The Reform Thread

[Sir Ralph]

28 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

So Farage has already u-turned on yesterday's back-of-an-envelope excuse for an immigration policy, his madcap economics have again been exposed as unworkable fantasy, he's had a ringing endorsement from Islamic extremists and instead of doing the job we pay him for, he's busily grifting on TV, shouting out mad stuff and promoting his own fossil fuel backers.

The stupid people really need to wake up, the conman is conning them.

Again.

“The Art of U Turning - My Life as a Prime Minister.”

The new book by me, Sir Kier Starmer, due to be released next week (or maybe the week after, or maybe next year or maybe I won’t release it….crap what should I do)

Edited August 28 by Sir Ralph

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

“The Art of U Turning - My Life as a Prime Minister.”

The new book by me, Sir Kier Starmer, due to be released next week (or maybe the week after, or maybe next year or maybe I won’t release it….crap what should I do)

The same for every PM/Politician that has ben in office, what is your point?

[Sir Ralph]

18 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

The same for every PM/Politician that has ben in office, what is your point?

I agree with your point about politicians generally. You can call out Farage for U-turning (if that's what he has done). I haven't read his most recent policies or the feedback on the policies so cant say if that is what he has done.

The point being is that there are lots of defenders of the current Government on here, who will happily point out the issues of other politicians. In terms of u-turning Starmer and Cabinet are top dogs and worst offenders, so criticising other politicians (which you can obviously do) needs to be seen in this context. As the saying goes, first take the plank out of your own eye and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from anothers.

I'll look forward to your critique of the current Government's next u-turn on this basis. 

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[tdmickey3]

2 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I agree with your point about politicians generally. You can call out Farage for U-turning (if that's what he has done). I haven't read his most recent policies or the feedback on the policies so cant say if that is what he has done.

The point being is that there are lots of defenders of the current Government on here, who will happily point out the issues of other politicians. In terms of u-turning Starmer and Cabinet are top dogs, so criticising other politicians (which you can obviously do) needs to be seen in this context.

I'll look forward to your critique of the current Government's next u-turn on this basis. 

You have a selective memory (deliberate i suspect) the tory swivels hold that title

[Sir Ralph]

6 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

You have a selective memory (deliberate i suspect) the tory swivels hold that title

I acknowledge the Tories have u-turned and made some bad decisions in power. Like we both said, all politicians do u-turn unfortunately. Are you seriously taking the line that in one year of Government, the Tories u-turned more than this Government in its first year though? Really? I'm happy to be proven wrong by the way.

Every Labour U-turn after Starmer reverses welfare cuts | The Independent

Edited August 28 by Sir Ralph

[badgerx16]

Reform run Nottinghamshire County Council have banned the local newspaper and the Local Democracy Reporting Service from talking to any of their councillors.

[Weston Super Saint]

15 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Reform run Nottinghamshire County Council have banned the local newspaper and the Local Democracy Reporting Service from talking to any of their councillors.

It's the only way to guarantee sense.

[sadoldgit]

On 27/08/2025 at 13:03, Lord Duckhunter said:

“Vote reform & get rid of 9 Pinters”

Not quite “take back control”, but a decent pitch to the masses. 
 

 

Yet another charmless and ignorant post from a poster whose opinions started “woke” in the UK.

Given that you still get nocturnal emissions dreaming about Margaret “Hatchet Face” Thatcher, perhaps best stop referring to women (that wouldn’t touch you with a barge pole) as “9 Pinters.”

Anyway, what are you doing here? Should you be out hanging St.George’s flags from lamp posts with your buddies?

[Lord Duckhunter]

Let’s hope Nigel sorts the police out & stood their time wasting as well. 
 

 

[Sir Ralph]

25 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Yet another charmless and ignorant post from a poster whose opinions started “woke” in the UK.

Given that you still get nocturnal emissions dreaming about Margaret “Hatchet Face” Thatcher, perhaps best stop referring to women (that wouldn’t touch you with a barge pole) as “9 Pinters.”

Anyway, what are you doing here? Should you be out hanging St.George’s flags from lamp posts with your buddies?

