Solving the Immigration Problem

[Farmer Saint]

25 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I didn’t say he wouldn’t be I said the punishment needs to be proportionate and not politically motivated. In my opinion this is a relatively minor discretion

I assume you have read up on maritime laws. They are, and always have been, extremely punitive. Similar to endangering an aircraft, they are usually very heavy-handed.

Edited 4 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[badgerx16]

9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

You mean like the two years and 3 months for the guy who captained the mega boat with over 100 illegal migrants in it. The same judiciary surely wanted to deter others from risking the lives of hundreds of people but the sentence doesn’t. 

He should get the maximum sentence possible just for being a dangerous, violent, racist, rabble rousing,  cunt.

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

You mean like the two years and 3 months for the guy who captained the mega boat with over 100 illegal migrants in it and risked all their lives and his. The same judiciary surely wanted to deter others from risking the lives of hundreds of people but the sentence doesn’t. If you compare the two, this guy who slashed the boat should even be getting a jail sentence in this context. 

The thing is I could relate to that Clancy woman who got done for the tweet she made. I could imagine that someone who isn't very bright could write something in the heat of the moment and then take it down. I think she was harshly done by and I feel her sentence was disproportionate. I have no such feelings for someone who has gone out in the channel and starts slashing dinghys. You're asking for trouble with that sort of behaviour and the court would need to do something that acts as a deterrent because it's not acceptable to do things like that.

[Sir Ralph]

1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

Does anybody think that, given the right opportunity, Tommo would slash an RIB that still had migrants on board ?

Thats purely speculative. There’s one thing doing what he does and another risking the lives of tens or hundreds of people. If he did try to do this to drown people then he would clearly be a terrible human. All the speculation in the world won’t tell you this

[Sir Ralph]

3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I assume you have read up on maritime laws. They are, and always have been, extremely punitive. Similar to endangering an aircraft, they are usually very heavy-handed.

Including the 2 years and 3 months for the Captain of the mega migrant boat?

Edited 4 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Farmer Saint]

3 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Including the 2 years and 3 months for the Captain of the mega migrant boat?

I think he was one of two, and was 19 years old so that would be taken into account as well. How old is Danny Thommo, and does he have a previous criminal record?

[Mixedkebab]

15 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

It was irony, fuckwit.

Oh dear farmer ! Now this comment is genuine irony. What a plum. 
🫵 😂 

Edited 4 hours ago by Mixedkebab

[Sir Ralph]

10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I think he was one of two, and was 19 years old so that would be taken into account as well. How old is Danny Thommo, and does he have a previous criminal record?

They are all considerations in sentencing but the captain was risking the lives of over 100 people working for criminal gangs illegally smuggling people across borders. The question would be if what this Thompson guy did is comparable or worse. To me the answer is pretty clear

Edited 4 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Farmer Saint]

2 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

They are all considerations in sentencing but the captain was risking the lives of over 100 people working for criminal gangs illegally smuggling people across borders. The question would be if what this Thompson guy did is comparable or worse. To me the answer is pretty clear

Agreed, but you have to take the other things into account, as well as making an example of him as he posted himself doing it to thousands, and perhaps millions, of people. That makes a huge difference and they will need to make an example of him otherwise every Tom, Dick and Harry will be doing it.

My guess is 6 to 10 years.

[tdmickey3]

37 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

That’s not a response to justify the generic comment you made. From this is assume you don’t disagree with me. 

Boring

[tdmickey3]

26 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Does anybody think that, given the right opportunity, Tommo would slash an RIB that still had migrants on board ?

Yes and lots would applaud it

[The Kraken]

30 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

My guess is 6 to 10 years.

I doubt he'll get 6-10 months.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

I didn’t say he wouldn’t be I said the punishment needs to be proportionate and not politically motivated. In my opinion this is a relatively minor discretion

Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean?

In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison.

I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed?

[Farmer Saint]

40 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I doubt he'll get 6-10 months.

2 tier policing.

[Osvaldorama]

 

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[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean?

In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison.

I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed?

Cut and wet, surely ?

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

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Presumably that is now 781 people being processed, snd liable to be removed.

[Osvaldorama]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

Presumably that is now 781 people being processed, snd liable to be removed.

781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? 

[badgerx16]

Just now, Osvaldorama said:

781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? 

"Treated like Royalty" and "veterans treated like scum" - don't be such an easily manipulated simpleton.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean?

In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison.

I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed?

Cut and wet in this surely?

When was this crime moved to being prison from being hung from the yard arm? Bah!

At least make prison be that boat that was earmarked to hold migrants, keeping both the nautical and migration themes.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Holmes_and_Watson
Gasp! sniped by badger for my opening line!

[Farmer Saint]

10 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? 

Christ almighty...

[Osvaldorama]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

"Treated like Royalty" and "veterans treated like scum" - don't be such an easily manipulated simpleton.

Can’t handle the truth? 

[Farmer Saint]

6 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Cut and wet in this surely?

When was this crime moved to being prison from being hung from the yard arm? Bah!

At least make prison be that boat that was earmarked to hold migrants, keeping both the nautical and migration themes.

 

Bibby Stockholm? Luxury barge.

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Can’t handle the truth? 

Rather I smell social media bullshit.

[Farmer Saint]

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[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean?

In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison.

I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed?

Yes I would. If you can’t tell the difference between sinking a ship and slashing a dinghy with one person who stepped onto another boat I can’t help you with that rationale.

God forbid one of your family members turns over a kayak of their mates when out and it sinks. 10 year minimum

[rallyboy]

What does the plucky rib-stabber Tommo need us to pay for first, legal advice or a new boat?

 

I think we're going to need a bigger collection bucket. 🦈

[badgerx16]

34 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

What does the plucky rib-stabber Tommo need us to pay for first, legal advice or a new boat?

 

I think we're going to need a bigger collection bucket. 🦈

I can hope.....

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

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Get in! Just yesterday they were saying that Russia were making things seem bleak here. But look at that! Record breaking! Take that Putin!