Mole Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Lowe likes to portray those opposed to him as vocal minority (or a lunatic fringe) implying those against him are just insignificant element (or clingons as he once described us) but this is a complete nonsense. You only have to read this forum to see that his support base comprises of a small group (some of which are probably plants) that support him no matter what. The vocal minority are, and always have been, those who support Lowe. He is without a shadow of a doubt the most hated chairman in the whole of English football but still he clings to power at Saints. It's time for the silent majority to do everything in their power to force Lowe out of our club for good. In the old days Saints fans would never have allowed someone like Lowe to continue as chairman, yet we do now. Every Saints fan has a voice and it's now time to crank up the pressure and finally rid the club of Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Im in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 This is the most idiotic post I have ever seen. The "lowe out" brigade think they are "silent" and everyone else is "vocal". Totally laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 MLT says that everyone must go - a clean sweep... Northam you've had your orders LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 This is the most idiotic post I have ever seen. The "lowe out" brigade think they are "silent" and everyone else is "vocal". Totally laughable. I agree - as I think the majority are very vocal in their opposition to the way the Club has been run by this current and previous plc boardroom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 MLT says that everyone must go - a clean sweep... Northam you've had your orders LOL! Its coming and coming soon. Just wait till our next home game. What ever the result there will be some anti Lowe songs started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 I think you will find that the silent majority are the thousands of fans who do not post on here or do not sing anti-Lowe songs at St Marys but want Lowe gone. There is life outside of this forum Bungle and most of it is anti Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Its coming and coming soon. Just wait till our next home game. What ever the result there will be some anti Lowe songs started. That's tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 I think you will find that the silent majority are the thousands of fans who do not post on here or do not sing anti-Lowe songs at St Marys but want Lowe gone. There is life outside of this forum Bungle and most of it is anti Lowe. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 I think you will find that the silent majority are the thousands of fans who do not post on here or do not sing anti-Lowe songs at St Marys but want Lowe gone. There is life outside of this forum Bungle and most of it is anti Lowe. Agreed but because it is silent Rupert and his men see it as a sign of support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 This is the most idiotic post I have ever seen. The "lowe out" brigade think they are "silent" and everyone else is "vocal". Totally laughable. indeed my socialist friend..i agree with you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 I think you will find that the silent majority are the thousands of fans who do not post on here or do not sing anti-Lowe songs at St Marys but want Lowe gone. There is life outside of this forum Bungle and most of it is anti Lowe. along with Wilde and Crouch - ie the whole flippin lot of them. Getting Lowe to stand down does not solve our problems. He would still be an influence and a shareholder. Leon taking over again does not solve our problems either. His actions at the recent AGM, to me at least, showed he was/is equally divisive as well as all about himself. I think the "silent majority" just want his flipping pantomime to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 What do we want? Lowe out! What then? We dont know! Do we want a multi millionaire? Yes! Do they want us? No! Magic Fairy anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 What do we want? How about a competent manager and a competent, respected and unifying CEO. That doesn't sound like rocket science to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 along with Wilde and Crouch - ie the whole flippin lot of them. Getting Lowe to stand down does not solve our problems. He would still be an influence and a shareholder. Leon taking over again does not solve our problems either. His actions at the recent AGM, to me at least, showed he was/is equally divisive as well as all about himself. I think the "silent majority" just want his flipping pantomime to end. very true, most don't care about the personalities just want to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Its coming and coming soon. Just wait till our next home game. What ever the result there will be some anti Lowe songs started. good support at the last game, it will be when performance is bad -as everything most don't care about boardroom and not interested in Lowe or Crouch in or out songs will be happy if team play ok but complain if they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 How about a competent manager and a competent, respected and unifying CEO. That doesn't sound like rocket science to me. Good insight. A thought which clearly hasnt occurred to anyone else. You're the first. Second trickier part is, how do we get that since no-one apart from SISU has shown any serious interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 What do we want? Lowe out! What then? We dont know! Do we want a multi millionaire? Yes! Do they want us? No! Magic Fairy anyone? Actually Cowen as Chairman and Lowe stepping out of SFC affairs on an active basis would be an improvement in the short-term at least. No shares even need to change hands for that, as long as Cowen could be talked into it given the basket case he'd inherit. I've met him and he does have the people skills to do it, unlike Rupert. Cowen could be a bridge to a new regime in the future that would be more palatable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 It's time for the silent majority to do everything in their power to force Lowe out of our club for good. In the old days Saints fans would never have allowed someone like Lowe to continue as chairman, yet we do now. Every Saints fan has a voice and it's now time to crank up the pressure and finally rid the club of Lowe. Aren't these the people who refuse to go to St Mary's whilst Lowe is there? Bit difficult for them to protest under the circumstances... