OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If the fighting between fans and stewards attacked becomes a common occurance, is there a real possibility of closing the Northam? I think that RL has no time for the Northam anyway, would he consider closing the Northam? I believe the season ticket holders can be forced to move under certain circumstances.The stewards could also withdraw their services and so under ground regulations the stand would be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 That would be the end of the club imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If the fighting between fans and stewards attacked becomes a common occurance, is there a real possibility of closing the Northam? I think that RL has no time for the Northam anyway, would he consider closing the Northam? I believe the season ticket holders can be forced to move under certain circumstances.The stewards could also withdraw their services and so under ground regulations the stand would be closed. Highly likely Nick, that would really show the fringe who's boss. Not my personal thoughts on the matter...but that's how Rupert may see it though.... I do think that on both sides the battle lines have been drawn. Here we go again....2006 but worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 That would be the end of the club imho.It is plausible and it would cause great upset but if fans continue to fight each other it could be a possibility. The stewards probably dont want to have to face many more dasys like saturday.The main man I think wwent down the steps in a heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Lowe already has a fizzing grenade in his office, closing the Northam would be like piling barrels of TNT, crates of flour & drums of fertiliser around it to shield him from the blast? :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 (edited) Highly likely Nick, that would really show the fringe who's boss. Not my personal thoughts on the matter...but that's how Rupert may see it though.... I do think that on both sides the battle lines have been drawn. Here we go again....2006 but worse.I have supported RL fully regardi9ng the financial mess the club is under, and still do but I am moving quickly to the Lowe out camp if he sits on his hands and does nothing regarding the manager and his inept tactics and substitutions. I have heard a couple of other disturbing things regarding Jans tenure that is not good Edited 19 January, 2009 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Here we go again....2006 but worse. Well i f::cking hated going to St Mary's then...so that's something to look forward to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I have supported RL fully regardi9ng the financial mess the club is under, and still do but I am moving quickly to the Lowe out camp if he sits on his hands and does nothing regarding the manager and his inept tactics and substitutions. I have heard a couple of other disturbing things regarding his tenure that is not good Appreciate that Nick, as you know we have had disagreements over issues on here before, but I really feel the scales have been weighted against the current board in a big way. The problem still is that we do not yet know exactly what REAL savings have been made until the interims get published. Just by comparing like for like, if you take into account the sheer amount of new players coming in 'officially as frees' - there are bound to be costs involved even in 'acquiring' those !! What other things have you heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If the fighting between fans and stewards attacked becomes a common occurance, is there a real possibility of closing the Northam? I think that RL has no time for the Northam anyway, would he consider closing the Northam? I believe the season ticket holders can be forced to move under certain circumstances.The stewards could also withdraw their services and so under ground regulations the stand would be closed. I'm sure a lot of fans that stand in the northam pay per game, to close the stand will be suicidal by Lowe (good idea maybe) and will be a big financial loss as those fans won't sit anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Appreciate that Nick, as you know we have had disagreements over issues on here before, but I really feel the scales have been weighted against the current board in a big way. The problem still is that we do not yet know exactly what REAL savings have been made until the interims get published. Just by comparing like for like, if you take into account the sheer amount of new players coming in 'officially as frees' - there are bound to be costs involved even in 'acquiring' those !! What other things have you heard? I will send a guarded PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Doesn't make any sense, it will just mean the same fans sat somewhere else. It is just as easy to fight in other stands, it is probably wise to keep the hardcore concentrated in one place. I'm sure Rupes would prefer them there than a few seats away from him in the Itchen Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I will send a guarded PM Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I will send a guarded PM Send me one as well, as an ex serving soldier (24 years) I'm bound by the official secrets act as I'm still on the official reserve list so your secret will be safe by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Was there not fighting in 3 of the stands Saturday? nickh, you seemed to have disappeared on about 85mins, did you try getting on that pitch? tut tut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Was there not fighting in 3 of the stands Saturday? nickh, you seemed to have disappeared on about 85mins, did you try getting on that pitch? tut tut I left at 89 minutes and pushed through the lads trying to fight the stewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 and still do but I am moving quickly to the Lowe out camp if he sits on his hands and does nothing regarding the manager and his inept tactics and substitutions. I have heard a couple of other disturbing things regarding Jans tenure that is not good So Nick, at what point would you say that you would publicise these other "issues" about Jan? What is your line in the sand? Obviously you're not going to put them in the public domain at the moment, but surely there must be a point where you should if things continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I will send a guarded PM It's a crying shame you dont feel able to reveal this information for open circulation. I regard you as one of the most diehard supporters of Lowe's return on here, and if you are changing your mind this is bloody significant. Those of us who have been dead against his return and his methods from the beginning have suffered months of abuse on here. It would be nice to believe that you would have the decency to set the record