Tonda Eckert

[The Wyvern]

1 minute ago, Saints4everChris said:

Anyone who makes a mistake or deliberately does something that costs their employer £200m can expect to be fired. I see no alternative.

One way or another I'm sure he'll be fired and/or banned, but worth remembering we wouldn't even be in a position to be close to a £200m game if it hadn't been for Tonda's impact.  Still, Rusk, Juric, to an extent Martin, couldn't get a tune out of these players. 

[Elmore Saint]

99% probability of NO given the media / social led shitstorm that is todays normality, BUT....

Is there a world where Tonda can take a Damascene route to redemption? 

Perhaps by working alongside a "dressing-room trusted" person whilst on that "journey" - such an overused term these days - and we retain benefit from his obvious ability to coach football players. Netflix would love that story...

[Midfield_General]

11 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Getting pissed off with this cunt. 

Did Saints do him dirty at some point or what.

He lost his gig at the Telegraph so now he's just another social media goon trying to whip up controversy for clicks, because clicks = his revenue stream. 

Used to be a respected broadsheet journalist, now he's just a posh Adrian Durham

Edited 1 hour ago by Midfield_General

[coalman]

5 minutes ago, Elmore Saint said:

99% probability of NO given the media / social led shitstorm that is todays normality, BUT....

Is there a world where Tonda can take a Damascene route to redemption? 

Perhaps by working alongside a "dressing-room trusted" person whilst on that "journey" - such an overused term these days - and we retain benefit from his obvious ability to coach football players. Netflix would love that story...

Even in the vanishingly unlikely even that the FA doesn't ban him, then no. Him staying on as a manager would be too much of a distraction on and off the pitch.

[Football Special]

10 minutes ago, Elmore Saint said:

99% probability of NO given the media / social led shitstorm that is todays normality, BUT....

Is there a world where Tonda can take a Damascene route to redemption? 

Perhaps by working alongside a "dressing-room trusted" person whilst on that "journey" - such an overused term these days - and we retain benefit from his obvious ability to coach football players. Netflix would love that story...

I think I'd keep him just to wind up cunts like Henry Winter 

[cambsaint]

I personally think there is the hint of genius in Tonda Eckert . He was young and inexperienced and needed a mature helper.

However pragmatically Sport Republic imo would be mad to lose his services. I consider the pragmatic answer is to transfer him to one of our other clubs for a year or so in an assistant manager capacity.

In a year or so he can say "mea culpa, I was inexperienced and didn't recognise the gravity of my offence as it was de rigeur in the other leagues I had experience in."

By this time as the saying goes the headlines will not just be today's Chip paper but will have been recycled into Amazon cardboard at least twice.

I see no reason why a mistake made in his formative year as a manager with little or no experience should blight a very promising career.

I think it is extremely sad that such an amazing performance can blind us to his amazing achievement, the two most notable of which the win over Arsenal and the game against Man City would have been impossible to spy upon.

However I am furious at the amateurish nature of the operation-sending a callow youth up with a mobile phone is asking to be caught.

 

[Saint_lambden]

49 minutes ago, Elmore Saint said:

99% probability of NO given the media / social led shitstorm that is todays normality, BUT....

Is there a world where Tonda can take a Damascene route to redemption? 

Perhaps by working alongside a "dressing-room trusted" person whilst on that "journey" - such an overused term these days - and we retain benefit from his obvious ability to coach football players. Netflix would love that story...

Not a chance - he'll be gone imminently. The only question is when - whether it's before or after any FA ban which could make his dismissal more straight forward from a breach of contract/gross misconduct point of view. 

By the sounds of it, there was a growing sense in recent weeks that the success in terms of the unbeaten run was in spite of him and not because of him, which this whole saga just goes to confirm. A core of the players found his man-management style odd to say the least, and that's now three successive permanent managers (Juric, Still and Eckert) who have been emotionless. It's fair to say that the next appointment needs to have a bit of character about them to get the fans and players back on side and - in a way - embrace the siege mentality. 

[revolution saint]

5 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

 

By the sounds of it, there was a growing sense in recent weeks that the success in terms of the unbeaten run was in spite of him and not because of him, which this whole saga just goes to confirm. A core of the players found his man-management style odd to say the least, and that's now three successive permanent managers (Juric, Still and Eckert) who have been emotionless. It's fair to say that the next appointment needs to have a bit of character about them to get the fans and players back on side and - in a way - embrace the siege mentality. 

How do you know this?

[skintsaint]

Surprised he hasn't gone yet to be honest.

[Harry_SFC]

We hate Eckert, Tonda Eckert,

I just don't think you understand.

We didn't win the cup,

he spied and fucked us up,

We hate Tonda Eckert.

[Mr X]

9 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Surprised he hasn't gone yet to be honest.

Probably being sure they can get rid without paying him off and for that they need an FA charge or to determine if it's gross misconduct, probably the minions are working on some other terrible statement to release

[Saint NL]

He'll either leave and never be heard of again, or he'll go on and become a great manager. Not sure which

[Hawkswood]

3 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

If it's arbritrary then why did we break it? Why not send people to spy on Boro three months ago, then we'd get away with it? It's quite straight forward, the closer it is to the date of the game, the more of an advantage you're likely to have it. That's why we did it and that's why there's a rule against it. A large number of rules are arbitrary, that doesn't make them wrong.

Drive at 31mph - you get fined

Want to buy alcohol aged 17 years and 364 days - Nope

I understand that  I haven't said anywhere that I condone what has been done, but for the amount of retribution that has been dished out for something  - that by their rules is still fundamentally allowed -  seems way over the top to me. That was the point I was trying to make and again NOWHERE have I tried to defend what has been carried out.