Tonda Eckert

[Saint_clark]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

I’d back him. He’s turned us around completely , and the “cheating” has made zero difference in that.  

Did he? We were shit under him initially I thought, then suddenly turned it around. Can we be sure that didn't have anything to do with rule breaking now?

[Osvaldorama]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

Did he? We were shit under him initially I thought, then suddenly turned it around. Can we be sure that didn't have anything to do with rule breaking now?

Very confident imo. 
 

if all our goals came from set pieces, fine. But it’s not been that. We’ve been fantastic and battered teams. 
 

 

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

Very confident imo. 
 

if all our goals came from set pieces, fine. But it’s not been that. We’ve been fantastic and battered teams. 
 

 

We have scored more goals from set pieces than any other side in the championship haven't we?

[Middlewordie]

Surely Tonda is off to Man City? Systematic rule breaking in the big time!

[revolution saint]

8 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Did he? We were shit under him initially I thought, then suddenly turned it around. Can we be sure that didn't have anything to do with rule breaking now?

If winning six out of the first seven is shit then I'd quite like another shit manager.

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, revolution saint said:

If winning six out of the first seven is shit then I'd quite like another shit manager.

Oh yeah he came in just before an easy run in, I remember now.

[S-Clarke]

9 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Did he? We were shit under him initially I thought, then suddenly turned it around. Can we be sure that didn't have anything to do with rule breaking now?

His start was strong. We had a bad spell during December > January, but picked up after that.

[Pamplemousse]

We might not have a choice of keeping him if the FA take action 

[Willo of Whiteley]

He obviously had something about him, but this is just reckless stupidity or naivety.

Either way I bet those players opinions have changed.

[Sheaf Saint]

9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

His start was strong. We had a bad spell during December > January, but picked up after that.

Results wise, yes. But did you watch those games? Apart from Charlton, we were shocking and lucky to win any of them really.

[S-Clarke]

46 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Results wise, yes. But did you watch those games? Apart from Charlton, we were shocking and lucky to win any of them really.

 Oh totally, not saying it from a performance level. I was pretty vocal over the QPR game in particular, we were a mess. I was expecting and hoping we'd use the international break to put in a 'proper' manager, but it never materialised, we allowed him to continue, maybe with some help - no comment -  and Spors got his wish to make him manager. It feels more orchestrated the more you look back.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

His start was strong. We had a bad spell during December > January, but picked up after that.

Coinciding with a flu outbreak amongst our interns? 🙂 

[Saint86]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

I’d back him. He’s turned us around completely , and the “cheating” has made zero difference in that.  

It's academic, the FA will ban him. We're going to be destroyed over this.

[trousers]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

why are our fans saying this, we cannot keep him, he has admitted to cheating. He will likely be banned anyway.

Hasn't he admitted to not realising that he was cheating...? #subtledifference 

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

Hasn't he admitted to not realising that he was cheating...? #subtledifference 

It's a bit of a weak defence if I'm honest, unless he was asleep when Bielsa did it. I don't buy that one, and even if it is genuine then it's embarrassing and shows up how weak the setup has been around him.

[Saint Paul C]

TBH, It's desperately poor internal governance that's allowed Tonda and his coaches to carry on any suspect "spying" activities. 

 The club exec's should have said - "sorry team, not allowed. Needs to stop immediately.  "

That's a failure of corporate governance, and those on the exec team, COO, CEO etc.. need to wear the responsibility - and lose their jobs as a consequence. 

[bangkoksaint]

Was Spors the one that instigated spying and knew that if TE was appointed then he’d be happy taking that course of action to gain a sporting advantage? If so then it’s little wonder he was so keen to get him appointed 

[Pamplemousse]

He has to be sacked, we need a completely fresh start to rebuild our reputation, and we would never get that if he remains in charge. 

[Farmer Saint]

6 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

We have scored more goals from set pieces than any other side in the championship haven't we?

Why's that matter, they're our set pieces, not the other teams?

[Farmer Saint]

4 hours ago, Saint Paul C said:

TBH, It's desperately poor internal governance that's allowed Tonda and his coaches to carry on any suspect "spying" activities. 

 The club exec's should have said - "sorry team, not allowed. Needs to stop immediately.  "

That's a failure of corporate governance, and those on the exec team, COO, CEO etc.. need to wear the responsibility - and lose their jobs as a consequence. 

This - I think the issue is at Parsons level (and probably Spors) rather than at a first year Manager who has engaged in this at previous clubs due to it not being against the rules.

Edited 57 minutes ago by Farmer Saint

[Farmer Saint]

4 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

It's a bit of a weak defence if I'm honest, unless he was asleep when Bielsa did it. I don't buy that one, and even if it is genuine then it's embarrassing and shows up how weak the setup has been around him.

He was 25 and an assistant coach at U17 at Bayern Munich when Bielsa did it.

Why would he follow that story?

[Saint_clark]

17 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Why's that matter, they're our set pieces, not the other teams?

We might have been benefitting from knowing how teams were lining up to defend set pieces. 

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

We might have been benefitting from knowing how teams were lining up to defend set pieces. 

But they tend to react to the attacking team.

[Eric The Red]

6 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Results wise, yes. But did you watch those games? Apart from Charlton, we were shocking and lucky to win any of them really.

Well I watched all of those games and we were not 'shocking' though they did follow a similar pattern. Us dominant first half, often several goals up then struggling to see out the games as comfortably as we should, possibly caused by a lack of fitness 

 Only ones that varied significantly were the first (QPR) where we were just desperately anxious and Millwall who were probably just better than the other teams we played.