Tonda Eckert

[SambaMaverick]

3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

I’d back him. He’s turned us around completely , and the “cheating” has made zero difference in that.  

This isn't something that's going to go away, he'd get dogs abuse up and down the country for at least the rest of this year and the club would be effectively asking fans to excuse and defend a cheat.

It would also be the first stick used to beat him with if we are crap next season.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

He can't stay after this. Get him gone asap and start working on his replacement.

Very sadly. My eyebrows were raised though when he told a reporter that he could not talk about it now but would have lots to say about it later. Could he have some revelations for us that indicate that he was not the one pulling the strings?

 

[S-Clarke]

There's no way he can stay. This will be referred to the FA and he'll likely be blocked from coaching in England.

It feels very extreme as he hasn't set out to kill anyone, he was just an inexperienced idiot. But that's where we're at.

[Baird of the land]

It would be idiotic to sack a manager who has turned the club round imo.

[Harry_SFC]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

There's no way he can stay. This will be referred to the FA and he'll likely be blocked from coaching in England.

It feels very extreme as he hasn't set out to kill anyone, he was just an inexperienced idiot. But that's where we're at.

At the end of the day Spors has to carry the can. He appointed him and they are close. Unfortunately both will be gone now. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Baird of the land said:

It would be idiotic to sack a manager who has turned the club round imo.

He cannot stay regardless. You know this, surely.

[pimpin4rizeal]

6 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

Exactly. We've been punished enough as it is. The last thing we want to do is punish ourselves even more by getting rid of such a good manager. That would be stupid.

Exactly this . We should back him .. I’m sure there would be plenty of other clubs sone bigger then us that would be happy to take him . . Seems harsh to turn on him just cos the sanction didn’t go our way .. everyone thought it was all banter and games until today 

[Teamsaint1]

The only way I can see forward for the club at this point is for the owner to appoint asap somebody high profile, at a very high position, who is thought to be of the very highest integrity, to oversee a process to put things right in terms of reputation, how we operate and so on. 

should be a doddle finding somebody !!
 

Suggestions on a postcard.  
I wonder what Franny Benali thinks of all this ? 

Edited 1 hour ago by Teamsaint1

[Fabrice29]

Just now, Baird of the land said:

It would be idiotic to sack a manager who has turned the club round imo.

He’s getting banned ffs let alone sacked. Can’t believe we went down the route of ignorance too. 

Clean break needed.

[Sheaf Saint]

9 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Probably, media will force out hand, but it’s a bad decision IMO. 

 

Has taken us ages to find a good manager 

Not just the media though. He might get a hefty ban by the FA meaning we'll have no choice but to replace him.

I can't wait to hear what it was he was itching to say about the matter in his interview after the second leg.

[Fabrice29]

Biggest worry for me is we now go down the route of PR face saving and MLT and Parsons will be front and centre of everything going forward. Awful thoughts. 

[The Wyvern]

He’s clearly an excellent coach and we’re not going to get better than him so as things currently stand let’s keep him. That said, let’s see what comes out over the next few days and if his position really does become impossible. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Fabrice29 said:

Biggest worry for me is we now go down the route of PR face saving and MLT and Parsons will be front and centre of everything going forward. Awful thoughts. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, The Wyvern said:

He’s clearly an excellent coach and we’re not going to get better than him so as things currently stand let’s keep him. That said, let’s see what comes out over the next few days and if his position really does become impossible. 

why are our fans saying this, we cannot keep him, he has admitted to cheating. He will likely be banned anyway.

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Exactly this . We should back him .. I’m sure there would be plenty of other clubs sone bigger then us that would be happy to take him . . Seems harsh to turn on him just cos the sanction didn’t go our way .. everyone thought it was all banter and games until today 

No, we really didn't. In spite of all the ghillie suits and binoculars, this was always a serious accusation with serious repercussions. We've basically been cheating to win games all season, Tonda wont be respected by anyone outside the club and probably not by a fair few of our own players. He's got to go.

[benjii]

He's clearly fucked up, but this comes down to Sport Republic ineptitude, as ever.

[The Wyvern]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

why are our fans saying this, we cannot keep him, he has admitted to cheating. He will likely be banned anyway.

Which bit of my post do you not understand?

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, The Wyvern said:

Which bit of my post do you not understand?

it is impossible already, unless this is all one big misunderstanding. 

