The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Better hope you never get ill, burgled, or your house catches fire. Those non-existent public sector workers won't be there to help you.

Do you have children ? If so, do they go to state schools ? Would you prefer that your waste bins are emptied regularly and the street lights stay on ?

This is a stupid argument. 
 

All of those would exist without the state, they’d just be run a lot better because there would be proper incentives. 

[badgerx16]

12 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

This is a stupid argument. 
 

All of those would exist without the state, they’d just be run a lot better because there would be proper incentives. 

You said you "get zero in return", which is patently untrue.

[aintforever]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

I’m absolutely fine thanks, just sick of paying so much tax and getting zero in return except more taxes and government overreach 

Better get used to feeling sick then because you never get much in return, unless of course you are unlucky enough to get sick.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Here it is

 

"Stare at a wall" that's a girl living a fulfiled live, fuck me 

[whelk]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

"Stare at a wall" that's a girl living a fulfiled live, fuck me 

She seemed intelligent enough and I thought she was probably taking the piss.  Or maybe she’s a Buddhist?

[AlexLaw76]

I wonder how it will be implement?

probably half arsed. All over 16: have to prove their age. Next thing, digital ID comes in to make it all much easier.

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

She seemed intelligent enough and I thought she was probably taking the piss.  Or maybe she’s a Buddhist?

Possibly, although quite funny how she assumed Starmer would bottle it

[whelk]

Just now, Turkish said:

Possibly, although quite funny how she assumed Starmer would bottle it

Who would dare question Starmer’s bottle?!

[Osvaldorama]

33 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I wonder how it will be implement?

probably half arsed. All over 16: have to prove their age. Next thing, digital ID comes in to make it all much easier.

Exactly.. he’s pretty much already said this. 
 

His ‘social media ban for under 16s’ is not a ban for under 16s.

It is a ban on *selected* social media for EVERYONE. Until you identify yourself

And it’s specifically targeting the platforms that show dissent against the current regime. (Blue sky, hive of the left wing and child predators) is absent from the list 

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Exactly.. he’s pretty much already said this. 
 

His ‘social media ban for under 16s’ is not a ban for under 16s.

It is a ban on *selected* social media for EVERYONE. Until you identify yourself

And it’s specifically targeting the platforms that show dissent against the current regime. (Blue sky, hive of the left wing and child predators) is absent from the list 

What's the problem with identifying yourself?

[whelk]

11 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

What's the problem with identifying yourself?

Government overreach presumably means you shouldn’t clamp down on nonces

[Osvaldorama]

42 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

What's the problem with identifying yourself?

 

It’s infringing on freedom. 
 

it’s treating people as guilty, even when innocent. It’s authoritarian, draconian and dangerous. 
 

Make no mistake, Starmer is doing this because he knows the country is growing more and more unhappy with the government. 

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[Osvaldorama]

38 minutes ago, whelk said:

Government overreach presumably means you shouldn’t clamp down on nonces

The nonces are all on Blue Sky, the one app they didnt ban because it suits their political agenda

[Farmer Saint]

11 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

It’s infringing on freedom. 
 

it’s treating people as guilty, even when innocent. It’s authoritarian, draconian and dangerous. 
 

Make no mistake, Starmer is doing this because he knows the country is growing more and more unhappy with the government. 

Is it though? I would suggest if you don't want that don't use social media. It's a hotbed of cunts anyway.

[egg]

17 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

It’s infringing on freedom. 
 

it’s treating people as guilty, even when innocent. It’s authoritarian, draconian and dangerous. 
 

Make no mistake, Starmer is doing this because he knows the country is growing more and more unhappy with the government. 

How's your freedom being impacted by identifying yourself, then doing the thing that you want to do freely? 

How's it dangerous? 

Draconian, not even close, and safeguards aren't authoritarian, they're safeguards. 

[whelk]

15 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

The nonces are all on Blue Sky, the one app they didnt ban because it suits their political agenda

Is this like your pizza paedo ring - run by the Clintons?

[Osvaldorama]

27 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Is it though? I would suggest if you don't want that don't use social media. It's a hotbed of cunts anyway.

Yes. It is. The state wants total control. It is in the people’s best interests to resist this.

Has been proven over and over again throughout history. 
 

Both fascists and communists alike would love a subservient, observed population. Read some George Orwell to see a fictional glimpse of that this is like. 
 

With all of these kinds of things, if you give an inch, they take a mile and then continue to take more and more. 

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[Farmer Saint]

3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Yes. It is. The state wants total control. It is in the people’s best interests to resist this.

Has been proven over and over again throughout history. 
 

Both fascists and communists alike would love a subservient, observed population. Read some George Orwell to see a fictional glimpse of that this is like. 
 

With all of these kinds of things, if you give an inch, they take a mile and then continue to take more and more. 

Again, just don't go on social media. Not sure what freedom's you're missing out on. What are you specifically sad to miss out on once you've identified yourself?

[Osvaldorama]

8 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Again, just don't go on social media. Not sure what freedom's you're missing out on. What are you specifically sad to miss out on once you've identified yourself?

Anonymity online in my eyes is vitally important, especially in a country where we are seeing thousands of arrests per year for criticism of the government.
 

I don’t want to live in a police state. I don’t want to live in a society where people are assumed guilty and not innocent.
 

As I said…This is nothing to do with child safety, and everything to do with silencing political dissent.  

Edited 59 minutes ago by Osvaldorama

[aintforever]

42 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Anonymity online in my eyes is vitally important, especially in a country where we are seeing thousands of arrests per year for criticism of the government.
 

I don’t want to live in a police state. I don’t want to live in a society where people are assumed guilty and not innocent.
 

As I said…This is nothing to do with child safety, and everything to do with silencing political dissent.  

How exactly is Kier Starmer going to stop anyone criticising him on X or Facebook?