Message to the FAB if they read this

[Pamplemousse]

As it is the choice of the clubs, the cost for the bubble coaches should be borne from them.

I don't live in Southampton so I have to spend money to travel down and then another £20/30 quid on a coach I don't want and don't need. 

I think it would easy to manage it tbh. Close the same roads off as they normally would and have a sterile area that the police can manage to separate the fans.

Edited 2 hours ago by Pamplemousse

[hypochondriac]

As much as people moan and as much as it is a pain, the bubble actually works and is effective. You can bet if it wasn't in place there would be a lot more disorder. 

[Saint_clark]

2 hours ago, franniesTache said:

And there's core. of the issue, "some fans prefer". Well yes, and some fans don't. But we're not forcing those that do prefer it to go by train, they can still go by coach. The fact is the bubble is draconian, and they don't need to patronisingly remind us "why it's needed", when loads went in 2019 and can quite clearly see it isn't needed.

We're not talking about Alan Knight's testimonial here - which is now almost 35 years ago if you want to feel old - times have changed massively, and it's draconian nonsense to suggest it's needed, especially as the facts in terms of arrests simply don't back it up.

When we ask the FAB to push back that's what we mean, don't just say you disagree push back on the narrative that the fans just need to "be reminded", push back on them driving the narrative, and challenge them on the arrests and stats that show what they're saying is b*llocks.

If you're just accepting their view you're not independent

Apart from anything else if they're going to stick with the bubble, there's absolutely no reason to bring kickoff forward to 12:00 other than to try and limit how much fans can enjoy the time before the game. Why the need to reduce drinking time if there is no chance of fans interacting anyway.

[benjii]

12 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

All a big dick swinging contest

And that's just the women!

[franniesTache]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

As much as people moan and as much as it is a pain, the bubble actually works and is effective. You can bet if it wasn't in place there would be a lot more disorder. 

Can you though?

2019 away at Fratton was a night game without bubble, 7 people were arrested for disorder.

2025 away at Fratton was a Sunday lunch time kick off with the bubble, 8 people were arrested for disorder.

2012 home at st mary's without a bubble, 5 arrests

2026 home at st mary's with a bubble, 4 arrests

The idea that there's significantly more disorder without a bubble is literally just marketing for the police so they can impose it. Also the games without a coach bubble are effectively bubble's these days anyway because you're kettled from the station to the ground and side roads are shut off so there's no contact. Which is no different to shutting roads off for coaches and having outriders (and still a heavy police presence in the cities too).

We are one of only two left in the country that have it, and we're supposed to believe we're that unique? It's utter bollocks, a good pay day for Hampshire old bill on the over time, and if i was being a real cynic it's a good way for both clubs to get additional revenue because away fans are forced to spend money at the grounds because they're trapped there for hours before

Edited 24 minutes ago by franniesTache

[hypochondriac]

14 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Can you though?

2019 away at Fratton was a night game without bubble, 7 people were arrested for disorder.

2025 away at Fratton was a Sunday lunch time kick off with the bubble, 8 people were arrested for disorder.

2012 home at st mary's without a bubble, 5 arrests

2026 home at st mary's with a bubble, 4 arrests

The idea that there's significantly more disorder without a bubble is literally just marketing for the police so they can impose it. Also the games without a coach bubble are effectively bubble's these days anyway because you're kettled from the station to the ground and side roads are shut off so there's no contact. Which is no different to shutting roads off for coaches and having outriders (and still a heavy police presence in the cities too).

We are one of only two left in the country that have it, and we're supposed to believe we're that unique? It's utter bollocks, a good pay day for Hampshire old bill on the over time, and if i was being a real cynic it's a good way for both clubs to get additional revenue because away fans are forced to spend money at the grounds because they're trapped there for hours before

I remember the derby game outside St Marys after the game when people were lobbing coins, using hub caps from the car showroom as frisbees and trying to break through the fencing segregating the teams. I wish people weren't absolute twats but the reality is it stops this kind of idiotic behaviour.