He will be gone in the very near future.

[The Wyvern]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

it is impossible already, unless this is all one big misunderstanding. 

He will be gone in the very near future.

Which bit of my post did you not understand? 

[sadoldgit]

7 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Not just the media though. He might get a hefty ban by the FA meaning we'll have no choice but to replace him.

I can't wait to hear what it was he was itching to say about the matter in his interview after the second leg.

Given what has been dished out so far, any further sanctions would be pouring salt into the wound. Still, given that I didn’t think expulsion was remotely possible, what do I know?

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, The Wyvern said:

Which bit of my post did you not understand? 

His position is impossible, no need to wait

 

Happy to help

[Fabrice29]

4 minutes ago, benjii said:

He's clearly fucked up, but this comes down to Sport Republic ineptitude, as ever.

Doesn’t though, does it.

[Fabrice29]

7 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

He’s clearly an excellent coach and we’re not going to get better than him so as things currently stand let’s keep him. That said, let’s see what comes out over the next few days and if his position really does become impossible. 

Would love to watch Tonda walk into the dressing room trying to galvanise a squad that’s he’s just cost a chance at the PL for next season to be fair.

 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

Did Bielsa go after his spying incident? No, he just didn't give a shit.

Tonda should do the same. Use this setback to motivate the team next year and prove the spying had nothing to do with our success.

[Willo of Whiteley]

The players a begging up Tonda over the last couple of months.

Would you feel duped if you were a player or still loving him?

[The Wyvern]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

His position is impossible, no need to wait

 

Happy to help

Not for me it’s not. Which is what I said in my original post. Not very difficult to understand is it. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, The Wyvern said:

Not for me it’s not. Which is what I said in my original post. Not very difficult to understand is it. 

it is difficult to understand as it is pretty certain he wont be our manager in weeks few.

He will be banned if not sacked. He has seemingly admitted to multiple counts of cheating and claiming he was not aware it was wrong. 

[Baird of the land]

9 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

No, we really didn't. In spite of all the ghillie suits and binoculars, this was always a serious accusation with serious repercussions. We've basically been cheating to win games all season, Tonda wont be respected by anyone outside the club and probably not by a fair few of our own players. He's got to go.

Clubs will very much respect his ability. If he’s not banned, he’d be quickly in another job if we cut him loose. 

[Badger]

Just now, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Did Bielsa go after his spying incident? No, he just didn't give a shit.

Tonda should do the same. Use this setback to motivate the team next year and prove the spying had nothing to do with our success.

Bielsa had a stronger track record before his time at Leeds.

At the moment I’d like Tonda to stay and fulfill his potential with us. Unfortunately that seems unlikely.Likelihood is that the decision will be taken out of our hands by a suspension. 

[Sparkkyy]

28 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

It would be idiotic to sack a manager who has turned the club round imo.

By cheating 

[Patrick Bateman]

30 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

It would be idiotic to sack a manager who has turned the club round imo.

Really? It's clear he IS a cheat or, allowed it to happen. Has to go, they all do. 

[Ekelund]

15 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Not for me it’s not. Which is what I said in my original post. Not very difficult to understand is it. 

All we heard from the players was how specific he was. How if he set up for the game it would always come off. Attention to detail they called it… gutted

[Saint86]

32 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Biggest worry for me is we now go down the route of PR face saving and MLT and Parsons will be front and centre of everything going forward. Awful thoughts. 

Parsons should be the 2nd one out the door, after salt. 

[Baird of the land]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Really? It's clear he IS a cheat or, allowed it to happen. Has to go, they all do. 

Complete idiotic sentiment imo. Unless he’s banned, we keep the excellent manager we’ve discovered rather than blowing up the whole club in a vitally important year where we need immediate success, not more uncertainty.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Baird of the land said:

Complete idiotic sentiment imo. Unless he’s banned, we keep the excellent manager we’ve discovered rather than blowing up the whole club in a vitally important year where we need immediate success, not more uncertainty.

Let's be fair, the club has been blown up already. This summer will be a mess, and next season isn't going to be stable.

[Fabrice29]

22 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Did Bielsa go after his spying incident? No, he just didn't give a shit.

Tonda should do the same. Use this setback to motivate the team next year and prove the spying had nothing to do with our success.

