What Is Happening To Our Country?

[inspectorfrost]

8 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Protestors all took the knee and asked the Police to do the same for Henry Novak as they did for George Floyd

The police refused. 

Surely even the naive Labour voters can see why huge swathes of the country are annoyed at the double standards? 

 

And this is a very good illustration of the problem. The police should be treating everyone equally, regardless of colour or creed.

The Henry Nowak case is the product of years of excessive governmental political interference into the police force, sorry service. The problem goes far deeper than the competence and attitudes of the individual police officers at the Nowak scene (which left a lot to be desired to say the least)

People were right to protest Floyd's murder but BLM went too far and governments failed to nip it in the bud. Divisions widened.

Police resources taken away from tackling/foiling terrorist attacks and diverted towards arresting people holding Palestine Action signs.

Politicians throwing police officers under the bus when challenging a Jewish man who is clearly trying to antagonize a pro-Palestine rally in London.

The above examples hide an underlying and very ugly problem that is only becoming worse. The police have ended up serving political masters and not the public as a whole, sacrificing equal treatment and the establishment of facts for towing governmental lines that have utterly failed to stand up to counter-productive woke pressure.

Cases like Henry Nowak are the result. The priorities on the ground are all wrong. Basics are not done and innocent lives are lost.

[inspectorfrost]

24 minutes ago, benjii said:

The killer is in prison, and I think three members of his family have been arrested?

 

The mother has been found guilty of assisting an offender, and the brother/father are also facing mulltiple charges

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, inspectorfrost said:

The mother has been found guilty of assisting an offender, and the brother/father are also facing mulltiple charges

Agree with you on your longer post about the politicisation of the police in all directions. Left, right, Zion/Arab - none of it good.

Stephen Lawrence was a watershed, and Henry Nowak should be one as well. 

No excuse for Robinson and Fox though. Arrest them and throw the book at them. 

[The Kraken]

Osvaldorama made it down there in the end, and he took his camera too.

E’s right in the fick of it. And he ain’t fucking sick of it.

 

[badgerx16]

What do they think they will gain from throwing wheelie bins at the Police ?

Is that really the best of the English, what we all need to aspire to ?

Edited 1 hour ago by badgerx16

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

 And it’s not that long since BBC were undercover in Hendon with trainees making Hitler salutes. Let alone the Stephen Lawrence debacle.

We can debate the volume and necessity of the posts (I think it’s slightly too many which could be put into the frontline) but the police racism and corruption of the 1970s, 80s and 90s led to this point. Sadly it’s still going on today https://news.sky.com/story/two-metropolitan-police-officers-guilty-of-gross-misconduct-over-stop-and-search-of-team-gb-athlete-and-her-partner-12992204

 

12 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

It is like the police had already decided he was in the wrong and is probably a racist. A bit of a stretch I know but it is fucking awful, and unsure how the coppers can live with themselves.

if this was a brown skinned man in Harry’s position, half of the county would be on fire right now.

”I don’t think you have mate” is such a disgusting thing to hear in this incident 

From the footage and description of events it seems the Police have changed from accusations of being ‘institutionally racist’ , to being ‘institutionally woke’ .

Edited 1 hour ago by Badger

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Lowe lives in Withington, circa 20 minutes from here, Radley College educated. Barton, Tredworth, Westgate or Springbank (worse than anything in Gloucester) it is not. 

Like Farage, has also made a lot of money at the elite banks and hedge funds.

Nothing wrong with that but men of the working class they are certainly not. 

Springbank ? Not sure how far you’re extending that area, but there are worse here surely ? (PE Way, if you’re including that perhaps and Whaddon near the football ground among others). 

Not sure I’d say worse than some in Gloucester though 

Certainly doesn’t detract from your overall point about Lowe though. 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

1 hour ago, inspectorfrost said:

 

And this is a very good illustration of the problem. The police should be treating everyone equally, regardless of colour or creed.

The Henry Nowak case is the product of years of excessive governmental political interference into the police force, sorry service. The problem goes far deeper than the competence and attitudes of the individual police officers at the Nowak scene (which left a lot to be desired to say the least)

People were right to protest Floyd's murder but BLM went too far and governments failed to nip it in the bud. Divisions widened.

Police resources taken away from tackling/foiling terrorist attacks and diverted towards arresting people holding Palestine Action signs.

Politicians throwing police officers under the bus when challenging a Jewish man who is clearly trying to antagonize a pro-Palestine rally in London.

The above examples hide an underlying and very ugly problem that is only becoming worse. The police have ended up serving political masters and not the public as a whole, sacrificing equal treatment and the establishment of facts for towing governmental lines that have utterly failed to stand up to counter-productive woke pressure.

Cases like Henry Nowak are the result. The priorities on the ground are all wrong. Basics are not done and innocent lives are lost.

Agreed. There should guardrails for the police without political interference or mandated guidelines. 

There should be a framework to follow. Hopefully this sad episode will bring some sense back.

Frustratingly it is being used to push people's agendas. I've watched a few videos and seen some of the reasoning from Robinson. Not sure how you can deport British citizens without revoking thier citizenship. 

The Digwa family have been arrested now as well, so hopefully they'll be charged accordingly. 

Fucking cunt Digwa has really fucked it up for the local community. 

[Mixedkebab]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

Get yourself down there fella. Moral and justified protest, you give it some.

I know it’s a binary world, but it’s possible to be annoyed at the system and more the perps at the same time. But that’s a bit too simple I guess. 

Trying a bit too hard here with all the “fella” and “bird” stuff. Public school education is nothing to be ashamed of. 

[The Kraken]

9 minutes ago, Mixedkebab said:

Trying a bit too hard here with all the “fella” and “bird” stuff. Public school education is nothing to be ashamed of. 

I’ve done both pal. So no idea which one I should be shameful of.

PS I didn’t say ‘bird’. Happy for you to clear that up if you want. If you’re referring to “ghetto bird”, that’s a helicopter….

 

Edited 15 minutes ago by The Kraken