Farmer Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: I didn’t say he wouldn’t be I said the punishment needs to be proportionate and not politically motivated. In my opinion this is a relatively minor discretion I assume you have read up on maritime laws. They are, and always have been, extremely punitive. Similar to endangering an aircraft, they are usually very heavy-handed. Edited 8 hours ago by Farmer Saint 1
badgerx16 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: You mean like the two years and 3 months for the guy who captained the mega boat with over 100 illegal migrants in it. The same judiciary surely wanted to deter others from risking the lives of hundreds of people but the sentence doesn’t. He should get the maximum sentence possible just for being a dangerous, violent, racist, rabble rousing, cunt. 3 1
hypochondriac Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: You mean like the two years and 3 months for the guy who captained the mega boat with over 100 illegal migrants in it and risked all their lives and his. The same judiciary surely wanted to deter others from risking the lives of hundreds of people but the sentence doesn’t. If you compare the two, this guy who slashed the boat should even be getting a jail sentence in this context. The thing is I could relate to that Clancy woman who got done for the tweet she made. I could imagine that someone who isn't very bright could write something in the heat of the moment and then take it down. I think she was harshly done by and I feel her sentence was disproportionate. I have no such feelings for someone who has gone out in the channel and starts slashing dinghys. You're asking for trouble with that sort of behaviour and the court would need to do something that acts as a deterrent because it's not acceptable to do things like that. 1
Sir Ralph Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: Does anybody think that, given the right opportunity, Tommo would slash an RIB that still had migrants on board ? Thats purely speculative. There’s one thing doing what he does and another risking the lives of tens or hundreds of people. If he did try to do this to drown people then he would clearly be a terrible human. All the speculation in the world won’t tell you this
Sir Ralph Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: I assume you have read up on maritime laws. They are, and always have been, extremely punitive. Similar to endangering an aircraft, they are usually very heavy-handed. Including the 2 years and 3 months for the Captain of the mega migrant boat? Edited 8 hours ago by Sir Ralph
Farmer Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Including the 2 years and 3 months for the Captain of the mega migrant boat? I think he was one of two, and was 19 years old so that would be taken into account as well. How old is Danny Thommo, and does he have a previous criminal record?
Mixedkebab Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 15 hours ago, Farmer Saint said: It was irony, fuckwit. Oh dear farmer ! Now this comment is genuine irony. What a plum. 🫵 😂 Edited 7 hours ago by Mixedkebab
Sir Ralph Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: I think he was one of two, and was 19 years old so that would be taken into account as well. How old is Danny Thommo, and does he have a previous criminal record? They are all considerations in sentencing but the captain was risking the lives of over 100 people working for criminal gangs illegally smuggling people across borders. The question would be if what this Thompson guy did is comparable or worse. To me the answer is pretty clear Edited 7 hours ago by Sir Ralph
Farmer Saint Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: They are all considerations in sentencing but the captain was risking the lives of over 100 people working for criminal gangs illegally smuggling people across borders. The question would be if what this Thompson guy did is comparable or worse. To me the answer is pretty clear Agreed, but you have to take the other things into account, as well as making an example of him as he posted himself doing it to thousands, and perhaps millions, of people. That makes a huge difference and they will need to make an example of him otherwise every Tom, Dick and Harry will be doing it. My guess is 6 to 10 years. 1
tdmickey3 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: That’s not a response to justify the generic comment you made. From this is assume you don’t disagree with me. Boring
tdmickey3 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 26 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Does anybody think that, given the right opportunity, Tommo would slash an RIB that still had migrants on board ? Yes and lots would applaud it
The Kraken Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: My guess is 6 to 10 years. I doubt he'll get 6-10 months.
Weston Super Saint Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said: I didn’t say he wouldn’t be I said the punishment needs to be proportionate and not politically motivated. In my opinion this is a relatively minor discretion Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean? In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison. I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed? 1
Farmer Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 40 minutes ago, The Kraken said: I doubt he'll get 6-10 months. 2 tier policing.
badgerx16 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean? In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison. I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed? Cut and wet, surely ? 1
badgerx16 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said: New high score 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Presumably that is now 781 people being processed, snd liable to be removed. 1
Osvaldorama Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, badgerx16 said: Presumably that is now 781 people being processed, snd liable to be removed. 781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? 3 5
badgerx16 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Osvaldorama said: 781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? "Treated like Royalty" and "veterans treated like scum" - don't be such an easily manipulated simpleton. 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean? In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison. I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed? Cut and wet in this surely? When was this crime moved to being prison from being hung from the yard arm? Bah! At least make prison be that boat that was earmarked to hold migrants, keeping both the nautical and migration themes. Edited 5 hours ago by Holmes_and_Watson Gasp! sniped by badger for my opening line!
Farmer Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: 781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? Christ almighty...
Osvaldorama Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: "Treated like Royalty" and "veterans treated like scum" - don't be such an easily manipulated simpleton. Can’t handle the truth? 1
Farmer Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Cut and wet in this surely? When was this crime moved to being prison from being hung from the yard arm? Bah! At least make prison be that boat that was earmarked to hold migrants, keeping both the nautical and migration themes. Bibby Stockholm? Luxury barge.
badgerx16 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Can’t handle the truth? Rather I smell social media bullshit. 1
Sir Ralph Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Proportionate to the crime I assume you mean? In which case, if the charge of "destroying ships" is proven - and I'm going to stick my neck out here and say being filmed taking a knife to a ship and destroying it, seems fairly cut and dried - then the crime carries a tariff of up to life in prison. I assume you wouldn't complain if he got, say 10 years, as that would be proportionate to the crime he committed? Yes I would. If you can’t tell the difference between sinking a ship and slashing a dinghy with one person who stepped onto another boat I can’t help you with that rationale. God forbid one of your family members turns over a kayak of their mates when out and it sinks. 10 year minimum 1
rallyboy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago What does the plucky rib-stabber Tommo need us to pay for first, legal advice or a new boat? I think we're going to need a bigger collection bucket. 🦈 1
badgerx16 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 34 minutes ago, rallyboy said: What does the plucky rib-stabber Tommo need us to pay for first, legal advice or a new boat? I think we're going to need a bigger collection bucket. 🦈 I can hope.....
