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The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

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hypochondriac

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I assume that restore are aware that some of their policies are quite extreme or at least are perceived as such by much if the electorate. Assuming that what Rupert Lowe says is true and they are a serious party looking to get into power, do they have a strategy for trying to appeal to a wider section of the electorate beyond what they currently have at the moment?

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Gloucester Saint

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2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I've just had a peek at their policies. Somehow immigration was responsible for our relegation, as it seems to be behind nearly everything else. Too many good overseas players, beating us every week?

Immigrants hijacking the radio station. And yes, judging by the Hassan Kachloul rumour, overseas players beating us and being a moron towards our own when they ask for a pay rise. 

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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16 minutes ago, whelk said:

Read history mate like what I have

I can see why he wants anonymity on social media - I wouldn't want people to know I was that fucking stupid.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrp1z8n4w2o

Little videos from the Makerfield candidates.

Count Binface looking good.

It re-enforces the view I already had. But if you spend your intro talking about other parties, you come across as weak on your own policies. That was the Greens and the Lib Dems.

Count Bin Face is the only sensible option in an election like this

Osvaldorama

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5 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1jydjr821nt

More unexpected good news - it's as if the media trying to manifest a poor economic outlook isn't working.


These figures are highly manipulated. 

They don’t include fuel costs, council tax, rent, mortgages, etc  

Also, the ONS uses a geometric mean to calculate price changes for many items. This method automatically assumes that when the price of something spikes, consumers are smart and immediately switch to a cheaper alternative.

For example, if beef spikes by 9.4% (as it did in the latest data) and you switch to a cheaper protein, the formula registers a lower inflation impact. While this makes sense for economic modeling, it means the index measures the cost of surviving, not the cost of maintaining the exact lifestyle you had a year ago.

For the every day person, inflation is still ridiculous.
 

(not blaming Labour for this though. Just pointing out that both Labour and the Tories are facetious when they try to use inflation data as a victory.) 

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whelk

whelk

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1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Just like the number of arrests 'for social media activity' in that graphic you posted, yeah?

He spouts guff - fuel is included as is rent in the CPI

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Farmer Saint

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59 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:


These figures are highly manipulated. 

They don’t include fuel costs, council tax, rent, mortgages, etc  

Also, the ONS uses a geometric mean to calculate price changes for many items. This method automatically assumes that when the price of something spikes, consumers are smart and immediately switch to a cheaper alternative.

For example, if beef spikes by 9.4% (as it did in the latest data) and you switch to a cheaper protein, the formula registers a lower inflation impact. While this makes sense for economic modeling, it means the index measures the cost of surviving, not the cost of maintaining the exact lifestyle you had a year ago.

For the every day person, inflation is still ridiculous.
 

(not blaming Labour for this though. Just pointing out that both Labour and the Tories are facetious when they try to use inflation data as a victory.) 

Hmmm, not sure that's correct:

Screenshot_2026-06-17-13-28-32-019_com.android.chrome-edit.thumb.jpg.8a568947730ced487896fa48ec678142.jpg

Products aren't switched that often in relation to consumer habits, but when they are it's usually done on the next cycle - so beef would be measured in this one and chicken will be introduced for the next one.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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Just now, Farmer Saint said:

I think he's been arrested for criticising Keir Starmer...

 

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

I think he's been arrested for criticising Keir Starmer...

People have been warning us for ages, about this sort of thing. These days, if you say you're English, you get arrested and thrown in jail

https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/stewart_lee_comedy_vehicle/videos/22276/XkCBhKs4faI/

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

https://countbinface.substack.com/p/dear-makerfield?r=1uotdk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

I predict:
Count Binface wins
Streeting calls a leadership contest
Count Binface joins Labour
Count Binface becomes Labour leader and PM
Count Binface turns out to really be the intergalactic dictator he talks about.
Count Binface brings down his invasion force, ready to take on the world.
Seeing a chance to Restore Britain to a time of Empire, Rupert Lowe seeks to join Count Binface
Count Binface, having standards and a sense of decency, refuses.
Lowe is hired to work on a galactic class Comms channel, and between world catering.
 

Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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37 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Burnham smashes it in Makerfield.

Bye then Kier 👋

Thanks for....... for........

Actually, what did you achieve?