 

Edited August 28 by Sir Ralph

[sadoldgit]

So the self proclaimed champions of free speech don’t actually practice free speech.

https://news.sky.com/story/richard-tice-defends-reform-ban-on-local-newspaper-in-free-speech-row-13420826

[badgerx16]

8 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

So the self proclaimed champions of free speech don’t actually practice free speech.

https://news.sky.com/story/richard-tice-defends-reform-ban-on-local-newspaper-in-free-speech-row-13420826

This is not an attack on free speech against the press, though it does try to silence the Reform councillors. These reporters can still print whatever they want sbout the council, they will just not be talking directly to Reform members. There are still the opposition councillors to feed them stories, and there are bound to be 'well placed sources' leaking information from members of the majority or officers, and all Council minutes and decisions still have to be released into the public domain.

Keeping their nutters out of the spotlight and muting their bleatings is probably in the public interest.

An attack on free epeech would be to try to impose an injunction on these news outlets.

Edited Saturday at 07:49 by badgerx16

[Lord Duckhunter]

Reform councillors making a massive difference locally. Well done, what a  fine pair…

 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

Pretty clear what the old men voted for there.

[tdmickey3]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Reform councillors making a massive difference locally. Well done, what a  fine pair…

 

 

Thought you would call them 9 pinters

[Lord Duckhunter]

22 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Thought you would call them 9 pinters

The blonde is about 4 or 5 pints, the other one would a niner,  but she’s got a couple of redeeming features. I’d say 6 Pinter….

 

That’s not the point though, people need to be kept abreast of what Reform are doing locally….

Edited Sunday at 16:03 by Lord Duckhunter

[benjii]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The blonde is about 4 or 5 pints, the other one would a niner,  but she’s got a couple of redeeming features. I’d say 6 Pinter….

 

That’s not the point though, people need to be kept abreast of what Reform are doing locally….

Sorry, just a minute.

Are you saying the old boiler on the left (not the one with the bazookas), is a potential 4-pinter?

[Gloucester Saint]

Two of Reform’s finest in action https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27xj85y5lo

[badgerx16]

I'm screwed, I actually agree with Tice on something;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwywkn9pr0o

 

HELP !!!!!

[whelk]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

I'm screwed, I actually agree with Tice on something;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwywkn9pr0o

 

HELP !!!!!

Similar to PIP - there isn’t the provision for these things to explode in numbers. Has to be a mindset change as they cannot be afforded.

[spyinthesky]

5 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I'm screwed, I actually agree with Tice on something;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwywkn9pr0o

 

HELP !!!!!

Ironically a friend of mine was telling me about a neighbour who seems to have money for various body 'artwork' and other 'improvements' and drives round in a Land Rover supplied under the Motobility scheme.
She has never worked in the 5 years they have been neighbours.
However,she seems to go out in the car most mornings just after her son goes off to a special school in a Taxi.

[Gloucester Saint]

10 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I'm screwed, I actually agree with Tice on something;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwywkn9pr0o

 

HELP !!!!!

Unlike Farage and Badenoch, Tice speaks sensibly on this sensitive issue. Pragmatism, no stigmatising the kids themselves, no cultural swipes at neurodiverse adults, just stating the growing anecdotal evidence that there is an unsustainable level of claims, some of the claims are excessive and means testing to prioritise cases is reasonable.

[whelk]

19 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Unlike Farage and Badenoch, Tice speaks sensibly on this sensitive issue. Pragmatism, no stigmatising the kids themselves, no cultural swipes at neurodiverse adults, just stating the growing anecdotal evidence that there is an unsustainable level of claims, some of the claims are excessive and means testing to prioritise cases is reasonable.

System is so broken. So many SEND cases denied by councils hoping to save money but 90+% are won on appeal. Mental figure that basically over 9 out of 10 claims are valid are being turned down initially. All the resources and delays that this entail increasing costs on much needed resources. The issue is obviously not simple to solve but councils worried about budgets more than suitable (expensive) education  and hoping they can go to mainstream schools and parents fully aware their children will suffer significantly in mainstream schools challenging to go to special schools.