it? We can talk about Morgan because his off the field "issue" is football related. Gallaghers, seems nothing to do with football. I don't think either has depression so I have no issues in discussing it so, from that comment, it means that if a player has depression due to football issues we can talk about it but not if it is non football related. I disagree. I don't think there are hard and fast rules for what causes depression and what doesn't but I'd imagine not being allowed to have a better job for more money isn't going to help. Depression is a buzz thing at the moment but it's something people still have little knowledge about. I think people should be making the judgement that so and so is just being greedy so we don't really care how he feels and can call him all the names under the sun, however someone else should be treated with kid gloves by people who have no contact with him because their parent died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Right, fairly conclusive then, he's injured it isn't a mental issue. Raising the leg like that is it an ankle injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 17 August, 2014 Share Posted 17 August, 2014 Right, fairly conclusive then, he's injured it isn't a mental issue. Raising the leg like that is it an ankle injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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