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Actually Cowen as Chairman and Lowe stepping out of SFC affairs on an active basis would be an improvement in the short-term at least. No shares even need to change hands for that, as long as Cowen could be talked into it given the basket case he'd inherit. I've met him and he does have the people skills to do it, unlike Rupert. Cowen could be a bridge to a new regime in the future that would be more palatable IMO. Cowen is a good man and widely respected who doesnt have any of the baggage of the principal shareholders. The problem is that at most companies the major shareholders want a seat on the board - and thats where the divisiveness comes in. Without somebody coming in with a takeover offer they all accept, I'm not sure all three of Crouch, Wilde and Lowe would step back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven on the wing Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Lowe holds control by others proxying their shares added to his 6%. This should be removed to allow the club to re unite and move on. It doesnot mean we would need to spend recklessly as a result. There is an alternative to our "Double Dutch" methods - just plain common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Good insight. A thought which clearly hasnt occurred to anyone else. You're the first. Second trickier part is, how do we get that since no-one apart from SISU has shown any serious interest. You don't need to be taken over to change a manager and/or a CEO. Many clubs (even ourselves) have done it recently. But of course what it needs is an acceptance from some within Lowe's cabal and from Wilde that this experiment is failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Cowen is a good man and widely respected who doesnt have any of the baggage of the principal shareholders. The problem is that at most companies the major shareholders want a seat on the board - and thats where the divisiveness comes in. Without somebody coming in with a takeover offer they all accept, I'm not sure all three of Crouch, Wilde and Lowe would step back. Therein lies why we need wholesale change and why the major shareholders plus their lakeys are not interested in SFC's welfare. We need a respected figure ASAP and if it is Cowen and I think it could be, you'd like to think Wilde would see sense. For all the fuss about Lowe, he owns a poxy 6%. OK, Askham and associated rentboys prop that up to about 18-20% but it's still less than Wilde. Wilde could help unlock the short-term divisions if he could be bothered to use a phone or visit the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 You don't need to be taken over to change a manager and/or a CEO. Many clubs (even ourselves) have done it recently. No but to attract a good CEO and team manager you need to show them: The board are united The board have a workable plan for recovery The board have the funds available to implement the development plans for success produced by the CEO and team manager Without all of those in place you simply attract turkeys who cant a job anywhere else- and we dont have any of those in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 No but to attract a good CEO and team manager you need to show them: The board are united The board have a workable plan for recovery The board have the funds available to implement the development plans for success produced by the CEO and team manager Without all of those in place you simply attract turkeys who cant a job anywhere else- and we dont have any of those in place. I'm not saying it will be easy and arguably we got turkeys in situ after the summers farce, but I don't see sitting back and just accepting our fate as an acceptable alternative. Wilde, Richards, Crouch and others need to bite the bullet and agree to get something done. Sticking with Jan and maintaining Lowe in such a position of power is increasingly looking like a recipe for disaster. It will need some humbling of egos, some compromise and a dash of hope, but I fail to believe that this position is irreversible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 'The vocal minority', a phrase i coined about 5 years ago. They got us into this mess and they should be ashamed of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 This is the most idiotic post I have ever seen. The "lowe out" brigade think they are "silent" and everyone else is "vocal". Totally laughable. But many more Lowe out than in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 'The vocal minority', a phrase i coined about 5 years ago. They got us into this mess and they should be ashamed of themselves. Thank god you don't teach my kids. Something not right about a male teacher obsessed, almost psychotically, with Hoddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 3 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Actually Cowen as Chairman and Lowe stepping out of SFC affairs on an active basis would be an improvement in the short-term at least. No shares even need to change hands for that, as long as Cowen could be talked into it given the basket case he'd inherit. I've met him and he does have the people skills to do it, unlike Rupert. Cowen could be a bridge to a new regime in the future that would be more palatable IMO. Cowen was Lowes fag at public school so would just be a yes man puppet like Portaloo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Lowe likes to portray those opposed to him as vocal minority (or a lunatic fringe) implying those against him are just insignificant element (or clingons as he once described us) but this is a complete nonsense. You only have to read this forum to see that his support base comprises of a small group (some of which are probably plants) that support him no matter what. The vocal minority are, and always have been, those who support Lowe. He is without a shadow of a doubt the most hated chairman in the whole of English football but still he clings to power at Saints. It's time for the silent majority to do everything in their power to force Lowe out of our club for good. In the old days Saints fans would never have allowed someone like Lowe to continue as chairman, yet we do now. Every Saints fan has a voice and it's now time to crank up the pressure and finally rid