There is of course one difference between what Bielsa did and what Tonda is seemingly involved in…

[Saint86]

I would keep tonda and spors. This is an almighty fuck up, but parsons is responsible for not having a suitable supervision for league compliance in place and for killing any legal defence the club could mount... Tonda is a 32year foreign manager in his first full season. As for spors, he's done an excellent job on the recruitment front and we cannot afford another DoF and another season and transfer window of upheaval and changing directions.

Next year we lose £15M in parachute payments, the season after that we lose £45M. The club has been punished more than enough - let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Edited 1 hour ago by Saint86

[revolution saint]

Let's see if he gets sanctioned but I'd say if anyone should be carrying the can it should probably be Spors.  Personally I'd be inclined to keep Tonda unless he gets hit with a year ban or something stupid like that.  Ultimately the players seem to like him and he's been our best manager for a while now.  SR have a generally shit record of appointing managers and I don't trust them not to fuck up another appointment.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, Baird of the land said:

Complete idiotic sentiment imo. Unless he’s banned, we keep the excellent manager we’ve discovered rather than blowing up the whole club in a vitally important year where we need immediate success, not more uncertainty.

His ability as a manager is completely irrelevant now. His position would be completely untenable.

Even if by some miracle he escapes a FA ban, there is no way he can still be our manager next season if he was involved in this. None.

[SotonianWill]

He's a f*cking cheat. But by golly do I like him. Emotionless, tactical cheating genius. Hungry eyes will no doubt be banned though.

[CB Fry]

This kind of spying is part of in-week match prep. That's not Spors, that's Tonda.

Spors could plausibly be saying he never even knew it was happening.

Spors would not need to be close to pre-match "prep" just like he doesn't need to be close to the daily training drills or the layout of the cones.

He might end up carrying the can, because he is the sporting director but that's not quite the same. I dont think we'll see Tonda again.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by CB Fry

[Baird of the land]

7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Let's be fair, the club has been blown up already. This summer will be a mess, and next season isn't going to be stable.

There’s a difference between blown up and the nuclear meltdown if you start ripping out key personnel at a key time for starting preparation for next season.

[Patrick Bateman]

5 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

This kind of spying is part of in-week match prep. That's not Spors, that's Tonda.

Spors could plausibly be saying he never even knew it was happening.

Spors would not need to be close to pre-match "prep" just like he doesn't need to be close to the daily training drills or the layout of the cones.

He might end up carrying the can, because he is the sporting director but that's not quite the same. I dont think we'll see Tonda again.

 

Agreed. Sadly, as it's been fun. 

[die Mannyschaft]

Tonda will be gone by tomorrow.  Whoever is next manager can thier methods, movements and assistants be monitored very closely.  Preferably spy on all Saints staff. 

[SNSUN]

Just now, die Mannyschaft said:

Tonda will be gone by tomorrow.  Whoever is next manager can thier methods, movements and assistants be monitored very closely.  Preferably spy on all Saints staff. 

We got promoted with Russ and he didn't need spying. Bring him home!

😇

[die Mannyschaft]

25 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Really? It's clear he IS a cheat or, allowed it to happen. Has to go, they all do. 

Tonda will get 1 year or 2 year coaching ban . 

[Gloucester Saint]

56 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

He’s getting banned ffs let alone sacked. Can’t believe we went down the route of ignorance too. 

Clean break needed.

FA about to investigate Indy are reporting. Hardly surprising with what’s emerged tonight.

[die Mannyschaft]

19 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Let's see if he gets sanctioned but I'd say if anyone should be carrying the can it should probably be Spors.  Personally I'd be inclined to keep Tonda unless he gets hit with a year ban or something stupid like that.  Ultimately the players seem to like him and he's been our best manager for a while now.  SR have a generally shit record of appointing managers and I don't trust them not to fuck up another appointment.

SR shouldn't be running a football club, pizza chain maybe more suitable plenty of profit, markup very high. 

[sfc4prem]

Even if Tonda isn't banned by the FA, the players, despite working hard for him this season, will look at him in a different light. It's a crying fucking shame. Embarrassing. I don't necessarily think we'll sack him, though. 

[Osvaldorama]

Fuck me it’s never dull supporting saints is it.  
 

Reading through all the options. Jesus Christ 😂