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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45 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Bye then Kier 👋

Thanks for....... for........

Actually, what did you achieve?

He won a huge majority, but yeah, that's about it. Interesting to see how poor Reform performed when there is someone decent on the ballot form.

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egg

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19 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

He won a huge majority, but yeah, that's about it. Interesting to see how poor Reform performed when there is someone decent on the ballot form.

There was a lot of tactical voting going on there. If that was a normal bye election, not a vote to bin Starmer, Reform would have walked that. If I were Farage, I'd be delighted with that outcome. 

AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Bye then Kier 👋

Thanks for....... for........

Actually, what did you achieve?

It is telling when a man with a bin on his head has more charisma than the PM.

Starmer won a landslide without really getting an increase vote share, then set about immediately implementing 'stuff' that he never campaigned for.

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Lord Duckhunter

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31 minutes ago, egg said:

There was a lot of tactical voting going on there. If that was a normal bye election, not a vote to bin Starmer, Reform would have walked that. If I were Farage, I'd be delighted with that outcome. 

Yeah, they were on a hiding to nothing after campaigning on “vote reform, get Starmer out” during the locals. Pretty tough to turn round and then campaign against the bloke specifically running to boot Starmer out. Even a great campaigner like Nigel will struggle to square that circle.
 

The Manchester mayoral election will be a better barometer, but I suspect tactical voting will have a big influence over that as well. 
 

Interesting that the Tories won Aberdeen from the SNP quite comfortably as well. 

Osvaldorama

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If Starmer does go, his replacement will walk into a bit of a shit show:

 

‘The UK government borrowed £23.3 billion last month, 30 per cent or £5.4 billion higher than a year earlier.
It was also more than the £18.8 billion expected by most economists and the £17.7 billion forecast by the Office for Budget Responsibility, the UK’s independent fiscal watchdog.
 The interest payable on government debt rose to £11.7 billion, the highest ever recorded in any May.’

Osvaldorama

Osvaldorama

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On 17/06/2026 at 12:57, whelk said:

Ok it is clear you don’t understand price indexes 

 

CPI is a flawed metric. 
 

Better off looking at M2 & M4 supply to see how you’re being debased. 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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12 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

If Starmer does go, his replacement will walk into a bit of a shit show:

 

‘The UK government borrowed £23.3 billion last month, 30 per cent or £5.4 billion higher than a year earlier.
It was also more than the £18.8 billion expected by most economists and the £17.7 billion forecast by the Office for Budget Responsibility, the UK’s independent fiscal watchdog.
 The interest payable on government debt rose to £11.7 billion, the highest ever recorded in any May.’

I caught a bit of one of Labour's union paymasters having a moan, a couple of days back.

Basically, their puppet hasn't learned to spend other people's money on their shopping list of what they think their members interests are. Oh, and can he overturn the Supreme Court on the Equalities Act, as that was wrong apparently.

She was less than chuffed when told Burnham had eased off on some views as reality comes closer. They are looking for him to be more amenable. 

 

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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39 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

CPI is a flawed metric. 
 

Better off looking at M2 & M4 supply to see how you’re being debased. 

But you said that the measures used didn't include rent or fuel, which is why it is flawed. However, it does. Why are you changing your argument?

On 17/06/2026 at 12:28, Osvaldorama said:

These figures are highly manipulated. 

They don’t include fuel costs, council tax, rent, mortgages, etc  

 

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ecuk268

ecuk268

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43 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Typical MSM, dismissive of the true voice of the people. And so often, being left to look like a fool. A sad day for the country, with Binface not being elected. 

Disappointed to see that independant candidate Paul Gould didn't get more coverage either.

He got 8 votes.

Lord Duckhunter

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50 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Typical MSM, dismissive of the true voice of the people. And so often, being left to look like a fool. A sad day for the country, with Binface not being elected. 

There was one plank in that clip, and it wasn’t Bin Face. 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

There was one plank in that clip, and it wasn’t Bin Face. 

The Sky News reporter was weirdly hostile and aggressive. Odd tone to strike. 

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

The Sky News reporter was weirdly hostile and aggressive. Odd tone to strike. 

Another scribbler/hack who thinks he's above engaging with a marginal view, gets shown up as the least intelligent in the room. Out of his depth against Count Binface. 😀

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