the club of Lowe.oh dear its groundhog day again,reminds me of the THE OKEY-COKEY Traditional Party Song You put your left arm in Your left arm out In out, in out, You shake it all about You do the Okey-Cokey And you turn around That's what it's all about Oh, Okey-Cokey-Cokey Oh, Okey-Cokey-Cokey Oh, Okey-Cokey-Cokey Knees bend, arms stretch Rah-rah-rah You put your right arm in Etc...... You put your left leg in Etc...... You put your right leg in Etc...... You put your whole self in Etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 3 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Thank god you don't teach my kids. Something not right about a male teacher obsessed, almost psychotically, with Hoddle. Most teachers only teach because they don't have the ability to do a proper job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 MLT says that everyone must go - a clean sweep... Northam you've had your orders LOL! I heard MLT speak on Sky earlier. A great Saints hero he still is. I dont think he should ever be a Saints manager. But in our year of crisis I wish he would become a standard bearer for the new Saints revolution. So MLT please pick up the phone and ring a few people with money to put together a consortium. MLT - make 2009 the year you saved Saints (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 I heard MLT speak on Sky earlier. A great Saints hero he still is. I dont think he should ever be a Saints manager. But in our year of crisis I wish he would become a standard bearer for the new Saints revolution. So MLT please pick up the phone and ring a few people with money to put together a consortium. MLT - make 2009 the year you saved Saints (again) Why would MLT want to become a manager when he can be a TV pundit ? MLT however, does speak as he sees things and has a unique role as someone who has been an insider. The whole situation in the club is so complicated at board level with most people carrying baggage or tarnished in some way or another that we probably do need a clean sweep. If we get relegated i think this will happen naturally. In the meantime we will have to see if Lowe's plan works, it looks bleak at the moment but it migh work yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Why would MLT want to become a manager when he can be a TV pundit ? MLT however, does speak as he sees things and has a unique role as someone who has been an insider. The whole situation in the club is so complicated at board level with most people carrying baggage or tarnished in some way or another that we probably do need a clean sweep. If we get relegated i think this will happen naturally. In the meantime we will have to see if Lowe's plan works, it looks bleak at the moment but it migh work yet.Good grief! Was that a Dalek post without any direct or oblique reference to how the fans are at fault for Hoddle not saving us from all this grief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundance Beast Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 'The vocal minority', a phrase i coined about 5 years ago. They got us into this mess and they should be ashamed of themselves. Very true and that is why the vast majority of Saints fan prefer to go to games and support the team and leave the idiotic acts of symbolism and caterwauling to the 10's of ardent anti-lowe supporters on this forum. These 10's have more in common with the World War 1 generals than fans of this club, they sit behind the comfort of their desks (keyboards) encouraging protest and song from the 'troops' of ordinary fans but not able to put 'themselves over the top' to lead the charge. At least Chorley had the guts to do it (an idiotic action nonetheless) but not many would be prepared to risk the consequences of an indefinite and deserved ban from SMS. Those who were cajoled and 'encouraged' to get behind the last Lowe out campaign have all too painfuly seen the fruits of their own labour over the past few years and this time i think we have all been shamed into silence. Let Lowe get on with the job of saving our skins until a suitable offer is on the table - until then there is no alternative, unless you have the radical views of Scargill in the 80's believing that you can profit mining from a pit with little coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Very true and that is why the vast majority of Saints fan prefer to go to games and support the team and leave the idiotic acts of symbolism and caterwauling to the 10's of ardent anti-lowe supporters on this forum. These 10's have more in common with the World War 1 generals than fans of this club, they sit behind the comfort of their desks (keyboards) encouraging protest and song from the 'troops' of ordinary fans but not able to put 'themselves over the top' to lead the charge. At least Chorley had the guts to do it (an idiotic action nonetheless) but not many would be prepared to risk the consequences of an indefinite and deserved ban from SMS. Those who were cajoled and 'encouraged' to get behind the last Lowe out campaign have all too painfuly seen the fruits of their own labour over the past few years and this time i think we have all been shamed into silence. Let Lowe get on with the job of saving our skins until a suitable offer is on the table - until then there is no alternative, unless you have the radical views of Scargill in the 80's believing that you can profit mining from a pit with little coal. Scargill? World War 1 generals?? Hmmm. Methinks you have been at the old grape juice this evening Sundance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Most teachers only teach because they don't have the ability to do a proper job. Would you like to reconsider that statement? How far does your experience of the education system run? Not very far, I would imagine. I like your posts, Stanley, but that statement is both ill-informed and insulting. I worked in industry - successfully - before becoming a teacher. I am now an Assistant Headteacher, a Head of Sixth Form (with responsibility for 330 students) and my school's timetabler. I stand in front of 30 plus teenagers up to five times a day, every day; and I am very good at my job, thank you. Walk a mile in my shoes and then tell me that I do not do a "proper job". