What Is Happening To Our Country?

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I assume quite a few more. One of the charges is that some have links to the labour party and they are the ones attempting to widen the scope of the enquiry. Not sure how true that is.

So there is a good chance that these 4 are trying to politicise this as well. Goody.

[whelk]

56 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Because a big part of her job is presiding over the process they are involved in that she has messed up. Her performance in the commons yesterday should have been enough to see her lose her job on its own.

It’s a shame that it has become political. Pathetic by the Tories to try and capitalise.  A cynical view, but some of these victims will be very easy to manipulate. It is pretty obvious Jess Phillips has the more natural empathy with the victims and a track record of concern over Badenoch who pretends she gives a shit. 
It is pity that controversy is there as important to highlight the despicable culture of not being seen as a racist when clear who the perpetrators are. 

[badgerx16]

4 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

So there is a good chance that these 4 are trying to politicise this as well. Goody.

BBC report says that other survivors on the panel support the process and Phillips. I think a lot of the current turmoil is bring driven by one side of the media, prodded on by Kemi doing her best Captain Mainwaring impression.

[tdmickey3]

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Oh my god !!!! How will everyone cope 😉

[hypochondriac]

3 hours ago, whelk said:

It’s a shame that it has become political. Pathetic by the Tories to try and capitalise.  A cynical view, but some of these victims will be very easy to manipulate. It is pretty obvious Jess Phillips has the more natural empathy with the victims and a track record of concern over Badenoch who pretends she gives a shit. 
It is pity that controversy is there as important to highlight the despicable culture of not being seen as a racist when clear who the perpetrators are. 

Interesting. Looks like it's not just political opponents upset at Jess Phillips:

Jess Phillips not planning to quit, I understand, but she’s still under pressure from colleagues. 

A minister tells me they “can’t see how Jess remains”, while a Labour backbench MP says: “I haven't seen her deliver anything apart from loud noise.”

[Sir Ralph]

3 hours ago, whelk said:

It’s a shame that it has become political. Pathetic by the Tories to try and capitalise.  A cynical view, but some of these victims will be very easy to manipulate. It is pretty obvious Jess Phillips has the more natural empathy with the victims and a track record of concern over Badenoch who pretends she gives a shit. 
It is pity that controversy is there as important to highlight the despicable culture of not being seen as a racist when clear who the perpetrators are. 

Ok I agree the Tories are hypocrites - they could have done this inquiry and their criticism holds little weight. I dont think Labour ever wanted this Inquiry, hence the original vote to not do it. If you were a victim of abuse, surely you want justice and to stop abuse over anything else, rather than make a political point. To me, its more likely that those in power (this isnt just the Labour Government but includes them) dont want to confront the nasties that are going to be exposed, having been forced politically to do this inquiry in the first instance. There are a lot of people who are going to come out of this very badly, a bit like the epstein case which clearly has elements of cover up. I can imagine a lot of pressure from various quarters to dilute it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Sir Ralph