straight. However, you dont like me and have no reason to trust me, so am not expecting miracles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 That would be the end of the club imho. I completely agree. But it wouldnt surpise me. As I wrote yesterday, I feel he is entirely capable of having Ted Bates moved if it appears to become some sort of standard for the protests to rally behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Doesn't make any sense, it will just mean the same fans sat somewhere else. It is just as easy to fight in other stands, it is probably wise to keep the hardcore concentrated in one place. I'm sure Rupes would prefer them there than a few seats away from him in the Itchen Stand. valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 It's a crying shame you dont feel able to reveal this information for open circulation. I regard you as one of the most diehard supporters of Lowe's return on here, and if you are changing your mind this is bloody significant. Those of us who have been dead against his return and his methods from the beginning have suffered months of abuse on here. It would be nice to believe that you would have the decency to set the record straight. However, you dont like me and have no reason to trust me, so am not expecting miracles..Again you are mis reading me.Iam not changing my mind about the reasons of my original support.i will change from accepting his moves about getting our finances in line to wanting him gone if he recklessly does not act about the managers inabilities. You alos misrad the fact that you think I dislike you, that again is incorrect i dislike some of your opinions and constant negativity, not you as a person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If Lowe wanted to commit corporate suicide on a Ratners scale, he'd consider it. The likelihood is slim to none, I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I have supported RL fully regardi9ng the financial mess the club is under, and still do but I am moving quickly to the Lowe out camp if he sits on his hands and does nothing regarding the manager and his inept tactics and substitutions. I have heard a couple of other disturbing things regarding Jans tenure that is not good Good that you are considering withdrawing your support of Lowe on grounds of his appointment and support of the hapless Dutchman, but I'm frankly amazed that you have grounds to support him based on his supposed financial accumen. Although he can be credited for some fairly astute stuff on player sales, he can also be criticised for others. Losing Stoneham, failure to appreciate when the time was right to spend a little to attain the next level, a total failure to understand that a few good players was better than a load of dross, that a full stadium at £15 a ticket is better than a half empty one at £24, these examples point up that he has no idea of how to run a company in this sector at all. Factor in his appalling record on managerial appointments (by that I mean the number of them, as well as the poorness of some of the incumbents like JP) and you have a plethora of other reasons why most are already in the Lowe out camp. But I am encouraged that you are seriously contemplating joining those ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Again you are mis reading me.Iam not changing my mind about the reasons of my original support.i will change from accepting his moves about getting our finances in line to wanting him gone if he recklessly does not act about the managers inabilities. You alos misrad the fact that you think I dislike you, that again is incorrect i dislike some of your opinions and constant negativity, not you as a person Heh, maybe Rupert is starting to unite the divided fan base! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Heh, maybe Rupert is starting to unite the divided fan base! There now seems to be a consensus on this board along the lines: 1. Poortvliet is not up to it and must be replaced immediately. 2. Lowe has to follow him out the door. Is there anybody around who still supports either of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Imho the Northam stand will be closed next season if we get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 adrian..altohugh I dont agree with the "jan has the hardest job in the league" line... but lets say I do for a min....what sense would it make giving such a hard job (and letting him keep it) to a man with such ridiculously poor tools for the job...? if it such a hard job..why not give it to someone who could make a better fist of it.. i know we are skint..but we have still sign 14 or so players one way or another...still paid over a million for morgan etc..im sure you get me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 FFS the Northam is not going to close, we are not going to get any points deducted. Stop being such a drama queen. There's crowd trouble at grounds every week and none of these things ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 It will never happen for many reasons. For a start the bank would never allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I have supported RL fully regardi9ng the financial mess the club is under, and still do but I am moving quickly to the Lowe out camp if he sits on his hands and does nothing regarding the manager and his inept tactics and substitutions. I have heard a couple of other disturbing things regarding Jans tenure that is not good Palace away,by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Send me one as well, as an ex serving soldier (24 years) I'm bound by the official secrets act as I'm still on the official reserve list so your secret will be safe by me Chefs dont count. How did McGoaldrought get on at the weekend Warwick, sharp again wasn't he? First name on the team sheet for you next time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Palace away,by any chance? Spill the beans then Tone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 FFS the Northam is not going to close, we are not going to get any points deducted. Stop being such a drama queen. There's crowd trouble at grounds every week and none of these things ever happen.I did not say it would ,I just floated the idea it might. If the stewards withdrew their time as they were being set upon on a number of games shall we say, much like saturday, the club would be forced to close the Northam. Your complacency is foolish. As for points deduction , it would depend on how many got on the pitch and what they did when they did.Again unlikely but possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Chefs dont count. How did McGoaldrought get on at the weekend Warwick, sharp again wasn't he? First name on the team sheet for you next time?He did ok, and chased the ball down and set up a couple of chances.Not the worst player on the pitch by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Just something i was told this weekend,but