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Very true and that is why the vast majority of Saints fan prefer to go to games and support the team and leave the idiotic acts of symbolism and caterwauling to the 10's of ardent anti-lowe supporters on this forum. These 10's have more in common with the World War 1 generals than fans of this club, they sit behind the comfort of their desks (keyboards) encouraging protest and song from the 'troops' of ordinary fans but not able to put 'themselves over the top' to lead the charge. At least Chorley had the guts to do it (an idiotic action nonetheless) but not many would be prepared to risk the consequences of an indefinite and deserved ban from SMS. Those who were cajoled and 'encouraged' to get behind the last Lowe out campaign have all too painfuly seen the fruits of their own labour over the past few years and this time i think we have all been shamed into silence. Let Lowe get on with the job of saving our skins until a suitable offer is on the table - until then there is no alternative, unless you have the radical views of Scargill in the 80's believing that you can profit mining from a pit with little coal. So then Sundance, what would constitute a suitable offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Most teachers only teach because they don't have the ability to do a proper job. And you have the most important job in the world, what would you class as a proper job? How about try teaching and see what it is really like, bet you wouldn't last more than a day. ****ing hate people having a go at teachers saying "Part timers" or "Easy Job", what a ****ing ****** you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 He said most, not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Most teachers only teach because they don't have the ability to do a proper job. Once again you expose yourself as being a true thick headed mule. Just stick to your continal 'Lowe Out' bleating and leave those that truly don't deserve any grief out hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 What do we want? Lowe out! What then? We dont know! Do we want a multi millionaire? Yes! Do they want us? No! Magic Fairy anyone? Wilde,Fans, Legends, Council! Form a sales team...Now! Get of your arses... And find a buyer! When should we do it? Now! Time to be constructive... Lets sell this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Very true and that is why the vast majority of Saints fan prefer to go to games and support the team and leave the idiotic acts of symbolism and caterwauling to the 10's of ardent anti-lowe supporters on this forum. These 10's have more in common with the World War 1 generals than fans of this club, they sit behind the comfort of their desks (keyboards) encouraging protest and song from the 'troops' of ordinary fans but not able to put 'themselves over the top' to lead the charge. At least Chorley had the guts to do it (an idiotic action nonetheless) but not many would be prepared to risk the consequences of an indefinite and deserved ban from SMS. Those who were cajoled and 'encouraged' to get behind the last Lowe out campaign have all too painfuly seen the fruits of their own labour over the past few years and this time i think we have all been shamed into silence. Let Lowe get on with the job of saving our skins until a suitable offer is on the table - until then there is no alternative, unless you have the radical views of Scargill in the 80's believing that you can profit mining from a pit with little coal. Unbelievable... So ousting Lowe was the act that has shamed us all into silence? Truly unbelievable... The prospect of a second relegation, public/press humiliation, adminstration, the loss of every half decent player we have, the potential winding up of this football club isn't shameful but ousting an unpopular, devisive, incompetent chairman is??? Truly, truly unbelievable... So presiding, potentially, over two relegations isn't shameful enough then? At what stage are some of Lowe's most rabid supporters ever going to accept that it was Lowes actions, Lowe's meddling and Lowe's infrastructure that has reduced this club to a farcical mess? Hell no, let's just blame the fans, blame Leon Crouch for four months work and do just about anything other than blame Rupert Lowe... If Poortvleit haas the dubious honour of failing then at least he will have achieved one thing that Chorley and co found so very difficult. He will have made it virtually impossible to Rupert Lowe to stay at Southampton Football Club.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 This site is the complete definition of hypocracy. Just because a bunch of supporters with similar views (remember the luvvies have all been driven away from here by abuse) get together in a rignfenced little world and surround themselves with people who agree with them, they think that view is widely held (remind you of anyone?). Because people have an alternative point of view they are wrong (remind you of anyone?). Many of the posters on here are so like Lowe its scary. There are a huge number of people who do not like Lowe but see him as totally insignificant in the scale of things. It is the nature of the job that Chairmen are despised but their arrogance and their skill in dividing the fan base to weaken the opposition is well executed. Lowe will be here for ages and like other Chairman around the country he will be viewed by some fans of the club (and only by the fans of that particular club) as the most hated figure in the history of the world. Nobody really notices the stayaway fans or the poorly organised demos because most are only interested in what is happening on the pitch. I'm not trying to be nasty or provocative. Just realistic in the hope thst some of you will learn to go back to a football match simply to enjoy the game. If you look closely there is always something to enjoy. Happy new Year from a frustrated and long suffering fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Lowe luvvies driven away. You couldn't make it up. Your full of tripe. Most of thse from the agency went for the xmas period when the agency office closed down. Others have been out shooting and hunting and drinking champers with the rest of The Lavender Hill Mob. They will be back like their leader to further rile the true Reds. Scary you are right..But that is Lowey and only because he definitely has a problem. ARROGANCE..PIECE OF WORK and out of control.... I hate to think what he will be up to at St Marys to-day...Coach/Manager/Director Of Football and bullshi..ing in the lounges. How does he do it Happy New Year you Lowey Luvvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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