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: New high score 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Get in! Just yesterday they were saying that Russia were making things seem bleak here. But look at that! Record breaking! Take that Putin! 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said: Yes I would. If you can’t tell the difference between sinking a ship and slashing a dinghy with one person who stepped onto another boat I can’t help you with that rationale. God forbid one of your family members turns over a kayak of their mates when out and it sinks. 10 year minimum Perhaps start a petition if you're unhappy with the charges the police have made against him? The CPS could still decide there's not enough evidence for the charges to hold. Do I get to choose which one of my family members gets the 10 years minimum?
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Get in! Just yesterday they were saying that Russia were making things seem bleak here. But look at that! Record breaking! Take that Putin! Not only that, but imagine all the doctors and nurses that arrived in just one day. At this rate the NHS will be fully staffed by Xmas. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, badgerx16 said: Presumably that is now 781 people being processed, snd liable to be removed. 1 in 1 out, yes?
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said: 🤣 Is he being charged with abandoning the wreck under the wreck removal convention act 2011? Would pour salt into the wounds 1 1
badgerx16 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: 1 in 1 out, yes? 781 stopped in France for preference.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Not only that, but imagine all the doctors and nurses that arrived in just one day. At this rate the NHS will be fully staffed by Xmas. A welcoming Britain is a prosperous Britain. 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 32 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: 1 in 1 out, yes? And 1 of those is ironically Tommo 28 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Is he being charged with abandoning the wreck under the wreck removal convention act 2011? Would pour salt into the wounds Sadly forgetting to take his passport on his boating trip, Tommo was put into an inhospitable processing unit, before being sent to Albania, under a migrant transfer system. "Being part of a ruthless, inhumane migration policy, is what he would have wanted," sniffed one supporter into a flag. 1
tdmickey3 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: 781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? As barking mad as ever, if you weren’t so vile I would feel sorry for you being so utterly stupid
AlexLaw76 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: As barking mad as ever, if you weren’t so vile I would feel sorry for you being so utterly stupid They'll be housed, fed, clothed, given vouchers, money, sim cards.......meanwhile, homeless will stay homeless. Edited 2 hours ago by AlexLaw76
badgerx16 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: They'll be housed, fed, clothed, given vouchers, money, sim cards.......meanwhile, homeless will stay homeless. Sadly, society isn't perfect, but I'd rather the boat people were housed and fed than left to drown. Edited 1 hour ago by badgerx16 1
aintforever Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: 781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? “unlimited sums of money” 😂
benjii Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: 781 people given unlimited sums of money and treated like royalty, whilst our own tax paying citizens and veterans are treated like scum, you mean? "Unlimited sums". No.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, benjii said: "Unlimited sums". No. This is actually true. It turns out that migration policies only work if you turn them into billionaires, when they strop off back abroad, blaming the high taxation Labour party. Just Google "Ratcliffe Policy" for more info. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 58 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: They'll be housed, fed, clothed, given vouchers, money, sim cards.......meanwhile, homeless will stay homeless. Maybe you should get your benefit cheat mates to give their money to the homeless? 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Maybe you should get your benefit cheat mates to give their money to the homeless? obsessed....
Farmer Saint Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: obsessed.... Not my fault your missus is a wrong-un.
AlexLaw76 Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago Just now, Farmer Saint said: Not my fault your missus is a wrong-un. Ahhh, bless Still annoyed because your thirst for personal details of random women came to a dead end.
Farmer Saint Posted 45 minutes ago Posted 45 minutes ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Ahhh, bless Still annoyed because your thirst for personal details of random women came to a dead end. https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud Here's the place to report them, totally anonymous. Come on, do the right thing you pussy. 😘 Edited 45 minutes ago by Farmer Saint 1
Farmer Saint Posted 44 minutes ago Posted 44 minutes ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Ahhh, bless Still annoyed because your thirst for personal details of random women came to a dead end. https://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news/24319016.met-police-officer-alex-law-named-sex-abuse-conviction/ We all know about you...probably why you tried to sign my email address up to kiddie porn. Edited 42 minutes ago by Farmer Saint
tdmickey3 Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: They'll be housed, fed, clothed, given vouchers, money, sim cards.......meanwhile, homeless will stay homeless. See below 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Sadly, society isn't perfect, but I'd rather the boat people were housed and fed than left to drown.
AlexLaw76 Posted 42 minutes ago Posted 42 minutes ago Just now, Farmer Saint said: https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud Here's the place to report them, totally anonymous. Come on, do the right thing you pussy. 😘 You are a fucking weirdo mate. I do not recall even replying to any of your posts but you can't help yourself. More so when you were DEMANDING personal details of a random single woman from a stranger on a football forums, even using a burner email account to get these details. All I did was say no and left it at that and left your posts alone. Quite chilling when you look it at like that. 1
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