did not involve the actual football,but i cant repeat a rumour,but it may be relevant to Nickh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If the fighting between fans and stewards attacked becomes a common occurance, is there a real possibility of closing the Northam? I think that RL has no time for the Northam anyway, would he consider closing the Northam? I believe the season ticket holders can be forced to move under certain circumstances.The stewards could also withdraw their services and so under ground regulations the stand would be closed. Actually, I am getting more angry about this thread. It's starting to appear like Lowe-directed scare-mongering. So, just to eliminate him from suspicion, can nickh kindly confirm that this was an original thought of his ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 make the stewards earn their paltry wages i say.....they are only there to watch the game for free,they usually get an easy time so its about time they had something useful to do........keep them on their toes. i have to pay a fortune for the privelage of watching sh1te and they swan around watching the game for fvck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I don't like Lowe and definitely don't support him, but I'm don't hate the man either and don't obsess about getting rid of him (although I did in 2004). I don't especially blame him for much in this tenure and pretty much accept the fact we're financially poor and even worse on the pitch. So you see no correlation at all between our current parlous financial position and the fact that our position on the pitch is even worse because of the appointment of a lower league Dutch manager completely out of his depth? I thought that you had the mental capacity to think such things through and arrive at a connection between our relegation during Lowe's first spell here, the further damage done by Wilde, the disunity caused by their return, the bizarre experiment, everything cumlminating in where we are now. If you think that Lowe is not especially blameworthy for all this, then your views are blinkered for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 make the stewards earn their paltry wages i say.....they are only there to watch the game for free,they usually get an easy time so its about time they had something useful to do........keep them on their toes. i have to pay a fortune for the privelage of watching sh1te and they swan around watching the game for fvck all. I don't know whether to take this seriously or not :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Actually, I am getting more angry about this thread. It's starting to appear like Lowe-directed scare-mongering. So, just to eliminate him from suspicion, can nickh kindly confirm that this was an original thought of his ? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I don't know whether to take this seriously or not :confused: take it seriously.......the stewards have it too easy,im not saying you should harm them in anyway,just keep them occupied so they dont get to watch the game. believe it or not there is a big waiting list to become a steward,the list is long because being an SFC steward has been easy up until now and we all know that they are only there to watch the footie for free.as a lot of them acted like complete arseholes on saturday i think its time they started to earn their wages. seeing unfit overweight middle aged men in orange coats trying to run around the stadium to join in the 'fun' was very amusing..........better than watching the sh1te on the pitch imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Lol Is that a yes or a no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I have supported RL fully regardi9ng the financial mess the club is under, and still do but I am moving quickly to the Lowe out camp if he sits on his hands and does nothing regarding the manager and his inept tactics and substitutions. I have heard a couple of other disturbing things regarding Jans tenure that is not good Oh, you are a teeeease! You naughty boy, you! I also signed the OSA but unlike saintwarwick, I don't want a PM. I would find it hard to keep such an important secret to myself. Perhaps you could PM LordswoodSaint and then he could tell me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 The day Lowe closes the Northam will be the day fans take protests to the next level. Hes already ruined the atmosphere by closing the itchen North and as a ST holder,i will make it my duty to get a seat as close to the board members and Wilde and Lowe as possible,where as i will spent the whole game shouting abuse and anti Lowe songs. Anyway if the Northam is shut,you might as well shut the whole ground,as it will be as quiet as a library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I've not responded to this thread up til now as it's laughable. The northam won't be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Close The Northam - and get everyone form Itchen North Corner & Itchen to relocate to The Chapel (of Rest). At least then the team would be attacking an end full of home supporters in the 2nd half. Who are ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Please please please PM me about the rumours about JP are. I've been a firm supporter of his given the constraints on him. I'd be interested if my opinions of him are misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Please please please PM me about the rumours about JP are. I've been a firm supporter of his given the constraints on him. I'd be interested if my opinions of him are misguided. Your opinions of his professional side maynot be misguided!Last post gone........like i said,its a fairly strong rumour not fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 If the fighting between fans and stewards attacked becomes a common occurance, is there a real possibility of closing the Northam? I think that RL has no time for the Northam anyway, would he consider closing the Northam? I believe the season ticket holders can be forced to move under certain circumstances.The stewards could also withdraw their services and so under ground regulations the stand would be closed. Irrelevant as the fans would just sit elsewhere and do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I'm sure a lot of fans that stand in the northam pay per game, to close the stand will be suicidal by Lowe (good idea maybe) and will be a big financial loss as those fans won't sit anywhere else. On the other hand, if they do spread around the ground would the, let's call it 'anarchy', spread along with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Your opinions of his professional side maynot be misguided!Last post gone........like i said,its a fairly strong rumour not fact! Even so, i would be very appreciative if you could fill me in on the strong rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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